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  • #285603
    Cali Chica
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    Dear Anita,

    I like the flexibility aspect of your post.  Very true.  Depending on how we are feeling, and level of distress we can make decisions.

    I cancelled social plans this weekend as I need to rest and attend to some errands.  This was a good plan.  The old Cali Chica would have “handled” it all.  But why? And for what reason? None.

    A point I want to add is that of habit.  The idea that caffeine is needed to function, is common in our society.  There are days I wake up where I don’t necessarily “need” coffee but would go for the cup out of habit.  Perhaps later that day I felt more wound up from this caffeine, perhaps my muscles more tense.  Perhaps no, and I would have felt that way anyway. Regardless, being aware of any habits of ours – is important.  Important on the healing path.  We are always evaluating and re-evaluating what works and doesn’t – aren’t we.

    To me, my yoga practice has been immensely helpful.  Since moving here, back to NYC, I have committed to a regular yoga practice.  It has helped me in so many ways, head to toe, mind and body.  I am really enjoying it, and look forward to continuing this practice – and seeing even more benefits.  If I notice positive effects in 2-3 months, imagine a year!

    I also find that this has become an important part of my day – or however often I go.  I look forward to it, and for the most part, I try not to exchange it for another activity – such as a hangout with a friend.  I try my best to preserve it.

    In fact, when we talked about the No Attack conversation, that day I came home after yoga and attacked my husband.  I look back and see the story clearer now.  IT was not, of course the yoga practice, that put me on edge.  No.  It was cramming too much into my day.  Making me angry, angry at myself and the situation, and then rushing back physically and figuratively – and then bam – roar.  There goes the attack.

    It doesn’t matter if I was doing yoga or karate, or nothing.  It was my state of mind.  Therefore, yoga, and talking here has taught me – that the frenzy causes distress.  It is not even necessarily the activities or the people I am around, but the frenzied state.  If I rushed to and from yoga daily, and rushed through the practice without breathing – would I be relaxed? Would it help my mental state? No.

    But if I see it as not just an hour of exercise, but the reminder to unwind, to protect this time, and that before and after/to and fro – then it is an entirely different experience.

    #285621
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    I like how you ask questions and answer them, it is your style of communicating and I like it. You are making a good point about coffee, the habit and the societal message that it is needed to function. One well functioning person who does not consume any caffeine is proof that this message is not true. I suppose once addicted to caffeine, it is.. needed so to function.

    Good choice, to cancel your weekend social plans. I like yoga too. I have a mat in the sun room where I am sitting every day posting here. But the child pose hurt since I had my foot injury, bending the foot that way. I will try it again, maybe it will not hurt next time I try.

    That “frenzied state”, the rushing, it costs people their lives every day, rushing on the roads while driving, for one. People get injured rushing, not paying attention. People hurt themselves and others while rushing. There is an old saying, “rushing is from the devil”.

    anita

    #285625
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    I did not know this old saying, but I like it.  It is true. There is no good that comes from rushing.

    my dad used to say an old saying, in our Indian language – that roughly translates into “haste makes waste”

    I realize I did not respect this “teaching” given that it was from him.  Interesting isn’t it.  I see that now I do respect the concept of “haste makes waste” because I have now learned it for myself, through my own experience.  Haste makes anxiety, and suffering.  Haste often may not seem to make waste, seems to make productivity and bonus – but over time it makes waste in that it creates the frenzied state.  The state that you highlighted above, that creates suffering in so many forms.

     

    #285653
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Ironically, the room I am in, with 3 ladies, a topic about rushing was brought up. They were talking about different parenting styles, culturally.

    I thought about this for a moment.  I have a dog, not a real human child.  But regardless.  The idea of walking from point A to point B.  With the destination in mind, point B.  The idea of quickly walking to point B, dog in hand quick strides. Child in stroller quickly walking.

    Or, leisurely strolling.  Letting the dog explore along the way, stopping to sniff the different smells. Stopping as a child pets a dog a block away.  Etc.  This route of course takes longer, it is in fact the “leisurely route.”

    The conversation is about having patience for your children, allowing them to explore.  Not scolding – in this article they read -but taking the time to explain.  Quite interesting the conversation.

