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  • #316469
    Anonymous
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    Dear cali sister:

    Good Monday morning!

    Regarding the friends who didn’t check on you the next day, after supporting you regarding the NC: when you realized they didn’t check on you, you thought: “they aren’t good friends. They don’t even care about me”. The emotion that closely followed that thought was “hostility, hatred”.

    The way to fix this: think of alternative explanations as to why they didn’t check on you the day after: maybe they had reason to believe that you had plenty of support on your day off, maybe your sister’s support and maybe they thought you will be very busy with her birthday events that they didn’t want to interfere with your day.

    Your original assumption that they don’t care about you is where you automatically go to explain situations, based on your real life experience of parents not caring about you. This is your go-to assumption. Then you get locked in it. Think of other explanations and check them if you can. Check with the people concerned, in a casual way, so to figure out the real reasons they didn’t check on you.

    A feeling different from hostility and hatred will follow other explanations, as long as they are true.

    Next, “I realized I would never see my father again. I guess it is time to mourn him”- use your thread here to doĀ  this mourning over days, weeks, months, however long it takes.

    And do discuss the two topics you mentioned- I didn’t know there is a concrete plan of your sister moving!

    About the compiling of quotes, I will do soĀ  in my next post to you. It will be quick because I will copy and paste what I already prepared, then submit and then edit to fix the mess that happens on the page when pasting from another source. I changed all your “i”s to “I”s, and changed lower case to upper case letters at the beginning of your sentences, for an easier read.

    That will be next.

    anita

     

    #316473
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    November 13, 2016:Ā  “I am the sister of Cali Chica..my mother is having an episode of some sort (hard to diagnose properly) ā€“ but in layman terminology- she is going even more insane. she is harassing my sister and I verbally. last night she called saying that our father is having really bad chest pain.. and then changes the story and says ‘not that type of chest pain. he has chest pain in the center, from throwing up all day etc.’. So my sister and I are on the phone wondering what is true what isn’t… she starts screaming horrendous things..and then continues to scream about how this has all happened because of us, and she needs to take care of her husband, and that as parents they have done so much and this is the suffering they get from their sacrifices…it is insanity. It is lifechanging because I see the truth but I also do not know the solution. It is also very hard for me to think.., wow this is my life. these are my parents. I don’t really have parents.

    Nov 30, 2017: Today I went to the pharmacy for the first time and picked up an anti-depressant.

    September 11, 2017: I went to therapy twice a week, moved away from home toxicity. I moved across the country. and immediately was so much happier. The depression, suicidal thoughts? all gone…((later:)) I don’t know what is happening..I thought I was better.

    Nov 29:Ā  I moved across the country. And will probably never return physically close to her. I still am on the anti-depressant but will likely be switching or tapering off… I have been miserable and suffering all of my life.

    December 1, 2017: she has said that to me about everything. I am never good enough or strong enough or as smart as others ā€“ in her eyes. always puts me down”

    anita: “RepeatedlyĀ  terrorizedĀ  by your motherā€™s mental rep, your anxiety, the blur is maintained. This isĀ  not necessarily a life sentence. WhatĀ  do you think?”

    cali sister: “yes ā€“ I completely agree. it is not a life sentence. but I don’t know how to get bailed out”

    December 2, 2017: I donā€™t have family. Iā€™m essentially alone. (Of course I have my sister). But Iā€™m essentially alone in this anxiety that I have.

    December 9: Iā€™ve felt alone my entire life. Tortured by family. Iā€™ve felt like an orphan. Never really had anything. .. Never had the family… Itā€™s not fair. I deserve to have that support. That feeling of love and safety. Iā€™ve never had it. Not for my entire life… Parents and others have always made feel uneasy and unsafe.

