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November 29, 2022 at 1:42 am #410932TeeParticipant
Dear Lukas,
you’re very welcome.
My parents never judged materialistic people, they themselves are very “rich” without living like it, also had friends which were living a very materialistic life.
That’s good to hear – so you actually had a good role-model: your parents are rich and humble.
I think I need to make a choice in some sort of way, I don’t want o to impoverish myself, but I want to leave the consumption-oriented business, I think these things are harming our planet and our future livelihood and I can see and feel that this is not in accordance to what I want to be living.
That’s a very good, a very noble striving. To not add to destruction of our planet and exploitation of people and resources, but instead to do something positive, something that adds real value. I admire you and support you in that striving, Lukas!
You don’t need to impoverish yourself, indeed, but come up with a different business model, where you’re doing something worth-while, something with purpose, something that makes you feel good about yourself.
Living a capitalistic life and nurturing capitalistic tendencies don’t go together with my concept of not harming other living beings.
A while ago I’ve come across a website called consciouscapitalism dot org. You may want to check it out, it seems like their values might align with yours…
I wish you all the best in finding your way – a way that aligns with your highest values and yet provides income for you. If you ever feel like sharing about your journey, be it successes or challenges, you are very welcome. I am rooting for you!
November 29, 2022 at 2:02 am #410933LukasParticipantHello Tee,
yes, they truly are great role models I am truly grateful for them.
Thank you very much for your kind words, I hope I can achieve this dream, but as mentioned I am already working on a business plan for exactly that, with the foundation being capitalistic – in a sense that its the base for the company to be healthy, to not write red numbers, but do not have it as an ultimate goal, which I currently feel like is the case with the company I am owning a big share of. I already communicated my intentions to sell everything off and start anew.
Thank you so much for the link I already checked it out and it seems to be very interesting indeed. Thanks for your blessings, i am sure it will turn out well since it is something I really want to do to plant seeds of transformation for our environment and the way we do business.
There is a book in german roughly translated to “Lead, shape, move: Values and wisdom for a globalised world” by the dalai lama on ethical business and it inspired me a lot, maybe you can find it as an English translation 🙂
I am also rooting for you, may whatever you do lead to the well-being and happiness of others and yourself 🙂
November 29, 2022 at 3:10 am #410934TeeParticipantDear Lukas,
you’re very welcome, and thank you for your blessings. You are very kind!
I am already working on a business plan for exactly that, with the foundation being capitalistic – in a sense that its the base for the company to be healthy, to not write red numbers, but do not have it as an ultimate goal, which I currently feel like is the case with the company I am owning a big share of. I already communicated my intentions to sell everything off and start anew.
Good to hear that you’re already working on a new business model. So your plan is to sell your share in the company you’re owning together with your brother, and start alone?
About your brother, you wrote that you’ve changed your attitude towards him:
At the same time I tried to look deeply into my brothers existence and understand his suffering to gain compassion and understanding, both of these things helped me tremendously already. As a third practice I now ALWAYS hug my brother when I see him and listen to him thoroughly when we talk, to give as much attention as possible in order to not just practice on my cushion, but to also live what I try to practice.
That’s so sweet! To try to understand your brother and really listen to him, and have compassion for him. Do you still feel jealous at him sometimes? I am not asking this to judge you, just to check how things are now…
There is a book in german roughly translated to “Lead, shape, move: Values and wisdom for a globalised world” by the dalai lama on ethical business and it inspired me a lot, maybe you can find it as an English translation
I’ve looked it up and found an interview with Dalai Lama about ethical business. And the interview is on another really cool website, called bthechange dot com, if you want to check that one out as well.
Thank you so much for your kind words once again!
November 29, 2022 at 7:40 am #410942AnonymousGuestDear Lukas:
You are very welcome. “I want to leave the consumption-oriented business, I think these things are harming our planet and our future livelihood… (I) don’t want to be getting rich from selling things, I don’t want to add more to consumption, and I don’t want to exploit resources more… not harming other living beings” (Nov 29, 2022)- I have been very concerned about climate change for a long time and I admire you for your quest to not add to production and consumption. I wish that more and more people in positions of political and financial power will let go of the short-sighted goal of immediate financial profit and focus on the long-term goal of survival and well-being of LIFE on earth.
Before you mentioned your valid concern above, you wrote back in May 24, 2022: “I am very fortunate and I have everything I need… I can’t manage to be happy with what I have – which is plenty“- there was (is?) something that you needed that you didn’t have. Something was missing from that plenty.
Nov 9: “My parents… are the real Buddhists without knowing, truly beautiful people“- their beauty did not shield you from experiencing long-term “Anger, jealousy and greed… feel(ing) underappreciated… (feeling that I) will always Stay behind and He will be better off always” back in May.
Somehow, in some ways, and for a very long time, you felt that you were underappreciated and always left behind, always left behind: lots of anger and frustration in that feeling of being left behind. I wonder what it’s about.
anita
December 30, 2022 at 2:22 pm #412875LukasParticipanthello.
it has been quiet a while, i appricate all your posts and input as it has helped me to reflect.
I have Set my next steps to leave the consumption based Business World.
And i had a realization while reflecting. I somehow lost my Joy a long the way and with it my light heartedness.
I wonder if anybody of you has some input for me in regards to cultivating Joy…
thank you very much and all the best to everyone
December 30, 2022 at 2:40 pm #412877AnonymousGuestDear Lukas:
Good to read back from you, Lukas!
“I wonder if anybody of you has some input for me in regards to cultivating Joy, thank you very much and all the best to everyone“- you are welcome and thank you for your best wishes. Yes, I do have input in regard to cultivating joy: it is 2:40 pm here and I am just about to go on a brisk 6 mile walk up and down hills, here outside the city limits (removed from to a large extent from “the consumption based business world“, words you used in your recent post). It will be a longer walk than my usual daily walk. Brisk walking, like other aerobic exercises, increase blood circulation, lower inflammation, cause the release of endorphins, and otherwise cultivates light-heartendness and joy. It is difficult to do when you are not used to it, but once you cultivate the habit of it, it works!
anita
December 31, 2022 at 1:59 am #412903TeeParticipantDear Lukas,
good to hear from you, and specially that you’re working on your plan to leave the consumption based business world.
And i had a realization while reflecting. I somehow lost my Joy a long the way and with it my light heartedness.
Are you aware of what is stealing your joy? Perhaps there is a negative voice in your head telling you something, which makes you lose your joy? (e.g. perhaps there is a voice in your head telling you that you’ll never be happy and you’ll always stay behind, no matter what you do?)
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