    To me, I bring this up to you because of the above.  It takes more time to go leisurely from point A to point B.  But often, we can make that time.  By removing other activities and the frenzied state.  This benefits us, the dog, and the child – whatever scenario.  Exploring, living.

    The conversation then went on to the different teaching patterns these women had with their children.  The “innate” way seemed to be quickly scolding. “don’t do this.” “stop doing that.”

    However, the article these women had read said not to do this. But instead, explain.  It stated that anger is a wasted emotion.

    And that instead explain and let others – children- understand why what they do is hurtful or wrong.

    Interesting.

    It reminds me of how much patience is required to be our best selves, to explain, totake the time.

    How I could have chosen to not attack that day after yoga, and how that would have taken time, patience, harnessing kind energy – not simply reacting and snapping.

    This is not unlike the parenting conversation, what parents have to do to be patient parents, what adults have to do to be patient adults, what humans have to do to be patient humans.

    How taking the leisurely route from A to B isn’t just about leisure at all, it is about allowing patience.

    #285659
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    “anger is a wasted emotion”- well, it is an emotion that we can’t eliminate, impossible to do.

    And we can’t eliminate the instant, automatic reactions to the feeling of anger: our voices go up just a bit, the tone a bit severe, our facial muscles tightening and the expression on our faces somewhat angry.

    Thing is to notice these and be okay with them because … well, they are natural. But once we notice, in most circumstance, contain these reactions, don’t escalate them: lower the voice, soften its severity, relax the face and body, choose the words being said. Do this with children and with everyone else.

    After all, the child herself (or himself)needs to know that it is okay when she feels angry and when her voice gets a bit louder and more severe and that her muscles tighten, that she is not a bad little person for feeling and automatically reacting in these natural ways.

    And then, the child needs to learn by example and instruction, to notice and contain these reactions according to context, to never escalate these reaction to abuse of another.

    anita

    #285669
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    So excellent.  In fact a page in a parenting book – better than that!

    In order to be the best partner/parent/ etc we can be, we must first understand ourselves, and be gentle with our own selves.  Right?

    Thank you for bringing up the fact that we can’t eliminate this, nor is it wrong.  It is natural to feel these emotions – but what we do with them is the key factor.

    #285673
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Cali Chica, and thank you for the compliment!

    anita

    #286173
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Happy Monday.  I hope you had a pleasant weekend.  It was more spring like here, and I enjoyed the weather.

    What has come to mind this weekend, especially yesterday are the concepts of: The Disney World (TDW) and the concept that you so aptly described as:

    what’s here is not good, what’s good is over there

    now that what is over there is here – it is no longer good, what is good is over there.

    I notice that I feel I have “plateaud” with my learning of this.  If that makes sense.  I feel as though there is the next step in the journey in regards to these concepts.  Where i obtain a deeper level of appreciating what’s here, and focus less on what’s there.  By not “over-appreciating/over-emphasizing” what’s over there (which often times is not even over there) but also – by not always being so observant.

    What I mean by this, as that I know the concept of being content in your own world, and say you’re on a walkm you’re not constantly seeing “oh look what she’s wearing that’s nice, oh look at that family how happy, oh their food looks really good..”

    All of these observations are benign enough, but overall – as time goes on (and I have noticed) you end that walk perhaps not even realizing where you walked to and if you enjoyed it, instead full of a flurry of outward observations.  This happened to me yesterday as we had a beautiful walk in NYC on a spring sunday.

    This thing – that I describe, is what I intend to work on.

    #286175
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    It is Spring here too, wearing sandals at times, sun is bright, but we lit the fire in the woodstove for just a bit last night.

    Regarding your walk yesterday, I need to understand better: you observed, “oh look what she’s wearing  that’s nice” with positive appreciation or with bitterness, such as in thinking, oh look what she’s wearing, she looks nice than me..?, or just as a mind chatter, taking notes in a compulsive way?

    And “oh look at that family how happy” – did you think it with positive appreciation, sadness/bitterness or was it compulsive/habitual mind chatter?

    anita

    #286181
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Wow that sounds like a nice spring, it isn’t quite that warm here just yet- but soon – I hope!

    I apologize as I did not explain my scenario in detail, I did feel that I wanted to get the general concept out first, and then backtrack to details.  In a way understanding the overall situation of what I do, and then dissect.