    December 19: one of the concepts I really struggle with is trying to figure out which things my parents taught me (if anything) are actually good. or is it all bad? Have I learned anything good from them? Were they acting like parents at ANY point? I am left so confused. I must have learned somethingā€¦positive?.. I cannot tell if some of the things my father has taught me about managing money is correct or if it is a scheme to keep me near and continuously need them…I once had a dream that my father chased me around this mall type building and used a knife to engrave something in my wrist. Last night I had a dream that my mother tried to commit suicide by drinking a bottle of vodka ā€“ when asked why she wouldnā€™t speak and I felt this type of frustration that I have felt my entire life with her ā€“ kind of like WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS. And then I woke up. I have grown up with suicidal statements are just stated as if it is normal.. My mother said she will start driving on highways now even though she doesnā€™t know how and ‘who cares if I die’…sometimes my sister and I think that they know deep, deep inside that they are evil. how can I be free of these nightmares and why did they start now?

    December 22: My thoughts are usually what my sister would think or my mother. I do not have my own identity. The other day I was reading my childhood diary to my sister. My diary from when I was 9 years old is literally just the thought process of my mother.

    December 26, 2017: Holidays for me are always spent in so much fear. Before they come, I have so much anxiety ā€“ my mother has ruined the holidays for my sister and I. she has made them so horrible and unbearable. Last night, I was able to have a Christmas dinner with my friend .. I was so overwhelmed with how nice everyone was to me this weekend that I was unable to take it in and process it. it was something I was not used to. When my friend’s aunt hugged me, I felt a hug that I haven’t felt before from my mother ā€“ it was a truly caring hug. I realize how horribly selfish my mother really is…I am always in a rush.. but for what? (my mom always made me feel like death is upon us) nightmares are worsening during this time, but it only makes sense. it is a traumatic time.

    January 4, 2018: I am miserable. I want to be free. I want to be excited for my future not hate everything about it.

    January 5:Ā  As we speak, (or I type I guess) my mother texts me. Recently when my parents contact me and if I am in public, I find myself cursing at them out loud. As if I want everyone around me to know they are horrible people…however, TO THIS DAY, when I think about my mother sometimes, I still feel so bad for her. My heart drops and I think ‘poor mother of mine’.. another thing is that I have always been closer to my father. He has, of course, also done his fair share of abuse and torture. However, I still crave to know about him. He is an abuser but I still crave him. Most times when I speak to him, I immediately regret it afterwards ā€“ he causes extra stress and negativity. He has been literally pure evil for a big percent of my life… he has told me I am a curse to be alive…I am always so scared something will happen to him. He suffers from heart disease, which my mother has blamed me for and also has given me intense anxiety that he will drop dead any moment. What will happen when he’s not here?

    January 6: My mother always said things like ā€œif i donā€™t tell my daughters, who will I tell?ā€ she wanted us to feel bad for her. she liked it when she told us something and we cried for her.

    January 9: Am I this angry at my mother that I yell at people for no reason? or am I angry at my life. Or is that the same thing.

    January 11: My mother has always made me feel like THIS IS IT and death is upon me. I think everything has to happen right now. I never ever think I have time. It is a concept that is so foreign to me.

    January 17 ((addressed to sister)): A couple months ago, sister, I told you about a thought I had. I stated ā€“ ‘do you ever thing maybe mom was just always like this? Like maybe sheā€™s just a bad person ..since ALWAYS. So maybe it isn’t right for us to be sad that all these bad things MADE her this way. Maybe she is just a cruel person’…our father was not cruel to us the way mother was. Not emotionally abusive growing up. Now, yes. But he was never evil the way she was. He had anger issues yes. But it was not directed towards us on purpose like hers was.

    January 18: When our cleaning lady came every Tuesday growing up ā€“ my mother would put an insane amount of pressure on me to make sure T or R were free to come over. ‘make sure you have a friend when Maria comes over. Or else it will look bad.’ So there I was, scrambling, desperately asking people if they could hang out with me ā€“ because I HAD to. Not because I wanted to. This is still drilled in me. I feel like I HAVE to. If I did not have plans on a certain night, it automatically made me a loser… Motherā€™s words: ‘oh my daughter Cali Chica always had so many friends. Cali Chica is outgoing and laughs so much. Cali sister, yeah she has problems with that’ I always felt like the weird one. The ugly one. The quiet one that no one likes. Cali Chica ā€“ she’s the perfect, social, queen. Me? I have ‘social problems’.

