Hi for the last time

Of course the purpose of the Great Awakening is to isolate you from the world you know from the day you were born and that is the hardest part of it , being alone physically but not alone for the unseen.

To me it was quite easy as the world around me did their best to stab my back hundred of times , yes they did  a hell of a great job THANKS TO THEM.  No matter how much I would feel lonely I would not go back the old ways just to simply satisfy my need of closeness with other  or  tolerate wrong when it no longer matches my beliefs.

”If this is an awakening, then it is unspeakably cruel on the likes of us.” I wont even comment that cause I might say more crap but I am sure you will find someone to talk about it anyway.

I can offer you another code for your tummy problems I think it might be a solar plexus chakra ( 80 03 011  to optimize and balance the energy of the third chakra- solar plexus ) you may  try or not to google it for more information and see if it resonates with your symptoms.

56  51  521 * to cleanse and balance the chakras , to open and heal them at once

God bless you

Best regards gr8

Dear Tannhauser:

A few days ago I found an amazingly long and informative entry by Wikipedia on “Kundalini”. I don’t think it existed last year when you started this thread because I googled it and I think Wikipedia had nothing much on it. As I read much of the entry I recognized the symptoms and experiences you described since last year in the entry- seems to me all your physical and emotional experiences are listed there. Would you like to examine this entry/ my and your thoughts about it?

anita

Dear Tannhauser:

Oct 19, 1936 in a lecture “The Concept of the Collective Unconscious, London”, Carl Jung said: “My thesis then, is as follows: in addition to our immediate consciousness, which is of a thoroughly personal nature… there exists a second psychic system of a collective, universal, and impersonal nature which is identical in all individuals. This collective unconscious does not develop individually but is inherited. It consists of pre-existing forms, the archetypes…”

He wrote about the collective unconscious: “It is the mind of our ancestors, their way of thinking and feeling, their way of experiencing life and the world gods and men. The existence of these archaic strata is presumably the source of man’s beliefs in reincarnation and in memories of ‘previous experiences’. Just as the human body is a museum, so to speak, of its phylogenic history, so too is the psyche.”

In Wikipedia’s entry on Jung’s Collective Unconscious, it reads: “Jung also distinguished the collective unconscious and collective consciousness, between which lay ‘an almost unbridgeable gulf over which the subject finds himself suspended’. According to Jung, collective consciousness offered only generalizations, simplistic ideas, and the fashionable ideologies of the age.”

Jung wrote: “Organized religion, exemplified by the Catholic Church, lies more with the collective consciousness; but, through its all encompassing dogma it channels and molds the images which inevitably pass from the collective unconscious into the minds of people”

In Wiki’s entry on Kundalini, it reads: “Kundalini can also awaken spontaneously, for no obvious reason or triggered by intense personal experiences such as accidents, near death experiences, childbirth, emotional trauma, extreme mental stress, and so on…A spontaneous awakening in one who is unprepared or without the assistance of a good teacher can result in an experience which has been termed as ‘Kundalini crisis’… The symptoms are said to resemble those of Kundalini awakening but are experiences as unpleasant, overwhelming or out of control.”

This is my understanding of your Kundalini Experience (Horror, as you termed it), Tannhauser. Please let me know where I am incorrect in my understanding and please do correct me:

Unlike Carl Jung (and others) who deliberately evoked and encouraged Kundalini (It reads in Wiki: “From December 1913 onward, he carried on in the same procedure: deliberately evoking a fantasy in a waking state..), you began experiencing Kundalini (and still do) without deliberation. You did not want this, you wrote again and again. It spontaneously happened to you, triggered possibly by health problems, a great physical and mental distress.

Your experience, as was Jung’s, was about leaving the realm of  your “immediate consciousness, which is of a thoroughly personal nature” and entering the realm of “a second psychic system of a collective, universal, and impersonal nature”- you entered the Collective Unconscious. As you did, the “collective consciousness”, that is, the “fashionable ideologies of the age”, as in existing monotheistic religions, disintegrated. An “unbridgeable gulf” occurred in your mind between the teachings of the Catholic Church and the collective unconscious you became aware of.

This unbridgeable gulf created much distress in you, as it created great distance between you and the church, the priest you approached and your family.

Roman gods take center place in your Kundalini experience, in your tapping into the collective unconscious.

You don’t know the purpose of your Kundalini experience. Your experience of it is extremely painful, distressing. You didn’t want it and you still don’t want it.

