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August 2, 2016 at 5:00 pm #111356XenopusTexParticipant
Have a lunch date tomorrow with a gal I know. She is college educated, in the earlier part of her mid-twenties. Only downside is that she has a small child from a previous relationship, and so not that big on kids (probably due to my upbringing). She is attractive , and absolutely lights up when she sees me. I mean her reaction to seeing me is like how I felt inside when I saw the last gal. Ran into her again at a restaurant today and she went out of her way to save, say hi, etc. she was enthusiastic about meeting tomorrow.
Would say that there is probably a 15 year age difference. Feels a bit like robbing the cradle.
Is nice to have a woman happy to see me.
August 2, 2016 at 5:28 pm #111359AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
A woman who lights up when she sees you, went out of her way to greet you, enthusiastic about meeting you? I like that very much. And I can understand you liking it.
About the age difference… well, she lights up when she sees you, enthusiastic about meeting you, the latter matters way more than the former.
Relax with her, welcome her enthusiasm, let it in, soak it in. Smile back at her- not a fake kind of smile, but your kind of smile. Be authentic. Allow yourself to act a bit awkward (Many women find it charming, the awkward, shy, geeky kind, really!)
And please post about it, will you? I am excited for you.
anita
* P.S. Way too early to worry about her having a child, way… too early. Not an issue at this point, I say.
August 2, 2016 at 6:13 pm #111367XenopusTexParticipantThe more I think about this woman, the more I smile inside about her. Just might be better than what I thought I had with the previous woman. I believe that this woman is single at the moment, as she just referenced living with just her daughter.
She is actually cuter than the previous one. In many respects, she is beautiful. Not my “ideal,” but seems to have good physical attributes, just wish that she was taller.
I know that she is college educated, because I know her very remotely from work.
My previous interest claimed that she was was glass-half full. I thought that maybe her moodiness was caused by stress, or PMS when I noticed her icy-cold approach and a couple of days later observed behaviors that led me to believe she was having her period, or something else.
i am a bit concerned that I saw the previous woman be anxious to go to lunch with me, including waiting outside of the courtroom for me to get done. Of course, I had to seek her out to initially get that date.
Not used to having a woman somewhat pursue me. She came up to my table the first time and sat down and couldn’t seem to stop looking at me.
Not used to having a woman so interested. But damn, I feel good when I am with her. Like I said, the smile of a woman gives me a feeling of wellbeing and completeness that I have not found elsewhere.
Anxious and nervous about tomorrow. Apart from being shorter than ideal and having a child, she fits most of what I am looking for.
I think that I will take off the body armour for that date. I think I will trust her. I don’t know why, I want to trust her. I will approach it from an optimistic point. I will give it a shot at being approachable and being positive.
Always thought that it was the men who wound up having to pursue women. Thoughts on what I should take away from her interests? I think I can take away that she is at least interested in me as a person. She doesn’t know of my financial resources. I am not that great looking, so she probably isn’t interested in me for my looks. Perhaps she is interested in me for me?
August 2, 2016 at 6:31 pm #111370AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
First, relax best you can. This is only a first date. The purpose should be to get to know each other, for each one of you to learn who the other is. In your case, at least, it is also an opportunity for you to learn about yourself. If I was you I would focus on this date being a learning opportunity. The goal is to have another date and then another, so take it easy. You don’t have to learn a whole lot on that one date.
What about you interests her? Could be your looks: like I wrote before, some women like the geeky type. It could be your profession- dating a prosecutor would have been an attractive prospect for me when I was single, that’s for sure. It can be that your serious face, the tough exterior attracts her… I don’t know. This is something you can learn, maybe on the first date and maybe later.
Please be calm, be authentic. Since you don’t know what it is that attracts her, don’t make assumptions and don’t try to exaggerate any aspect about you that you think may be the attraction for her.
Don’t let her height discourage you or the fact that she has a daughter. It is too early to worry about the latter, it is only a first date. And the height, well… it may not be a big deal. You’ll figure it out later as you get to know her better.
As I wrote before, some women find it attractive if a man is anxious or shy and so forth. This is the thing- you may assume a woman will be attracted to a man who acts very confidently, but this is not true.
