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  • #159754
    Louise
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    I’m preparing to leave my husband. We’ve been married 3 and a half years, together 5 and a half but for most of that, one or the other of us has been away (military). Since my husband has been at home more often – pretty much every weekend since March 2016, I’ve come to realise he’s not the person I thought he was and I really don’t like that person I’ve now met.

    He’s always angry – everything has an undercurrent of aggression/frustration – the ‘fat bitch’ today who was just getting out of her car on a narrow road meaning we had to wait 2 seconds to overtake, the TV guide when it goes down, his phone when it doesn’t do what he wants… he has tantrums in public and private – picking up our shopping trolley and banging it into the floor for example because he can’t find a product. He’ll say I’m not angry, you’re making me angry or I’ll lose my temper if x happens and then it’s not my fault what happens.

    He is intolerant of others – other races, women, other politics, generally anyone who thinks or behaves differently to what he thinks is right. No matter how small. And he will get angry about it even if it has no impact on him.

    And he takes no accountability for himself. When he makes a decision, he never thinks to consider the people around him or consult those it effects. And if you ever comment about the consequences of those decisions, no matter how cautiously, he loses that temper – shouting, swearing. For example, I have a step daughter – he only told her about me last year. But sometimes we bump into them locally – he walks off to them leaving me stood like a lemon. I try to hide how upset things like that makes me but sometimes it gets to me and I need some time alone to cry for 5 minutes. In the past, back at home, he has ripped the duvet off my face, yelled, sworn at me, asked what the f do I have to feel sad about. He regularly comes home hours after he says he will or this Christmas not at all with no text or call and doesn’t understand why it’s a problem. And he expects life to be organised for him – he never books anything, he won’t check the film times, I booked his stag do (“I don’t know what to do”), he wants to go on a day out but he has no ideas – “have you looked? What are we going to do?” That sounds so trivial but I’m always the adult – I can’t have a bad day or be the one that gets to relax and let someone else take over for a while.

    For 3 years he has said we will start a family at this point, that point – we get there and he’s changed his mind. I’m 37 soon, I don’t have years left and he said he wanted more kids. Likewise with moving house – I have a two hour commute, he lives away in the week and travels for 20 minutes. He really wants to move but there’s always a reason to wait. I’m moved 100 miles to be with him, changed my job, rarely see my friends from home but he won’t move 20. It’s always anything you want – as long as it’s what he wants.

    But still part of me is so nervous about leaving. I’m worried I’ll regret it. Even reading back what I’ve written. It’s such a big step to end a marriage. Even if no one replies, I just needed to write it down, to see it in black and white on the internet to remind myself why I’m not sticking around. Sorry it’s such a long post. I’m really torn right now. Am I going mad?

    #159810
    Marie
    Participant

    Leave him! He does not respect you as a woman and as a wife. You should a legal council in your situation. You must be needed help and you need to burst out what you feel.

    #159874
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Clearly, you don’t like this man and he treats you unkindly. Better not have children with a man who you dislike. And a man who treats you unkindly, at times abusively, may very well treat his children that way. The very witnessing of a bad marriage between the parents will harm a child. So yes, better end this marriage now, is my input, just like you are preparing to do.

    You wrote: “He’s always angry – everything has an undercurrent of aggression/frustration”- again, I am thinking of how sensitive children are and what harm his ongoing anger and aggression will bring upon a child. It harms your own well-being, an adult. It would harm a child much more.

    “He’ll say I’m not angry, you’re making me angry”- not taking responsibility for his anger, blaming other people and circumstances, means he is not open to examine himself and possibly change.

    “he never thinks to consider the people around him or consult those it effects” – this makes a healthy relationship  with anyone an impossibility.

    You wrote: “For 3 years he has said we will start a family at this point, that point…I’m 37 soon, I don’t have years left”- better never to have children than to have children set for a life of anxiety and distress. Better leave this marriage as soon as possible, this will maximize your chances to meet someone else suitable to be a father; suitable not only biologically, but emotionally.

    “But still part of me is so nervous about leaving. I’m worried I’ll regret it.”-

    what could you possibly regret?

    anita

    #159878
    Louise
    Participant

    Thanks so much both. I should have said in my original post, I absolutely have no intention of having children with him anymore – as you rightly state Anita, it would be the wrong step on all levels! It’s more the hurt and disappointments that past actions have left behind.

    I think I’m struggling with guilt at putting my needs first rather than his. I needed to put it down and see it in print, I think that helps to view it differently – you know how they say try and hunk what you’d say if it was a friend coming to you about it?

    I really appreciate the opportunity to vent.

    #159892
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Vent anytime you’d like. Clearly this is the right choice for you, to end this relationship. Regarding your guilt about putting your needs first rather than his- too  bad you feel this guilt. It is your job and your responsibility to attend to your needs first!

