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April 26, 2019 at 8:40 am #291381Cali ChicaParticipant
From this point on, if you trust yourself (title of this thread) to not reconnect with your mother and father, if you trust yourself to not connect with anyone who harms you or is likely to harm you, if you trust yourself to take good care of yourself, to know what is best to do in the future, under various circumstances, then you will feel that you can endure the emotions you are resisting.
You will be able to feel soft toward yourself, your husband… and even toward your mother, which is what happened to me. I resisted feeling any love for my mother, until recently, I felt safe enough to feel that love. I really didn’t want to, but I had to, because it was always there, innate (your word, innate). I felt it but only after I promised myself to never have her in my life again. These very days I am practicing relaxing into emotions that have puzzled me for so long.
Dear Anita,
I trust all of that, every word. I do not know how to begin being soft towards my mother – as I know it is not something I can immediately activate, that the softness will develop over time. I think I need to begin with softness towards myself and husband. Perhaps start there. What do you think?
I do absolutely absolutely know I do not want my parents in my life, and I trust myself and am proud of my ability to only allow good non toxic humans in my personal life. I have been doing a good job at protecting my spirit getting rid of the glitter and fluff, only focusing on the real and true. I am proud of my circle and my place in this world.
i know that I am ready to be a “real adult” and that is having power – power to choose.
I am ready Anita to choose softness, I notice a shift already – my husband has showed softness to me as you know – we are re developing trust. I will work on this…
April 26, 2019 at 9:05 am #291385AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
To feel okay, not frenzied, not distressed, but present in the here-and-now, to feel that soft feeling of love, you have to relax into the feelings you fear. The purpose is not of course to love your mother. You already do. And the purpose of course, is not to reconnect with her. The purpose is to reconnect with your own feelings, to let go of the exhausting task of resisting the emotions that are in you already.
The agitation in resisting, pushing down the emotions, now a habit, that is a very unpleasant experience. Can’t feel okay being agitated.
When you notice an increase or a spike in agitation, purposefully relax, take deep breaths, aim at relaxing into that which you are habitually resisting.
anita
April 29, 2019 at 6:33 am #291677Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Happy Monday. We were on a track of exercises, and focused “work” and guess what threw me off? The phone call my mother made.
I took the rest of the weekend to process it. By saying “took the weekend” I mean I thought about it. I was doing many different things with different people, but it would come to mind. The old Cali Chica may have pushed through to our exercises, and your last question – but I recognized that I was triggered and distracted.
Rightfully so! I mean in the grand scheme of things, an “estranged” if it is the right word, mother reaching out, inappropriately to one of your friends – well that will be triggering.
See Anita, I didn’t give myself this credibility in the past. I allowed things to just “pass through” as you know. When I was out to dinner with my friend on Thursday, the person I was going to meet on the subway – I had sent you a post right before meeting her. I didn’t say to myself oh its fine, don’t worry about it – just have fun. I observed.
This is a friend I actually made on vacation 2 years ago in Europe, and she lives in NYC now, we had 2 years of catching up to do. Well guess what my last 2 years have been…I let her go first. She told me about her ill father, a move to LA and back..some dating ups and downs. Then it was my turn. I started off by telling her the craziness that started after the engagement, and thereafter, and ending to last FEb 13, the day of no contact. I told her the last comment – I should have an abortion with you – and she was apalled, jaw dropped. Like anyone would be. I explained to her that this wasn’t the worst of it. The worst of it was all the abuse that wasn’t blatant, that required one to read between the lines, or do this — process and heal for years. To see through it.
It isn’t difficult to say if a mother speaks such obscenity/insanity that it is wrong. Anyone would say so…but its everything else isn’t it.
Anyway, as you can see this friend and I are quite close – although not seeing each other often or having spoken in a while – and this is what else I see.
i felt my heart open. I felt my heart speak out loud – not just to her, but to myself. I have surrounded myself now Anita with only those people I can feel this way with. Now are there some great friends that don’t have the emotional capacity, background, understanding, etc – to comprehend and respect what I am saying – of course! And that is just fine. It isn’t my MO to announce this all.
So now – back to our conversation. My mother called, good for her. I talked about it, processed it. And do not feel triggered. I feel like while on the mountain path, a lion roared out to the right, so it caught my attention for a moment, but then it quickly ran away. I too moved forward.