    January 19: There have been countless times where my mother and father are taking a drive somewhere (this is when I lived at home) ā€“ and I always felt oh so lonely and never had great friendships. My father was always delighted for me to join them. Always asked me to come. I have severe PTSD from moments when my mother would literally, LITERALLY, tell me not to come. She would uninvite me. She would say ‘no you donā€™t come. You just stay home’. Do you know how unwanted I felt?.. For my mother, everything is next, next, next. There is no such thing as being in the moment…They ((parents)) truly know nothing about me. I used to always think ‘if I died today, what would they even say about me. How would they describe me?’ I sit here at my work desk right now and feel very emotional. am literally tearing. I truly am not sure why. I guess sometimes we just need a good cry.

    January 20-21:Ā  I always sensed a slight hatred for me in her. She doesnā€™t have that with my sister. With me, itā€™s like sheā€™s angry Iā€™m alive. Thereā€™s many examples I have of this.

    I look around me and I cry. I see everything Iā€™ve done around me. How hard I try to be happy and have a better living. I see it all and start to bawl. I see how much effort I put in and I truly feel so bad for myself. I hug myself. I am trying so hard. And yet, I mean this fully when I say it, I feel exactly the same way Iā€™ve felt for years and years. I donā€™t understand the point of anything Anita. It always comes back to this horrible core feeling…And when I go out. I feel like I have to put on all these nice clothes. I put on makeup. I do my hair. I anxiously have fun. But in my core I am so broken. So utterly broken. Unhappy. And lonely…

    She is a bully to my sister and I, and when we have an actual problem ā€“ she bullies us more…Most of the time I have no desire to even live. I donā€™t get the point of it. I find nothing in this life. To me, itā€™s something that is forced on me and I have to keep going… Everything feels like a chore. I eat because I have to. Make sure puppy gets energy out bc I have to. Ā Go to work because I have to.

    January 22: There is no benefit in speaking to my parents. None at all. But I will not stop contact with them ā€“ because at this moment in time, I cannot imagine also losing parents. Then I would be ā€¦. actually alone.

    January 24: It has been a recent discovery that my parents are ‘cruel’ ā€“ so accepting that and getting used to that itself is difficult.

    I donā€™t think I would be able to cut contact unless I have full support ā€“ a healthy relationship with a man…

    I was given the option to have a restraining order against my mother from the police station. I was very disturbed and had my friend burn it.

    February 3, 2018: I just called my parents from the airport (mostly to check in on my dad). The moment my mother took the phone. I felt the anger come in. The things she said were so irritating. And worst of all was her voice. Oh her voice. I wanted to throw my phone out. I couldnā€™t wait to get out off the phone. Itā€™s almost similar to a dog trying to squirm through a small space. Oh thatā€™s enough for a week I think!

    February 24: As you know my sister has cut contact with my parents, which resulted in them harassing me. I was able to put an end to it pretty quickly ā€“ I stood my ground and told them I will no longer answer their calls because I also have to take care of my health. I feel a sense of power that I did not feel before. I have control of my life… What a new feeling.

    I have been participating in therapy regularly. In some ways, I feel a lot better. I have learned many skills to deal with my anxiety at work. My therapist says she sees a huge improvement in me, although I do not see it as much as she does…

    When my first dog passed away in 2014 after 13 years of life, she ((mother)) fled the state with my father and sister the next day. She immediately called my uncle in California that same night and made arrangements to attend a wedding they had previously RSVPed ‘no’ for. She stated, ‘it will help us to be there during this time.’ Ok, but what about me? I was in school at the time, with needless to say, no friends practically. I could not take off because I had exams. So she left me. (I cannot even type this without feeling anger and sadness). She left me all by myself in my home where my sweet dog lived for 13 years.. And the next day, I was alone. Truly all alone to deal with this loss from my life. I was strong, I took all of my exams. But I was numb, almost felt dead…I remember being so traumatized to be in the house because all of her toys and cage were still there. I could still smell her.

