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September 22, 2016 at 11:42 am #115921AnonymousInactive
I never imagined what my action could lead to, if I knew I probably wouldn’t but… it was so difficult at the time, they were so cruel before HR intervened, in the end I didn’t have a choice
September 22, 2016 at 12:04 pm #115923AnonymousGuestDear cherryblossom:
So you experienced bullying by your co workers. You approached HR to resolve it. As a result of that, your manager was harmed. You didn’t intend to harm him, but you made a mistake: you bypassed him.
Looking back, you realize (do you?) that contacting your direct manager was the right way to go about the workplace bullying, even if that contact was via a chat line.
You mentioned before that you betrayed your co workers. I don’t see your act as a betrayal of them; after all they bullied you. The miscalculation on your part was going to a level above your manager and stating there that your manager was not present in the workplace.
The other mistake is not asserting yourself with the bullying co workers. That would have been best- take care of business with the offenders directly so to avoid reaching out to another party to solve the problem.
This is my best understanding at this point. I sure hope I got it.
anita
September 22, 2016 at 12:29 pm #115927AnonymousInactiveHi anita,
You got it this time. I am now better equipped to deal with such situations. I wasn’t back then. Also, if it is a single occasion it is one thing, if it is every day, for 8 hours a day, for months, from all (yes all – sheep put wolves masks to not be eaten too). This cannot be your everyday life. I don’t want to go back into details because it gets really ugly, the comments they made and what they insinuated about me. Dirty sexual, humiliating, mocking, disturbing, ugly.
As I mentioned, we had an “open door policy” in the company. I didn’t bypass my manager as I didn’t go to his manager. I went to HR as the policy allowed me. Yes in theory the distance between manager and employee normally grows as the employee goes to HR behind his back but there was no violation on my part.
The past is the past and cannot be changed. I just stepped on a mine without expecting the size of explosion it would cause.
Anyway, if I was wrong to contact HR and if I was inefficient in standing for myself, do you think that the actions that followed towards me were proportional to my mistake? Honestly, HR was my only ally in this nightmare, even alleviating the situation by imposing measures to keep a good tone. Of course they could not be present at all times but I could tell when my colleagues were remediated.
Thanks for all your advise. I don’t wish to anyone to experience this as it cannot be described to someone who has not been in that same situation. It is unthinkable what people are capable of and unimaginable if not experienced.
Like Pete said, I should now focus on the future, and how I plan to fix this. I am doing everything possible from my side, using only positive messages to people. I have really put that story behind my back and looking for a fresh clean start. Hoping for one.September 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm #115931AnonymousGuestDear cherryblossom:
I suppose you committed no violation by going to HR. It is similar perhaps, in principle to the following example: I am driving a car within the speed limit but boom! I crashed into a car in front of me. My car is destroyed and my arm broken. A police officer takes my version of the accident. I say: I did nothing wrong! I committed no violation! I drove within the speed limit!”
So the police officer asks: yes, but did you notice you were getting too close to the car driving in front of you?
“no, I didn’t have to because I was driving the speed limit!”
As we negotiate our way through life, in personal and professional life, we better see the whole picture, explore different angles, not just one.
I too hope for a fresh new beginning for you. Remember it is not only the professional competency that counts, but making the professional interactions with others work for you and not against you.
anita
September 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm #115933AnonymousInactiveI don’t understand why you keep making me go back to this situation and make me question the lessons I have already learned.
You can never do enough for someone who has decided they don’t like you.
Some situations in life are inevitable and sometimes we don’t have a choice, even if we are cornered to act against our best interest. We can only try to understanding what it was and not if it could be prevented. Some things cannot be prevented.
I believe in myself that at the given time I have done what I believe was the right thing to do for the given moment.
September 22, 2016 at 9:17 pm #115972AnonymousGuestDear cherryblossom:
I wasn’t aware that you already learned the lessons you needed to learn. Now I am and therefore, I withdraw any further questions about the past events.