Before I proceed, if I do, I need to verify if I understood correctly and what of my understanding is incorrect or needs to be modified, elaborated upon etc. ?

anita

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Dear Tannhauser:

I would like to take more time reading your last post than I currently have, and pay more attention to it than I am capable of at the moment, and so,  will read and reply in about 10 hours from now.

anita

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Post # 1

Dear Tannhauser:

This post is about me trying to understand your post of April 30, 2017. I will be paraphrasing your post so to process the information you presented, to understand it as thoroughly as I can. The quotes, ” “, are all quotes of what you wrote in that post. In parentheses and following the “*” are what I read in Wikipedia). Following this first post I will take a break before Post # 2, to follow. If you read this in between my two posts, and want to reply, please do.

Your Kundalini experience started in 2013, shortly after you took new medication. The entity (“The Universe” or “God”)that chose to give you (or inflict upon you) this Kundalini Awakening, chose that time so to cause people to attribute the symptoms of Kundalini to side effects of the new medication. The entity is devious (“The Universe/God is very clever. Perhaps I should say, devious”), that is dishonest or indirect, deceitful. It wants people to easily choose to NOT believe what is really happening to you (“to preserve their free will. Their right not to know”).

A few months later you had a mental vision of a concerned looking Jesus Christ (the last Christian-related spiritual experience in this Kundalini experience, a farewell of sorts).

A year later, the Greco-Roman gods spiritual experiences started, with Bacchus/Dionysus. A year later I had another experience which pointed to the Greco-Roman god Dionysus/Bacchus.

* Dionysus is the god of the grape harvest, winemaking and wine, of ritual madness, fertility, theatre and religious ecstasy in ancient Greek religion and myth. He is also known as Bachhus, the name adopted by the Romans.)

Dionysus is akin to Kali, a Hindu goddess. Kali can be nice or horrible

*The most common depiction of Kali shows her with four arms and hands, showing aspects of creation and destruction. The two right hands are often held out in blessing, one in a mudra saying ‘fear not’, the other offering conferring oons. Her left hands hold a severe head and blood covered sword. The swerod severs the bondage of ignorance and ego, represented by the severe head.

If a human fights against Kali, she will be horrible to the person and drive him/her insane.

The Black Madonna (statues, mostly made of wood, occasionally of stone, especially those created in Poland in the medieval period or earlier, where the Virgin Mary and baby Jesus are depicted with dark skin). Unlike some priests’ suggested interpretation, that those statues were stained black by candle smoke, you, Tannhauser, found out through the supernatural, that they were deliberately created dark because they do not depict Mary and Jesus but the Goddess giving birth to an initiate.

This is a secret, a dark, occultic secret that you found out through this Kundalini experience. Unlike the priests’ suggested interpretation (the dogma), what you, Tannhauser came to see regarding the Black Madonna, is “a wonderful universal nature or truth which runs through all religions and beliefs, but the dogma gets in the way.”

After Bacchus/Dionysus there came Tammuz, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (a human, a monk, who among other things was accused of meddling with matters that did not concern him), and the and the Knights Templars (humans, Templar knights, the most skilled fighting units of the Crusades, wearing distinctive white mantles with a red cross), King Arthur, the Rosicrucians a bit of King Arthur and the Rosicrucians (a cultural movement in Europe in the early 17th century. Its mysterious doctrine is allegedly built on ‘esoteric truths of the ancient past’, which ‘concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm’), Odin, Freya (god and goddess in Norse mythology), Neptune (Roman god of the sea), Vesta (Roman goddess of the hearth and home), and Portunus (an ancient Roman god of keys, doors, livestock and ports)of keys, doors, livestock and ports).

There have been no more references to gods and goddesses since August 2016. Since that time you did see the face of a green man in a tree and lots f hares and rabbits outside of Easter.

You wrote that you are getting the message that “what we dismiss as myths or fairy tales actually contain great spiritual truths in them.”

And you wrote: “I could have spent weeks researching all these things but I had to stop myself because it was like disappearing down a rabbit hole.”

Then you wrote that you think that what is causing you a lot of harm is your own ego. You wrote that Kundalini could have been full of wonder for you, an enjoyable experience where you could be “just enjoying the ride”, if you trusted the “Great Spirit”; if your ego didn’t spoil it.

You wrote that your ego is about fear and self condemnation.

You believe that your Kundalini experience/ awakening was planned before you were born and is sending these energies into your head, some forty years after your birth. These energies are expanding your consciousness.

You wrote that your hero is William Blake.

* 1757-1827, English poet, painter, and printmaker. Largely unrecognized during his lifetime. His work contains ‘so-called prophetic works’. He was considered mad by contemporaries for his views. He was hostile to the Church of England and to almost all forms of organized religion.

You wrote that Blake didn’t care if he didn’t fit the mold. He wasn’t bothered that people labeled him insane. He did what he wanted to do, what made him happy. Another hero, King Ludwig 3rd of Bavaria, did his own thing even though society called him a nutcase and he build wonderful dream castles.

You ended that post with: “You have to do your own thing in life if you want to be happy and you have to speak YOUR truth.”

anita