    March 1, 2018: I am learning to accept what my life has been ā€“ and at the same time, realizing more and more the falseness my mother has put in my brain. I am not feeling lonely ā€“ I am feeling strong actually. And that anything is possible. She begged me to stay in touch with her and send her a picture of me everyday. ‘It is the least you can do for me. I am your mother. I will die if you donā€™t talk to me.’

    Couple days later, she is the one that disappears from me. She DOES WHAT SHE WANTS. She DOES WHAT SERVES HER.

    March 5: The influence of my parents, their voices in my head ā€“ poison. Iā€™ve been drinking poison for almost 26 years now ā€“ and I finally have reached a point where I can maybe sip it, but not take a full gulp.

    This past Saturday, my dad texted me asking to call. I was not going to, butā€¦oh I got pulled in. I felt uneasy not calling. He wanted to talk to me regarding some tax forms he needed. Then my mother took the phone before I could hang up. I was unable to recover from the poison for ā€¦hours. Talking to them for those 5 minutes.. showed me HOW MUCH they influence the negativity on me. I knew this, but I saw it for real in front of my eyes. It took me a while to get out of the funk…

    Did I tell you about how my mother did not come to the hospital when i was in a car accident? Only my father did. And he rushed there. Like a parent should.

    June 8, 2018: I was always compared. Never good enough. I felt inadequate. This will not be forever, but for the past 3 months, it has been torture. I have lost 7 pounds and much of my hair. Therapy is helping but it fades quickly, and I cannot go everyday! ..

    I recently talk to them everyday. Why? Because in this moment of despair, they are the most familiar and comforting to me. (How odd and twisted. I hate it.) But right now, speaking them, oddly enough, brings a piece of me back. All of this has made me feel like a piece of nothing. So their voices remind me of some childhood memories and some passions I had.

    Lastly, I will end with this ā€“ I feel so lost. I feel like an orphan. My job will be ending in Los Angeles soon, and it is time for me to make my next step. Where will I move for my real job? Move to an entire new state and start all over alone again? No, that sounds so overwhelming and sad. I feel like I have no where to go. No place to call home. My parents are toxic. My sister doesnā€™t always seem to love being around me. What do I have? ā€¦ After much considerationā€¦ my sister and I have decided that I will move close to her. I miss her and all we really need is each other… Moving closer to her gives me anxiety too, however. She switches off and on from being supportive to saying abusive things like my mother. Butā€¦we have spoken about it and hopefully can get better with time.

    June 10: Since I started therapy, I have not missed one day of work due to anxiety issues. I am better in many ways

    June 13: Some days I feel truly miserable. Other days I feel more stable, like things are more on track. Anxiety is my baseline.

    June 14: I have a lot of love to give and am a loving person. But my words and actions donā€™t always show that. I want to work on being a better person. It will allow me to be happier inside and out. Iā€™ve already practiced this with friends around me. And the outcomes are phenomenal.”

    anita

    * What is in double parentheses (( – are my clarifications.

    #316485
    cali sister
    Participant

    anita,

    I will read what you have pasted momentarily. These are my current thoughts this morning:

