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March 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm #99498anxiousangelParticipant
dear anita
thanx fr all ur support and analysis.
i nvr knew this need of not being hurt changed into need for praise and approval and then transformed for need for power.
its a valid point and makes sense. i m pondering over it.
but hw it works in my brain is that, in any social situation i assess what it is the near idea role to be played or expected and somehow play it using whatever i have got to earn approval,praise and not likely to b judged adversely in the situation. i must look good and be liked.however i want to change it. today when i was thinking about let authenticity set in my daily life, i again got struck by the goal loop. i need to develop a product, a great product(career wise) and that would take a decision. that would be based on a future outcome. that will determine my happiness and my social standing in life. we do need to make a mark in this world, stand out and be counted as significant. but this very idea of future as a point of happiness and present as a means to get there, is against the recently acquired spiritual understanding. what shut i do.
am i using this spirituality argument to hide from fear of failure or shy from hardwork of developing a product. is my spiritualism an escape as i cannot compete in the cut throat competition of the material world. this doubt occupied my day.
i concede that i have been a manipulator deep inside, but again thats how the world works. where hostile egos compete for success here, somehow you need to get your way out without causing much discord or conflict. i want to change this.
had u been me.. what would have u done..
figured out ur goals in line with authentic self… or develop a product and raise ur standards… or leave this ego centric mirage chasing world and accept ur self and search for peace.. or delve into ur real self and try to eradicate the false self.
i again thank u fr ur kind endeavours. don’t judge me because i turned out this way. i just went with the flow. but my thinking is still about comparisons, making it, judging people and attributes and somehow avoiding disapproval. how do i choose a side and stick to it. right now i feel pulled in all directions.
there is fear,ambition,search for peace, stubborn inherent needs, responsibilities, a lot of competing arguments and fell torn between them. ur voice of reason brings some peace and a direction. need further opinions from you.
March 19, 2016 at 12:27 pm #99499AnonymousGuestDear anxiousangel:
You wrote: “we do need to make a mark in this world, stand out and be counted as significant.” I disagree. We need to survive, make a living. We don’t need to make a mark in the world or to stand out. And this is my point which I wrote to you at the beginning of my last post to you: in your original home, as a young boy, you were not made to feel worthy, valuable. This is why you look for that feeling so desperately.
As a young boy you were already worthy and valuable and you knew it then. Then it was taken away from you. And you started looking for it in a future point when your potential as a worthy individual will materialize in the form of social status, recognition, praise, power and money.
The point of “spirituality” is to go back in time and realize that you were born valuable and worthy, loving and lovable.
And then, choosing a job or a career and everything else is not infused with the search for that inherent value and worth that you already possess.
Please separate the two: inherent worth and making a living, two different things. Once these are separate in your mind, life would be easier, because in reality, these things are separate and when our thinking and feeling is aligned with reality, we do well.
Marketing vs the product. I didn’t think it through when I first introduced the concept to you. As I wrote to you, my thinking about your sharing developed over time. The product, you, is inherently worthy, valuable, loving and lovable. No need to sell it. Just BE it.
As far as making a living, a product can be any practical skill and hard work, perseverance, time, patience is required to develop many skills. This is for the purpose of making a living.
As far as judging you: I have lied to people too. I also hurt other people, used other people- I am not superior to you, Angel. I no longer do these things, and healing is an ongoing process. It is all about progress, not perfection. Let’s continue to correspond.
anita
March 19, 2016 at 1:01 pm #99500anxiousangelParticipantlooking for that separation..change in world view. but there is fear,ambition,search for peace, stubborn inherent needs, responsibilities, a lot of competing arguments and fell torn between them.
hope i gain a stable consciousness and a true perspective.
March 19, 2016 at 1:25 pm #99501AnonymousGuestDear anxiousangel:
An anxious angel is a fearful angel. Fear makes thinking very difficult and certain understandings, impossible.
When you get to a (temporary) state of calm, when fear takes a little break, re-read, re-think. And when you are fearful again, stop. Get calm again.
anita
March 19, 2016 at 1:30 pm #99504anxiousangelParticipanti kno the battle is mine and i will have to find my way… but really kind of u to help me so much all along.
it was a complex layered story and u deciphered it brilliantly. bless you anita.
March 19, 2016 at 7:37 pm #99525AnonymousGuestDear anxiousangel:
You are welcome and thank you for your appreciation.
Till your next post, take care:
anita
September 22, 2017 at 1:32 pm #169907anxiousangelParticipanthi anita…remember me
September 23, 2017 at 7:59 am #169941AnonymousGuestDear anxiousangel:
Welcome back to your thread! How are you?
anita
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