I would like to continue our conversation, exercise, whatever it may be – and which suits you – at any time
April 29, 2019 at 7:44 am #291685AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
Excellent report, the recent post. “a ion roared out to the right”- that lion will shrink into a barn cat, still vicious, but to mice, not to a woman, like you!
I am ready to continue, exercise, maybe little Cali Chica wants to talk about that lion roaring, maybe not. You choose, will you?
anita
April 29, 2019 at 8:05 am #291693Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I am glad you enjoyed my report. And this is how it felt. I came, I saw, I conquered – and now reporting back! And now–moving right along.
Young Cali Chica, stream of consciousness:
Yes, I would like to talk about the roaring lion. My dad is often a scary lion – big bulging eyes, roaring, in person, on the phone. Getting in fights if we go to the airport, or on the phone with customer service. He is an angry lion, but also a scared kitty cat.
My mom, she can be a roaring lion too, in fact, she sometimes does this weird scream that sounds like a deep growl of a lion or tiger. She does it to sound scary, kind of like someone making a scary voice – or someone in a movie – making a voice. I guess it does work, but probably on little kids.
these roaring lions, they can be scary, it makes me feel bad if my parents are roaring angry lions to me
April 29, 2019 at 8:12 am #291697AnonymousGuestIf you close your eyes and imagine how you wished your father was to you, what do you see, what do you hear?
anita
April 29, 2019 at 8:29 am #291699Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Closing my eyes and wishing how my father was…well I don’t have to imagine Anita, because so much of the time he is good – and so he is like this:
I think of him taking to me, and he is telling me about his day, and I am telling him about mine. And he tells me very good, and he says it is good that I am enjoying school. He tells me about his patients, and I always ask him what he does at work, what he eats, and everything. It is fun. I don’t spend that much time alone just me and dad though. He goes to work. Most of the time, I am alone withmom, or it is us 3. sometimes it is jsut me and my dad if we have to drive somewhere, and it is peaceful mostly
April 29, 2019 at 8:38 am #291701AnonymousGuestClose your eyes, little Cali Chica, and tell me how you wish your mother was with you, what would she sound like, her voice, what would she say, how does her face looks like when she looks at you?
anita
April 29, 2019 at 8:43 am #291703Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Close your eyes, little Cali Chica, and tell me how you wish your mother was with you, what would she sound like, her voice, what would she say, how does her face looks like when she looks at you?
She is calm and kind. she has a nice soothing voice, and she sings sometimes, or hums. she makes me feel better, she hums me to feel better so I feel calmer. her face is smiling, or neutral, it isnt tense, her mouth is not twisted. she is kind and soft and plump. kind of like a sweet pillow. sometimes I can sit in her lap and just look at her face and it makes me feel better – because it is soft and kind. her voice is high like a fairy, like a sweet chirpy woman. but sometimes her voice is also quiet like a whisper, if it is time to go to sleep. she knows to change her voice depending on what is going on – with me. she says that I am a good girl, and that everything will be okay. that everything will be okay.
April 29, 2019 at 8:54 am #291705AnonymousGuestAnd when she is not calm, when her voice is this weird scream and her mouth twisted, when she is hard, not like a pillow, when she says words that hurt, what is little Cali Chica doing, is she running away, does she want to run away?
anita
April 29, 2019 at 9:05 am #291707Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
when she is like that – i want to hide, and go to my room, or cry. i guess I cry a lot. or i want to scream back and be angry! and tell my mom she is WRONG because sometimes she makes up stuff.
sometimes i want to go and read my book or write something
April 29, 2019 at 9:12 am #291709AnonymousGuestWhen you hide, does she go after you or does she leave you alone in your room?
anita
May 1, 2019 at 12:12 am #291947Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
i just saw your reply- perhaps didn’t translate to email notification. Back to it…
when I hide, or go to my room, or cry somewhere she doesn’t come after me at first. No. She is angry talking out loud to herself. Exclaiming things – why did she come to this country! Why did she have children – to be treated like this! Sometimes she will even angrily vent to my dad on the phone if he is at work.
But often after this time she may come into my room or wherever I am. Crying. Sobbing. She may say something like, “I have no one” or that if I treat her like this “what will she do.”