    I spent the weekend celebrating my sister. It was an enjoyable weekend of course, but I did not get to really process my big decision. I did not really get the chance to celebrate what I have done. So I wake up today with this energy to celebrate ME and what I have done. But I realize that no one really understands what I’m going through so it is hard to find people to have that celebration with. How should I celebrate? Instead of waiting for my friends to reach out to me and stay angry with them (mentally), I decided to send a text to the group chat with BJP and ask what day everyone is free for a celebration this week. The responses were fine, but not exhilarated or excited like I want them to be. Not like your responses. Not like my therapists responses. And it’s because you and my therapist understand it. No one understands it. My sister does, but I cant talk to her about it. So I feel as though I am in this place, forcing people to come celebrate with me. They do not understand the SIZE of this decision. HOW LARGE IT IS. You know, people say you choose your family. And they say to surround yourself with good supportive friends. I have made new friends – but this morning I felt so alone – because people have not reacted the way I would expect. So then it is like…what do I do.. continue to make new friends..continue trying to find this family? It is exhausting. And I hate that after such a big decision that I have made for myself, I am already presented with this new anxiety and worry. I wish not to be worried by this and focus on my major accomplishment. M was very supportive when this all happened, but I already see that it may have been it. In other words, she was supportive when she saw me bawling etc, and I think that was the limit of it. I guess people do not understand the after effects of this all.

    This being said, it is very likely that my sister and her husband may be moving in a couple months. We live 11 min away from each other right now – FINALLY. after years, and now they will leave. My only family and really support will move away as well. So I guess what I am trying to say is that I feel happy and excited about this decision…but do I really have anyone to celebrate it with? And it breaks my heart that my sister may move across the country.

    You know how hard it is that my sister continuously sends happy texts to me? I am SO HAPPY that she had a good birthday and is feeling better. But…I have just gone through something MAJOR. It is becoming difficult for me to continuously text her happy things back when I do not really feel it. I amĀ  going through a plethora of emotions. I understand it is triggering for her to talk about it etc, however, I do wish she would be more understanding that this literally happened to me like 4 days ago..so I am not just fine and all happy go lucky. She is ignoring it so that she can keep her peace, so I have decided to not reply to her too much..because it is causing me angst.

    My entire life everything has always been about her. celebrating her. Oh, anita, I owe it finally to myself to celebrate me. I protect her, I stand up for her, I kept the family together, I was the scapegoat. Her medical graduation was so celebrated. Mine was – my father told me I was a curse to be born. HOLY FREAKIN &%^%! IT IS MY TURN NOW. Don’t you think?

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by cali sister.
    #316489
    cali sister
    Participant

    Another thing I want to add to that is that – it feels as if my entire life has been protecting others – so I do not show my own feelings. At home, I had to protect my parents, so I could not express myself. With my sister, I have to protect her, so I cannot express myself. I am sick and tired of being blamed for things as well. I have to walk on tippy toes. I DON’T WANT TO ANYMORE. It is my turn this week.

    #316501
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    I say it is your turn for the rest of your life, not just this week.

    Regarding cutting contact with your parents- you have two people who understand: me and your therapist. When I cut contact with my mother (my father was dead at that point)- I was seeing a therapist, and a wonderful one. Except that he himself didn’t support my NC decision- it was a point of great disappointment for me. I felt that I was in the process of convincing him that it was the right thing for me- he didn’t disapprove of it- but he was not at allĀ  excited about it, not at all. So you see, I had no one at all excited or supportive about it. At least you have two people.

    Cutting contact with parents go against societal conventions. Your friends probably feel threatened or uncomfortable about the topic- maybe they wanted to cut contact with their parents many times before, maybe they don’t anymore,Ā  but they don’t want to be reminded of that angst.

    I would say- forget about celebrating your NC decision with anyone. Except for here and in therapy, if your therapist is indeed comfortable and excited for you. NC is still a revolutionary decision in society.

    Another topic: for you to move on at this point, you have to free yourself from the family role where you were stuck forĀ  so long- “my entire life has been protecting others.. At home, I had to protect my parents.. With my sister, I have to protect her, so I cannot express myself”-

    – you have to free yourself from this family role, in addition to NC.

    It is probably a good idea that your sister will be moving then, as difficult as it would be for you to not have family in nyc. You will visit; she will visit.

    We talked earlier about me communicating with your sister today regarding inaccurate projections about you, something I did as wellĀ  as she. I have an idea- I can suggest to the two of you how to go about your relationship with each other at this time, post your NC and as you aim at freeing yourself from the family role you’ve been stuck in for so long.

