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    Anonymous
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    Hi Orion82!

    I’m glad to hear that your efforts at a non-traditional lifestyle and building your own business are paying off!

    There is a lot of pressure in this world to behave in certain ways and do certain things. Some people feel threatened or jealous of others breaking the mould. Some people just believe that any attempt to do so will fail and seek to prevent suffering. It sounds like people have said and done things that hurt you during your journey to create your ideal lifestyle. Do you want to talk about it?

    I’m curious to hear about your experience of building your non traditional lifestyle. Outside of the issues with people, was it difficult? Were there any other issues?

    I wonder if all in all trying to build this lifestyle has been a struggle (including dealing with people)? Sometimes when we have struggled for a long time our bodies and minds can get stuck in that mode even when things are getting easier.

    Are things getting easier for you in your life now that business is picking up? Are you resting and taking enough time to take care of yourself? I hear that running your own business can be demanding?

    Especially when you are feeling the difficulties of the past, I think it’s important to take extra care of yourself and try to build some good memories in the present.

    Proving other people wrong might have been good motivation in the past, but it sounds like you’re achieving all of the things that you wanted to. Now what was once motivation is no longer serving you and bringing unhappiness. My therapist used to say that it’s okay for the need for a coping mechanism to pass. It’s important to reflect on how it did help in the past whilst recognising when it is no longer useful.

    Habits take time to change. Please be patient with yourself. It’s okay to feel what you’re feeling.

    Eager to hear your thoughts.

    Wishing you all the best ! 🙏

    #420996
    Peter
    Participant

    Have you noticed how many different understandings of Plato’s Allegory of the cave there are? How the explanations almost always reinforce the argument the person is presenting and in that way, proving Plato’s point.

    And Here I am about to do the same. 🙂

    It seems to me that one of the points Plato was making is that ‘we see the world as we are not as it is’
 (That how we see the world is constructed, most of it though language where the common error is to mistake the map (our constructs our words) for the territory.) Thus, the task to “know thy self”, if only to see the world more clearly as It is.

    Anyone engaged in the task soon discovers that Plato’s Cave is a nesting doll of caves within caves within caves.  In my opinion such a quest of self-discovery, when honestly perused, can only lead towards humility and compassion.

    What then of Karma, Is Karma the same as justice, reward and punishment, the cosmic Santa Clause? Everything I’ve read on the subject says No. That is its great misunderstanding. Karma is impersonal… Karma is as it is, a reality of life as it is.  Action, cause and effect. The something, if we take up the task, we can influence and so change how we experience/see Life as It is.

    If I kick a large rock and break my toe is that, Karma? Yes, but not because kicking a rock is morally wrong and so I must be punished for my actions but because breaking my toe is a natural result of kicking a rock.  Should I blame the rock? Is rock karma to be punished for breaking my toe? Is  my desire for the rock to be punished bad karma?

    In the task to “know myself” I might, after kicking the rock and limping away, better ask myself why I kicked the rock and to focus on my own karma (actions) and avoid projections. (Note in the allegory of the cave it’s the projections (our shadows) that are the illusions.)

    Karma has nothing to do with our notion of Justice. (Our notion of Justice is a construct, too much of which has come about based on our projections.)

    In Christianity it is acknowledged (though forgotten even as we say the words) that as we forgive, we will be forgiven. In other words, karma, who we are, how we are and our actions as we engage with Life matters. Like karma, the focus is not on or about the other but on our own being and it it this that will define our experience. (I might argue that it is this truth that makes each of us co-creators, bigger then big
which is both terrifying and wondrous.)

    Sadhgure book ‘Karma’ is worth a read.

    #421117
    A
    Participant

    I’m new here (first post), and Plato’s Allegory fascinates me.

    Is it possible that you can be satisfied in yourself, without karma, revenge, or financial success?

    There’s a lot of freedom in letting go.

    #427091
    Tommy
    Participant

    You allude to how others have harmed you but there are no details. Hiding the truth of the situation. When a woman does see work, she knows it is wrong. She won’t show it to her parents. She knows and she hides it. As you know what was done and you hide it. Platos cave?

    You want freedom from this obstruction? You find forgiveness. Yes, forgive. Forgive them and yourself. This doesn’t mean to just let it go. You have find the ability in yourself to forgive. Then, pain, anger, thoughts, memories will lessen. Moving forward will happen.

    Why does your success mean revenge? Is that your mean you become better than others? Is that the scale upon which you judge your life?

    Freedom and happiness comes from compassion and wisdom. I hope you find yours.

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