    To answer your question it is EXACTLY mind chatter taking notes in a compulsive way.  Also of course it does sometimes include opinions, “oh what a nice dress” “oh weird hair” – but that isn’t quite as problematic as the first “over observation” Does that make sense? so I would say it is both, but my primary issue is the first and foremost compulsive observation, like being unable to turn that off.  this came up because my husband brought it up.  And we were talking about how now I am aware of it, but it continues, and that it takes away from our OWN relaxed experience.  As I don’t just have the mind chatter, I speak about it out loud.  Some of which can be within normal – “oh look at the sweet baby,” But as my first post referenced, it is excessive.  Constant mind chatter, constant observation.  And also with it does come anecdotes, “oh look at that picnic, maybe we should do that next weekend..” and in my head — why didn’t we do that today, should we have?

    compulsive/habitual mind chatter, but with also a component of anecdotes

    #286183
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    To add, I will look at last Friday.  We were out to dinner with 2 other couple, close friends of mine, and now ours.  A great time.

    My husband and I spoke about this yesterday (same conversation as that including our walk). The concept that I “over-emphasize” and over appreciate what others do/are doing/are.  AT the dinner I made it a huge point that my friends were moving to Florida and they got great jobs.  I went on and on about it.  To the friends it probably seemed normal, Cali Chica being nice and supportive.  I went on and on about it on the way home too to my husband, emphasizing how great it is for them…and looking back it was “compulsive/obsessive”

    See Anita, if it was my husband and I who were making this move (which ironically we just made a move) I would by no means be as “appreciative/amazed/happy” about it.

    Second, and most importantly, my husband stated how this has always been so hard for him, and now become a sore spot – because it is as though no matter what I will appreciate that of others, and undermine all that he does for me.  All the love and support.  I forgot how he said it exactly but something along the lines of.  They can have 1% but you give it 1000% appreciation and amazement, but i do 1000x that, and I get 1% appreciation/acknowledgement.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by Cali Chica.
    #286195
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    It is the same-old-same-old activation of the TDW neuropathways.

    I was thinking about it for a moment, it is about viewing others as superior to you, superior to you-and-your-husband. Similar to your mother viewing other families in Disney World as superior to her-and-her-small family.

    So when you glorify others, like the couple moving to Florida, you are sort of… worshipping them, worshipping their greatness, like an inferior worshipping a superior.

    You value others in comparison to you and yours, just like your mother did. And your husband cannot get himself out of that inferior lock he is in, in comparison to others… and the others are always there.

    That inferior position of viewing others… what do you think about it?

    anita

    #286197
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    exactly. exactly.

     it is about viewing others as superior to you, superior to you-and-your-husband

    your husband cannot get himself out of that inferior lock he is in

    It sounds like even the “compulsive note taking” and “over observation” falls under this.  It does.

    hmm..where to go from here?

    to add: (edited after submitted)

    my mother spent a great deal of energy and grief “hating” this about her self.  “wishing” she was someone who could focus on “you and yours” but instead couldn’t. but she would wax and wane between feeling she had nothing to appreciate and so of course worshipped others – to the other extreme of “oh I have so much, but look we spend our time on other people, how wasteful” of course never having true awareness or the depth of this “dysfunction”

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by Cali Chica.
    #286205
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    Do you remember as a child thinking and wanting to be one in those other families, wishing you were there, in this or that other superior family, not in your inferior family?

    anita

    #286207
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Yes, I do.  As I have mentioned before, I do not have that many vivid memories from childhood (or the thoughts from childhood). But I can say I remember a vague sense of this.

    For example, my mother and I – our family, we would go visit someone (my cousin) who was  living in a lower-middle class apartment complex, kids outside, people walking around, perhaps more urban.  She would say “what’s the point of living in a nice big house like ours and be lonely, it is so much better to be here – around people.” So I would manifest this.  As I played outside with my cousins, and all her friends (as there were so many apartments and so many children) I wouldn’t want to leave.  I thought “this was happiness” and going back to my lonely big house was sad.

    So yes, that is one example.  I can think of others.

    Therefore, I do remember as a child thinking I wanted to be in the superior scenarios (and mine were inferior).

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