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April 9, 2019 at 9:38 am #288281Cali ChicaParticipant
Dear Anita,
NO she did not hold me and comfort me! I think she pretty much talked to me and my dad at the same time! like GOD what is all this commotion at dinner time! That she can’t take it. And then to my dad, she was mad that he made me cry and I did not eat
April 9, 2019 at 9:44 am #288283AnonymousGuestwere you mad at your dad too, like your mom was mad at him?
anita
April 9, 2019 at 10:16 am #288299Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
No i was just sad. I was not mad. Just sad.
April 9, 2019 at 10:39 am #288315AnonymousGuestYoung CC is all alone, at that dinner table. Her father is there and so is her mother, but she is still alone and so very sad. What is she thinking, this sad little girl with beautiful eyes?
anita
April 9, 2019 at 10:53 am #288321Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I am thinking how I am so sad, and how I feel confused how somehow I always get sad. that somehow someone is always sad, or yelling, mom or dad. maybe i don’t know who is more mad, mom or dad. i guess it depends
i also feel tired, sometimes when I cry a lot I get tired
April 9, 2019 at 11:00 am #288323AnonymousGuestIt is so sad and you want it to get better, you have hope, that it all gets better, that it is not sad anymore, no longer sad, no one sad, no yelling.. how is CC going to make it happen, make sadness go away?
anita
April 9, 2019 at 12:00 pm #288343Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I think for me it is just sad, the sad comes and goes because things happen. Sometimes I act bad, sometimes my mom is sad, sometimes my dad is mad. I don’t think I can do anything, I think it is just like this. Maybe it is like that, some people are not sad, but some people are sad. I think that is just the way it is.
I typed up this response above, I thought about its implication, I know I should probably not be analyzing my own Response so quickly, but I can’t help but to write this here. The above flowed naturally. And I see – I see that from a young age I felt (that things were just this way) that it is how it is and it’s not CONTROLLABLE. The woe is me tragedy of this family, not the – oh things happen and people go through ups and downs. Never. I never recall feeling it will get better tomorrow, or that this is not an indication of the state of us/our lives. If there is anger today it means things are terrible – it is a fact. No transience of the feeling was taught. Just upheaval tragedy permanence uncontrollability.
April 9, 2019 at 12:54 pm #288349AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
I think we can pause the exercise at any time and do some analysis, being flexible this way.
I was thinking about the dinner table, how your father was angry at you, and your mother’s response was not to comfort you but to use the opportunity to blame him and in so doing, to cement her position as victim. Once again, it was all about her and the young CC was left alone. So very alone.
“I don’t think I can do anything”, you wrote, to change the situation. “I see that from a young age I felt..that it is how it is and it’s not CONTROLLABLE”. I am inclined to think that in between those moments of heavy despair, you did try to change the situation. Maybe you forgot your efforts of so long ago, and what you remembered today is the despair.
A child cannot endure such despair for long, if she can’t do anything she dreams that she can, she makes believe, she daydreams. Do you remember daydreaming then, as a child, and what you daydreamed about?
anita
April 9, 2019 at 12:59 pm #288351Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
Yes very interesting how you point out that my mothers goal was not to comfort me, but instead cement her position as a victim. Well said.
Great question, in fact I never recall daydreaming as a child, or daydreaming ever. I have thought about this for sometime now, and I believe it has something to do with burn out, my neurons were so zapped and burnt out so to speak- that this imaginative quality has not been present. But as a child – it must have been. But I do not recall any such memory.
April 9, 2019 at 1:09 pm #288355AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
I would very much like to figure out how the young Cali Chica survived being so alone. I am at the point in the day that I am no longer focused and about to take a break until tomorrow morning. I will be taking my walk soon and during my walk I will be thinking about the young CC at the dinner table, in that home, alone. I know what she did later, rushing to make friends, to socialize, and she worked so hard, SCC.
But what did she do early on. Maybe I am not making much sense right now, I hope I am. In any case, I will be back to the computer about 9 am tomorrow morning. I hope you rest some today, I am closing this post with a smile.
anita
April 10, 2019 at 6:09 am #288437Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
I too, would very much like to figure out what was going through the young Cali Chica’s mind, when – you are RIGHT – she was all alone.
Seemingly not alone, as she was engulfed by the emotions of her mother – up an down, in and out, depending on the day.
It was a delusion that she was not alone, because her omnipresent mother engulfed her, swallowed her whole -didn’t she?
It is a mystery what she did early on, the time from then until she became SCC, taking over the world, with her cape – out there rescuing her mother.
This exercise is incredible, and slowly we will learn more about that young CC
April 10, 2019 at 6:27 am #288441AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
“Seemingly not alone, as she was engulfed by the emotions of her mother… her omnipresent mother engulfed her”-
I asked the young you at the dinner table: It is so sad and you want it to get better.. how is CC going to make it happen, make sadness go away?
I will ask the adult you today: how did your mother try to make the sadness go away, or did she?
anita
April 10, 2019 at 6:39 am #288443Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
My mother tried desperately to make the sadness to go away, today my mind is quite clear and focused, so I will organize my thoughts as such, she did the following:
- distracted, in the years after CC was a child, mother turned into level 2, the angry rage, revengeful, spiteful phase.
- during this time she would distract. hastily sign up for a yoga pass, not for a day or week, but for months, only to come home and say ‘oh its not for me, or oh its beginner and I’m more advanced, etc, excuses” and not be able to commit or follow through. she would go on vacation after vacation, running chasing, she would make random friends and try to go on trips with them, seeking, finding a way – as “she suffered her whole life, it is her right now to enjoy!!”
- projecting
- she projected her sadness onto us, (me) and so I could “carry it for her.” Here she would say – take my sadness, it is too much of a burden for me to bear. she would be proud in how much her daughters felt for her, see – who else is there for me, look how much they feel for their poor mother. never ever once thinking, perhaps i should protect my daughters from sadness, and not pass it along.
- she would attempt to “reason” and “bargain” with herself
- she would convince herself her life isn’t so bad after all. “see look at how much we have, why would we ever be sad!” we are foolish to be sad – people don’t even have one of these things. see how lucky I am. look at my husband, he is so supportive and he is my best friend. everywhere I want to go – he goes with me. everyday on the way to work he calls me for the whole commute. who would do that? most of these women, their husbands don’t even talk to them! they all sleep in separate rooms
April 10, 2019 at 6:56 am #288447AnonymousGuestDear Cali Chica:
“she would be proud in how much (you) felt for her… look how much they feel for their poor mother”- how did she know how much you felt for her, what did she see in your face or your behavior, what did she hear you say that made her believe that you felt for her?
anita
April 10, 2019 at 7:22 am #288451Cali ChicaParticipantDear Anita,
how did she know how much you felt for her, what did she see in your face or your behavior, what did she hear you say that made her believe that you felt for her?
- She saw me cry, a true feeling of empathy for her, she saw me shed tears, and my heart ache.
- she saw me get angry, “screw those people who are treating us bad!”
- she saw me stand up for her, many times I would tell my father, what he said or did was wrong, to side with her mother, I saw only her suffering in the beginning years of my life, especially when my mother was the sad victim, and prior to her revengeful state
- distracted, in the years after CC was a child, mother turned into level 2, the angry rage, revengeful, spiteful phase.
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