Wishing you the best-
anita
September 23, 2016 at 5:24 am #115985AnonymousInactiveI am so sorry… I really am sorry and regret with my whole being… I had it all and it went down the drain because of stupid decisions I made… I really wish I could fix this, I truly regret…
I never should quit being the simple service desk person where I was happy and satisfied, to go to that careerist team of schemers, I made that move for the wrong reasons and my life turned upside down and cannot get back on track since then, 4 years ago…
I don’t need a miracle, I wish I could be given a second chance to put my life back on trackSeptember 23, 2016 at 9:26 am #116001AnonymousGuestDear cherryblossom:
I regret you feel the distress you’ve been feeling for so long, the distress that caused you to lose all the weight you lost and suffer as you have.
At the beginning of your thread you wrote: “I need you to give me some advise of making magic or miracles happen”
I don’t believe in magic, cherryblossom. I used to believe in magic when I was a child. I prayed to the stars many nights but my prayers were not answered. No matter how intensely I suffered- and I did- no matter how sincerely and desperately I prayed for help, there was no help for me: no help, no magic and no miracle.
You wrote in your original post that you “also feel, that right now my outcome does not depend on me. I have this feeling that at this particular moment my fate is being decided on a higher level, and there is no much difference whether I do something or I don’t.” I am not that “higher level”- so what can I do?
There are things in our life circumstances that we cannot change and there are things that we can change. Regarding the things we cannot change, there is no “higher level” that will change it for us. We must accept those things or suffer.
I wrote to you in my first post to you on this thread that I believe the “miracle” you need and needed all along was to be assertive. This is the lesson to be learned yet. For as long as you feel there is absolutely nothing you can do to better your life, then you didn’t learn the lesson yet.
When you experience distress as you do now- and as you did on your previous job before going to HR- when you begin feeling distress, it is time to evaluate the situation and decide on the best course of action. If you put your hope in a “higher level”- be it a manager or god- you have little chance to fix your situation.
The more you see yourself as the Higher Level in your own life, the better your life will be in almost all circumstances.
anita
September 23, 2016 at 7:33 pm #116090AnonymousInactiveDear anita,
Did you selectively miss my post where I wrote that the miracle part was a figurative speech? Or the last part that I don’t need an actual miracle but a real second chance? Do you seriously think that I imagine miracles and magic spell after the thorough analysis of the consequences of my actions and the actions of other?? Do you not see that the world of wage labor is totally collapsing worldwide and it is getting harder and harder to get hired, waiting for months, do you not follow such newsletters?
If you pretend to be the community psychologist… I wish no one to experience workplace harassment and SHAME on people who say that the victims of harasment or any kind of abuse “deserve” or “let it happen” or “aren’t assertive enough”.
In fact I am PROUD of the way and time frames I handled my behaviour during the bullying period and was surprisingly flexible in recovery according to the therapist I saw then. DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COMMIT SUICIDE IN SUCH SITUATIONS???
Do you know that when you are out of this there are not only health consequences but also consequences to your professional life and your reputation as BAD employee which are much harder to beat than the normal competition for jobs???
If you are a fan of modenr psychotherapy that puts all responsibility in the person for absolutely all events in their life, well that’s a beautiful thought but as much as unrealistic as “making miracles” happen. I’m sorry but only a maniac can think that they can “assert” events in their life or other people. Yes I can establish the boundary when invaded and take what I want and belongs to me. See me assert to your unempathetic and impractical lack of advise post.
Is there a thread that you allow someone else to be the lead advisor?September 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm #116093AnonymousInactiveIn fact I want to see you being assertive in my situation, not just directing from your computer desk.
How dare you quote me selectively and interpret out of context my own words just to polish your forum ego.
September 23, 2016 at 7:57 pm #116097AnonymousGuestSeptember 23, 2016
Cherryblossom: I will not address you or respond to anything you post. Please do not address me or respond to my posts.
anitaSeptember 23, 2016 at 9:13 pm #116103AnonymousInactivePlease.
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