Post more if you need more of my input before the date. I do want it to work for you and I believe it is likely to be a good experience. Keep an open mind. When you get anxious, switch to curious. Anxious-> curious. That’s what I do. Look forward to the learning experience. Guard your expectations- be cautiously optimistic.
anita
August 3, 2016 at 11:03 am #111436XenopusTexParticipantBah, had som confusion as to time, but she stayed to meet. Seemed really natural, she was laughing, etc. she is so older than I thought, probably early to mid thirties, and just looks so younger. She has an advanced degree too. She was showing me pictures of her daughter.
Despite her not being “ideal” so-to-speak, I like her. I don’t feel that same level of being “smitten” as I did with the previous woman, but I like her. Perhaps it’s the oddness of her being so interested.
A bit concerned as she is starting the process of getting a divorce from her prior husband. They have been separated for some months. Of course, people do make mistakes, but I don’t want to be a rebound. The unlike the last woman, she likes being here.
Next step is to set up another lunch date.
August 3, 2016 at 11:44 am #111442AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
The way I understand you and the situation is that you are already invested, and have been invested for all your adult life, in NOT being in an intimate relationship with another person. The purpose of this investment is not to be hurt, not to be vulnerable to another and so, not to give another the opportunity to hurt you.
So you are already invested in this very potential relationship, with this woman, in rejecting it: she is too short. She has a daughter. She is not ideal. She is in the process of getting a divorce (but separated).
Sure the latter is not ideal and the former is neither, at this point. But nothing is ideal. We don’t live in an ideal world.
You are invested in destroying this potential relationship while it is still in its infancy. You are gathering evidence, in the process of… prosecuting this potential relationship, declaring it a no-go.
I am just saying, this is what I believe is going on. Part of you want a relationship with a woman, a SO. Part of you does not. Pay attention to the latter as you proceed with the former.
anita
August 3, 2016 at 6:56 pm #111464XenopusTexParticipantThe more I think about it, the more I wonder. She wanted my number to get in contact with me. I gave her mine, but did not ask for hers, indicating that I would get it from her when she texted. Haven’t heard anything :/. Maybe I made a mistake by not asking for it, but the last woman got really touchy about that.
She asked about kids and I said they were okay. Hope I didn’t screw anything to up. Let her talk a lot about her history, etc. she apologized for going on about it so much, told her it was fine.
The last time I saw a woman light up like that to see me was back in grad school. It felt wonderful:). Much better than the previous woman. I felt really positive around her. I didn’t feel any desire to make snide or negative comments. I felt relaxed, not stressed around her. Felt no need to prove anything. We stared deeply into each others’ eyes. Everything seemed natural. Nothing seemed forced.
Hope that there is a second round. Would really enjoy being with her again.
I also didn’t want to push for too hard, because she is still married. If I didn’t do anything incorrect, I think this could work.
Highly educated, beautiful in a different way than the previous woman (more toward the cute side), full of life, seems a bit money stressed, but she would have no idea of my resources.
Just hope I hear back.
Is it possible for somebody to have a divorce and pick up right away with a successful relationship?
August 3, 2016 at 7:53 pm #111467AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
Glad you were relaxed, felt natural, not forced. The fact that you didn’t ask for her phone number but indicated that you will get it when she texts you is fine. Most important that you didn’t make “snide or negative comments”- that would have been a no-no on a first, second… any date.
Good you let her talk, said little as I understand. That’s fine. You wrote before that you have this permanent grave expression on your face, something like that. Maybe, just maybe she thinks you are not that interested in her because of that expression. This is why if she doesn’t call you by mid Thursday, I would contact her by Friday, some other way than calling her cell.
You have to communicate to her somehow that you are interested in getting to know her better. You knew she was interested because of her facial expressions, lighting up to see you. Since you probably don’t lighten up (said grave expression), you have to communicate your interest somehow, verbally, telling her in words that you are interested. Just so she knows.
You asked: “Is it possible for somebody to have a divorce and pick up right away with a successful relationship?” I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible. What matters is her mental health in predicting her ability to participate in a healthy relationship. The fact she is divorcing is not good news because most of the time there is a lot of distress during the process, especially with a child. This could be a lot of drama for you. Something to watch for, keep away from any potential or real fire so you don’t get burned.