    (I wonder about the origin of your guilt)

    Relationships should be Win-Win: your needs being met and his. It shouldn’t be his needs or yours.

    anita

    #160770
    Lucy
    Participant

    Dear Louise,

     

    This man is an energy sucker. We all have them in our lives. Some of the energy suckers in my life are family, which makes it hard to not let this affect me. I think it was Oprah who said “When someone isn’t taking responsibility for their own energy, then we have to take responsibility for the negative energy we allow in our space.”

    If he isn’t going to acknowledge his issues, let alone change them, then the longer you stay, the more painful this process will become. Trust me when I say you will feel liberated for taking control of your life and not allowing other people to bring you down. You deserve happiness! And only you can create it.

     

    #161362
    Louise
    Participant

    Thanks Lucy. I think that’s part of the issue for me – he won’t acknowledge any issues. It will feel like a shock when I tell him even though we argue about these things regularly. Each time it is as if it is the first time the problem has been raised – every time. I know I can’t change our relationship alone but I’m the only who is willing to acknowledge changes need to be made.

    He is away for 2 weeks and I’m taking this time to move my personal items from the house. Not the way I would like to do it but the best way for me as he won’t be there raging. I’m dreading telling him but excited about what happens once it’s done and life starts again.

    Anita, in terms of the guilt – and how I’ve got to a point where I have accepted this behaviour for so long, I’m working on that!

    #161597
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Share your work on your guilt, if you’d like. I like you being “excited about what happens once it’s done and life starts again”!

    anita

    #162980
    Louise
    Participant

    Well, as an update – I’ve just spent my last night in the house. I’m here with a van, I’ve already removed 4 car loads of my things, the van is for the last bits. My husband is away with work but returns tomorrow and I will tell him then. I am also seeing a solicitor tomorrow morning.

    In terms of guilt, I did an interesting exercise of life mapping as part of a course I am completing. I realised how many times I have felt left out or rejected as a child in social relationships, after changing schools when I was 8. This led to me settling in relationships for men that would have me, regardless of whether or not I wanted them – I convinced myself I did out of relief -“see, you’re not going to end up alone!” I’ve spent my adult life people pleasing after falling into a pattern of trying to make people like me as a child. Tomorrow will be the ultimate exercise in NOT people pleasing which is, I think, why it feels so uncomfortable.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by Louise.
    #162998
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Congratulations for doing the right thing for you!

    Even though you understand that people pleasing, that is, pleasing people at your expense, is an ineffective behavior, harmful to yourself, there is a feeling of safety attached to this behavior. This is why it started, this people pleasing, to avoid the danger of rejection, to feel safe. Thing is, that safe feeling is in this case not congruent with reality. In reality, when you people-please an abusive person, you are not safe.

    But because the feeling of safety is attached to people pleasing, it feels unsafe to stop people pleasing, therefore you feel uncomfortable (your last few words).

    I hope you remember this point while you feel uncomfortable, so that you keep practicing being selective as who you choose into your life and be assertive with those you do choose. Feeling unsafe, in this case, does not mean that you are unsafe: it only feels this way. Over time of persistence with this new practice, you will feel comfortable.

    I hope you post again with an update about your moving situation and otherwise.

    anita

    #166816
    Feefee
    Participant

    Louise? How did it go? I too stayed in a relationship way longer than I should have because I felt guilty like I would be pulling the rug out from under him. Truth is he did not deserve my consideration. He too would act like he was hearing my concerns for the first time even though I complained about the same things all the time. Then after I have expressed my hurt over some disrespectful treatment or the other he would look straight at me and say “I don’t know what you’re talking about”. He would constantly accuse me of betrayal ( when all along he was the one sleeping around, I came to find out). Years later I realize that he is mentally unstable. Long story short, after my years of sticking around he left me for another woman in another country, abandoning his kids and responsibilities without a word. I pity her because this man is a psychopath.

    Sorry to to have veered off into my own tale. I’m really interested to know how things turned out for you.

    #170847
    Louise
    Participant

    Well an update. I left. As I told him he started to drink vodka from a pint glass and after about 20 minutes of talking put his fist through a mirror – my exit time…he went straight for the I know I’ve been bad but I can’t help it, it’s not my fault line. I understand mental health issues, it is part of my job to do so – but he is fully aware of his behaviours and makes no effort to seek help or to listen to other view points. He chooses when to behave inappropriately and when not.

    Texting me descriptions of how things could be if I’d only come back no longer washes. I’m hoping he is starting to come to terms with it now – it was a shock and he’s not as far along the process as me.

    thank you all for your advice and support. I’m happier than I have been in a very long time and putting my life back together!

    #170885
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Louise:

    Congratulations for leaving!

    His response, to  put  “his fist through a mirror”, that was quite predictable and so were his “I know I’ve been bad but I can’t help it, it’s not my fault line”-

    You did the right thing. You are indeed “Moving On” (title of your thread).

    anita

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