Or she may come in and say something like – so do you feel bad yet?! Speaking to your mother this way!!! How dare you! We would never have such disrespect for our parents. And then she may go on to tell me I have a “bad tongue” and that it’s going to cause me a lot of problems in life
May 1, 2019 at 12:21 am #291949Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I watched an incredible movie this weekend, it is about a Pakistani girl who is raised in Norway, and suffers a man’s emotional abuse her parents. The story is quite extreme and the fact that she gets kidnapped and said to Pakistan against her well because she is found sneaking around with a boy. When in Pakistan she finds herself in trouble again, and is returned back to the west. We are when she arrives they have arranged a marriage for her so that they can control her behavior more and just get her married off. I couldn’t relate to the actions per se, but the dialogue, the emotion, the unspoken aspects of the movie were incredible. I took away a lot from the movie, much more than I would have perhaps six months to a year ago. Much of the dialogue focused on the fact that the father made it a point to make her realize that her actions were making them look bad in society. The constant phrase of “what will people think“ was used as a way to guilt trip this girl. I thought about how unlike the protagonist in the movie, this did work on me. In fact, I didn’t see this as Ludacris or try to rebel against it, instead I internalized it and thought to myself, how sad and true. I thought to myself oh my gosh they are right. But it didn’t sit well with me, internally I knew something was off, it just had not come to surface. This shows me how deep my dissociation has been for a long time, perhaps that’s not the right word per se, but the concept of on the surface truly trying to appease my parents and hiding any intuition of what I mean actually feel. At one point the mother states, if she gets married to a great guy it will increase their place in society, or if she has a good education. The older brother agrees, he is entirely brainwashed, he wants to study to be a doctor just so that his parents role in the world could be better. Such a blind faith, such devotion it seems. But as I see it now, the entire point of the children’s life is to appease their parents, and take away their hurt, take away their anxieties, take away their insecurities. I read some reviews about this film after, wanting to see what other people thought. It was noted somewhere that when immigrants move to the west, they raise up the culture of the Western world, Europe or the United States. The entire movie talked about how the parents made comments like if their kids were raised in the motherland they would not be acting like this, they would not be suffering. Suffering comes with this immigration as kids no longer listen and respect their parents. Just like my mother. And so because of their anger of immigrating, and feeling like the kid should be indebted to them for yet another reason, They inflict even more control. This is not just the simple: look I moved here to find you a better life situation. This is the: look how sad and miserable we are, how could you not do everything in your power to make us happier.
Interestingly, the protagonist gets her self involved in some what may seem racy actions. I did not, but the results were not that different. It reminds me how, with parents like these it doesn’t matter what you do. And innocent bystander may watch this movie and think, if this girl simply behaved her parents will be happy. But I know better, I see the brewing anger and the father’s face, our years of pent-up emotion, ready to be projected on to anyone and anything. I used to believe otherwise Anita I did believe that if I didn’t go up and swap meet my parents happy, all with the with the well and calm. That is why over those two years, I tried constantly to appease my mother, at the risk of consistently abusing my husband. The more my mother would torture me the more I would torture urr my husband, in a way it was kind of like what you are saying. See mother I’m not just sitting here and not listening to you, look at what I am doing to my husband, I’m torturing to the point that he will acquiesce with you. See look at my hard work
May 1, 2019 at 12:33 pm #292017AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
In my response, I will combine quotes from your first and second posts of today:
“trying to appease my parents… take away their hurt, take away their anxieties, take away their insecurities”-
-we, mistreated children, want to appease, or help our abusive parent, to take away her hurt- but she has already helped herself to us a long time ago, and time and time again.
As teenagers and adults, we want to give her our resources so to help her, but she has already helped herself to our resources long ago, when we were too young, by “talking out loud to herself.. why did she come to this country! Why did she have children- to be treated like this! Sometimes she will even vent to my dad on the phone if he is at work.. ‘I have no one’… so do you feel bad yet?! Speaking to your mother this way!!! How dare you! … And then she may go on and on to tell me I have a ‘bad tongue’..”-
– the most precious resource she helped herself to all along was our love for her, the fact we cared so much for her.
We want to help her but she already helped herself to us, to the love in us, she took that away from us and what she didn’t take…that bit of love we hardly ever feel, a … missing love, is all we have left so to help ourselves.
All the love we had for her, she took it away and didn’t give it back.
anita
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