    If you agree, tell me more about that family role, of you protecting your sister and not expressing yourself, give me concrete example in addition to your recent example of her happy texts (a good example in itself).

    Also- no need for you to read the quotes post I sent you- anytime in the future when it feels like, no time requirement.

    anita

    #316523
    cali sister
    Participant

    anita,

    I am sorry that you had no one supportive or excited about it – I’m very grateful that you are here helping others.

    “I would say- forget about celebrating your NC decision with anyone. Except for here and in therapy, if your therapist is indeed comfortable and excited for you. NC is still a revolutionary decision in society.”

    I think this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you. It is a celebration of my own.

    With regards to friends, I see what you mean. People do not like feeling uncomfortable. So it is not that they “hate” me, but they are doing what is comforting to them. Which I guess to me, tends to be a foreign concept.

    With regards to what you asked, I think that is great, but not my focus of writing for now. So perhaps we can postpone it?

    WOW. I read the compilations of my posts. I want to hug that person, with so much angst. It was quite interesting to read my own writing years later. The word lonely came up so much. Alone. – And interesting, how I brought it up today as well…. hmm

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by cali sister.
    #316531
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    True, “People do not like feeling uncomfortable”- so always consider this primary motivation true to all living things: moving away from what is painful/ uncomfortable.

    We can definitely postpone what I suggested, absolutely. It was a suggestion, you get to consider it, accept or reject and set the timing as well.

    Regarding the compilations of your posts, Alone and Lonely is an ongoing theme in your posts and in your life. I have other thoughts regarding what I learned from my review. Will share if you want.

    anita

    #316549
    cali sister
    Participant

    Yes please please share !

    #316557
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    Before I do- after I submitted to you my recent post I realized that I didn’t respond to the part where youĀ  expressed empathy for me for not having support for my NC (2013). Then I thought: maybe cali sister will feel ignored for it, and I felt somewhat guilty for neglecting to acknowledge and thank you for your expressed empathy. My point in bringing this up is what we talked about most recently, about your friends not checking in with you a day after your NC- people are limited to what they pay attention to at any one time. In this example, I noticed your expressed empathy, was going to thank you for it, but I focused on another point, got distracted and forgot my plan.

    So in any one post I might forget to attend to all that you express, same as anyone, I suppose. But remember this: just like me not acknowledging your empathy did not mean that I didn’t notice it, that I didn’t appreciate it (or worse: that I didn’t like it or was angry at you), it doesn’t mean that your friends didn’t care etc. Maybe they were uncomfortable with the topic (I believe it is very likely) but in addition toĀ  it, maybe they.. forgot, got distracted, just like I did, with best intentions!

    Next post, I will comment on the quotes.

    anita

     

    #316561
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    And I still forgot to thank you- thank you for the empathy, cali sister!

    Three comments on quotes today (more at a later time):

    1. Jan 22, 2018: “I will not stop contact with them- because at this moment in time, I cannot imagine also losing parents. Then IĀ  wouldĀ  be… actually alone”-

    – I remember this very morning how I felt when I read this close to two years ago- I cringed. Because like you stated yourself today, I noticed the Alone theme (ex.: I don’t have family. I’m essentially alone”, Dec 2, 2017 and “I’ve felt alone my entire life. Tortured by family. I’ve felt like an orphan.. Never had the family, Dec 9, 2017)- you were alone there with your parents so much, so often, I think it was the one thing that you could depend on in that household- being alone, left behind, uninvited, rejected, disapproved of and so forth.

    2. Sept 11, 2017: “I.. moved away from home toxicity. I moved across the country. and immediately was so much happier. The depression, suicidal thoughts? all gone”- reminds me of the excitement and sense of freedom you had a short while after establishing the NC. Back to Sept 2017 quote: “all gone.. I don’t know what is happening.. I thought I was better”- just like then, distress is not over for you, unfortunately. This is why I am here for you, to helpĀ  you through the distress yet to be.