But this was only a first date. And this world is far, far from ideal. And as long as you are not abused or misused, keep at it. Hope she calls and if she doesn’t- hope you contact her somehow by Friday, get her number, tell her you are interested and make a second date for this weekend, I hope.
anita
August 3, 2016 at 9:08 pm #111472XenopusTexParticipantGoing out of state on business next week, leaving on Saturday. So, will have to look later out.
August 4, 2016 at 7:01 am #111495AnonymousGuestDear Xenopex:
Hope you contact her before you leave for your business trip, if she doesn’t contact you first.
anita
August 5, 2016 at 5:53 am #111573XenopusTexParticipantHaven’t heard back. Who knows. Probably like everything else and going to hell in a handbasket.
August 5, 2016 at 8:43 am #111583AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
Contact her. Maybe she believes that you are not interested in her. Maybe your facial grave expression, maybe something else. Let her know you are interested, communicate that to her.
anita
August 5, 2016 at 1:30 pm #111613XenopusTexParticipantCouldn’t locate today. Oh well, been a week of things going to hell in a handbasket anyway. Kind of fitting. Find something that looks good only to have it appear to go splat too.
August 5, 2016 at 2:04 pm #111617AnonymousGuestDear XenopusTex:
It doesn’t make any kind of sense (emotional intelligence sense included) that she was so enthusiastic to have a lunch date with you and then nothing. Do locate her and ask her, calmly. You have to get the information.
And when you do, let me know, will you?
anita
August 5, 2016 at 11:27 pm #111655XenopusTexParticipantI don’t really know. Had suggested something after hours then mentioned that I had forgotten she had a kid when I suggested it. I can’t recall anything else that I said, though maybe it has to do with timing and the papers not yet being filed. Who knows. Just one more relationship that looks to have tanked.
Maybe she picked up on the high level of stress right now, who knows. Can’t imagine why I’d seem a bit stressed, two significant trials this month book ending my birthday (wheee), appeals due early next month, a trip to Bismarck early next month, and a BS trip that is supposed to start today. Oh, and getting surprise projects tossed in too, that result in rearranging existing meetings for the significant trials, and requiring time to figure it what the project is.
My goal of getting out more and trying to get into a relationship by the end of August; bah. Looks like ending up another year of the same old stuff.
I admit that at this point, I am just kind of tired. I am supposed drive 400 miles to Fargo today, got kept up to after midnight, now can’t get to sleep. Like I said, things just going to hell this week. Rather fitting that this potential relationship should to.
I am really tempted to just pack up and move to somewhere, truly leave family behind, never ever deal with them again. Couldn’t even get packed in peace without crap, and what about this that, and the other thing. Didn’t even want to take the trip let alone be accompanied. I don’t have time for it, I don’t want to drive it, and if I had time for travel I’d sure not go there. But here I am, stuck with it for trying to appease people. The way this week is going, maybe my car will get flattened by a semi; would certainly take care of worrying about the the upcoming BS.
Really starting to think that maybe I am just not compatible with relationships. While I would love to find somebody, somebody to kiss goodnight every night and kiss good morning every morning, just not sure that it is viable. There is a deep longing, and, being a bioscience guy, I know that quite a bit of that is hardwired, but experience is saying something different. Did you become a mathematician if you are bad at math?
I wish I was better at putting down this internal conflict. I will say that my life has felt worse since being stupid enough to let family move in. Feeling all the crap I fled from. Can’t believe I was so stupid. I try to do the dutiful thing, again, and get screwed. I move 2600 miles to get away from the crap, and was stupid enough to bring it back. Just feels like things have been going wrong since then. Now, she has pretty much given up any pretext of moving. I asked folks I know in my line of work, and I pretty much got a negative reaction from them about trying to make her move out. Gah, I hate this bs. When I go to work, I don’t have any privacy in my things at home anymore. I come back and find things have been gone through, etc. I am even getting periodic calls at work about crap that doesn’t matter.
I really don’t want to have to, but I may have to pull out of my investments to find new living arrangements. I simply can’t do this. I can’t go to sleep. I wake up edgy and in pain. Despite knowing that I don’t like watching the news, she has now gotten to standing in my door and talking about all the crap that had been spewed forth in the news. I can’t even think straight at times.
Right now, massively on edge. Looking at spending a week doing something I don’t want to, knowing I have more important things to do.
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