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September 30, 2015 at 4:29 pm #84455jockParticipant
Fed up Fred
He sees too many cries for help on here which are only half the story. They make the author look like a pitiful victim which they are sometimes he admits but…..
Hey I must look like one of these people when I’ve cried for help. We all need sympathy, people to agree with us no matter what. We don’t really want to be challenged. We just want validation. Not specific advice either. Just to be listened to.
So I’m projecting. I’m fed up with myself in fact.. 🙂- This reply was modified 9 years, 1 month ago by jock.
September 30, 2015 at 7:00 pm #84462AnonymousGuestA pleasure to make your acquaintance Fed up Fred. A pleasure to make the acquaintance with all of you:
Pious Pete
Llama Jack
Neurotic Norman
Polite Paul
Analytical Alan
Ruminator Ron
Chairman Chuck aka Jumpin’ Jehovah Jack
Hypochondriac Henry
Animalistic Abe
Please no pressure Percy
Zero self-esteem Jack
Jumpin Jack Flash
Adam the Adult
Expect too Much Eric
and again, you, Fed up Fred,15 of you so far (did I miss anyone!), and something tells me there are more… can’t wait
anita
September 30, 2015 at 8:54 pm #84478jockParticipantreally?can’t wait? I assume you are not just humouring me.. 🙂
Omnipresent Ollie- this guy is delusional. he thinks he is God. He thinks he is wise, he thinks he is special,he looks down on mere mortals, it’s hard to relate to humans so he feels lonely He has team meetings with Wise Jack and Llama Jack. He gets annoyed with Jack’s one liners and irreverence because he wants to be taken seriously….Wise and Omni then have to take over and ask Llama to leave.
October 1, 2015 at 8:00 am #84502AnonymousGuestAs the self appointed secretary of all of you, I am organizing everyone alphabetically:
Adam the Adult
Analytical Alan
Animalistic Abe
Chairman Chuck (aka Jumpin Jehovah Jack)
Expect too Much Eric
Fed up Fred
Hypochondriac Henry
Jumpin Jack Flash
Llama Jack
Neurotic Norman
Omnipresent Olie
Pious Pete
Please no pressure Percy
Polite Paul
Ruminator Ron
Wise Jack
Zero self-esteem Jack.I can do more work with these persons so far, some analytic work. I may if you would welcome it?
anita
October 1, 2015 at 8:05 am #84506jockParticipantOf course Anita.
Long lost Grand-daughter of Freud
Anita Freud.October 1, 2015 at 10:08 am #84521AnonymousGuestDear Jack:
Working on it! In progress.
anitaOctober 2, 2015 at 10:42 am #84576AnonymousGuestDear Jack:
Update: Took a break, still working on it. Can you explain Fed up Fred better? Also i was wondering, is one of the persons in you the one telling you: Idiot! You can’t do anything right- nothing mechanical. And you can’t do family reunions in your house.. and you are (I can go on, pretty good at it)- which or the personalities is that shaming, criticizing (older brother’s) voice?
anita
October 2, 2015 at 11:39 am #84578AnonymousGuestDear Jack:
Here is what I have for you so far, and this is preliminary:
The Id, aka “inner child” is the psychic part of Jack that existed since conception and which carries the enduring history of millions years of evolution. This is ANIMALISTIC JACK who, like amoeba, moves toward pleasure and comfort and away from displeasure and discomfort. There is absolutely nothing you can do to change your Id, your inner child. He will always move toward pleasure and away from displeasure. At best you can teach him to endure temporary discomfort for future greater-than-now comfort. JUMPIN’ JACK FLASH is also your Id, the creative part, expanding on the strict moving-toward-pleasure-and-away-from displeasure Animalistic Abe. Jumpin Jack Flash is an evolutionary step beyond Animalistic Abe, evolved to the point of being creative. Wanting to show his creativity: “Look at me! See what I can do!”