    3. Nov 13, 2016″my mother is having an episode of some sort (hard to diagnose properly)”- I am guessing a mixture of personality disorders: Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic and Paranoid (in alphabetic order).

    Jan 17, 2017: “maybe she’s just a bad person… since ALWAYS… Maybe she is just a cruel person”- yes, she has been bad and cruel to you ever since you were unfortunate enough to be born to her- which is “since ALWAYS”, for you (and for your sister).

    Feel free to respond to any of these or post about anything else.

    anita

     

    #316575
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    I wrote to you this past weekend that on Monday I will write to your sister my thoughts about misunderstanding you in the past because of inaccurate projections and pointing to inaccurate projections on her part regarding you. I was busy so far with today’s communications, and I was thinking: because it is your sister’s birthday today, maybe it is better that I postpone that writing for tomorrow morning when I am more focused- will that be okay with you?

    I will wait for your answer and if you want me to do this today, I will.

    anita

    #316577
    cali sister
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

     

    yes of course. I think I misunderstood an earlier post where I thought you said you and her already discussed this. But of course.

    I am walking home now. I am thinking about how you said I donā€™t have to celebrate with anyone. That is heartwarming to me. And something I needed to hear. Something a mother says to her child. When the child comes home and says, mom itā€™s my bday but I have no one to celebrate with. The mother responds me and you can celebrate together. My mother, parrot, would do the exact opposite. Start crying and say how horrible it is for me that I have no friends.

    so thank you for that. For stating that. My brainwashed being directly goes to ā€œoh this good thing happened to me, but I have no one to celebrate with.ā€ I donā€™t NEED to celebrate it with anyone. Itā€™s my own thing. Itā€™s my thing with you. Just because I donā€™t share it, doesnā€™t make it less real.

    #316583
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear cali sister:

    And I didn’t think about this part of it, to not celebrate with others being the opposite of your mother’s message but I see it now. Yes, definitely, your NC is so very valuable without celebrating it with anyone. But you are welcome to celebrate it here with me, in a quiet kind of way (no restaurant, or a dance floor with people, etc.)-

    – I imagine when you get home your puppy will be happy to see you. I hope you make yourself comfortable (if you are staying at home and not celebrating still your sister’s birthday?) and listen to music you like, or whatever it is you choose to do. And anytime you want to celebrate this wonderful achievement, this NC, type away!

    (I will write to your sister tomorrow then, glad you are okay with postponing it).

    anita

    #316593
    cali sister
    Participant

    anita,

    you state how my NC is so very valuable without celebrating it with anyone. Let me take that in….OH IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

    I was never taught this. Ever. It is beautiful, there is no other word.

    I changed into pajamas and I ordered some pizza! Going to eat some unhealthy food and write and watch tv. Perhaps clean a little too, and try on some new clothes I have bought.

    Also, you’re welcome for the empathy! Interesting as you say it could have perhaps slipped their (my friends) mind, however – for someone like you or me, perhaps. Yes, it may have slipped their mind, but they are not similar to you (or me) in that they would address when they remember again – because quite honestly I think that most people just think about themselves. (And I do not mean this in a bad way) – It is a quality I was not taught. It is foreign to me. They also do not understand how LARGE this is.

    I cannot expect anyone to. But you told me once a while back, we are social beings. So it is natural to crave sometimes.

     

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    Dear cali sister:

    Your mother taught you (and your sister) how selfish other people are, how bad they are etc. Well-most are not as bad as her- a point to remember.

    Yes, there are lots of selfish, inconsiderate people, but not as many and not as badly as your mother taught you. (My mother taught me the same).

    I know you crave people, we all do. It is natural to crave company, affection, positive attention, and at your age it is definitely natural to crave a love relationship.

    I will soon be going for an hour walk in the fog- it is foggy outside: above, below, to the sides, everywhere, not an inch of the outside that is free of fog.

    anita

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