The SuperEgo is the psychic part in humans whose job is to get along with other humans as we are social animals. Unfortunately in most people, the superego becomes a monster that attacks its host. Instead of it being enough to say: “Jack, wait your turn in line” it says: “I am going to beat you with this whip because you are taking space in this line” Instead of just saying: “You are not mechanically inclined at this point so let us develop your intellectual abilities, good job at it, by the way!” It says: “You are a failure for not being mechanically inclined, and… here is that whip. I am going to beat you up for not being mechanically inclined!”
The parts of you Jack to follow were born out of your efforts to try to please the monster on one end and your efforts to try to shrink the monster on the other. PIOUS PETE, born out of a couple thousand years of Christian history is telling you: “Monster is correct: you are inadequate, bad, sinful, no good (and don’t bother trying to be good by deeds because what you think and feel is bad, so no use trying to act good), and therefore submit to the monster (superego/ monster= god) and the god will be as good to you as a god can be (save your soul for another time, that is after death).
Poor ANALYTICAL ALAN tries his very best to figure out a way out of his badness, find just the right arguments to present to the monster. RUMINATOR RON gives Analytical Alan all the time Analytical Alan needs and more, to come up with that argument. NEUROTIC NORMAN is suffering because of the continuous failure of Analytical Alan and Ruminator Ron to come up with an argument that will put the monster to rest and render him impotent. PLEASE NO PRESSURE PERCY is Neurotic Norman under pressure, not good. Obviously everything is worse under pressure, the whippings by the monster are increased, blood is shed… it is a mess.
LLAMA JACK, WISE JACK, and CHAIRMAN CHUCK include healthy elements in you (as are Analytical Alan and Ruminator Ron but they are both misguided and keep working hard based on misunderstanding, so they are going nowhere) but they are trying to WORK WITH the Monster. Problem is the monster is a son of a bitch and always will be. The monster needs to be eliminated, the superego re-made to what it was meant to be: get along with others, just get along, not blood shedding.
anita
October 2, 2015 at 12:41 pm #84579LoriParticipantAt one point there was a Farmer Jack, no? He helped us find our porpoises?
October 2, 2015 at 12:48 pm #84580LoriParticipantWait, my bad, make that Farmer Jock.
October 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm #84581jockParticipantanita
that was sensational!, you are a freudian scholar, thanks so much
believe it or not, I’ve got some casual back breaking physical work at the moment
so my posts will be short for a whileOctober 2, 2015 at 1:48 pm #84582jockParticipanthey lori
did I ask you about your porpoise? How is he by the way?October 2, 2015 at 3:27 pm #84585jockParticipantAnita
I think a part of me is a version of one of my older brothers, their worst aspects when they were bullying me.(monster?) Like a cross between Pious Pete, and someone else who like the superego you mentioned who is in charge of social skills.
I’m surprised you think Ruminator Ron is one of the good guys.
Fed up Fred reminds me of one of my impatient older brothers. Doesn’t suffer fools gladly. I like to think that is a very small part of the real me.October 2, 2015 at 8:08 pm #84589AnonymousGuestDear Jack:
Ruminator Ron’s motive is to help you but he is misguided so he is not helpful. In practice then he is not a good guy. He means well but as you know the road to hell is filled with good intentions. Can you imagine, even Monster originally had the good intention of making you get along with your bully older brother, beating you up so you shape up and be approved by your bully older brother. In practice Monster is giving you hell though… Even when everyone means well, so intentions are not indicative of good works, that is for sure.
I still don’t get Fed up Fred, is he fed up only with others or with the other parts of you?
So you would say that Monster is part of you, taking after your bully older brother? Does he have a name, Bully Brian? Abusive Aaron? Tyrannical Tom? ? ?
Give me more material if you want more of my analysis…
And doing physical work today, huh? Who is doing it?
anitaOctober 2, 2015 at 8:53 pm #84594AnonymousGuestDear Jack:
I forgot Adam the Adult taking care of bill paying business (and doing the back breaking work today? I hope you are okay…) – well he managed well in the past, then ran out of fuel because your id/ inner child is where the fuel is and the id was being beaten by the superego and struggling for air. There is just so much Adam the Adult can do without the id, the child. integration and the effective working together of the Id and the to-be-reconstructed superego are required.
Will be back in 24 hours or so. Take care of all of you (except for Monster):
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