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November 22, 2022 at 10:12 am #410530
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GuestDear D:
Welcome to Tiny Buddha! To understand better, it helps me to retell a member’s story, with quotes, so this is what I’ll do here: you shared that you have “pretty intense and deep emotions“, been together with your partner and father of your children (“a man of incredible patience and love… easy going and has a stable base level“) for 11 years.
You went shopping in 2019, saw a man working there and “immediately felt a form of recognition… soul recognition“. Whenever you went shopping you “always felt excited just to see him“, but indifferent if you didn’t see him. One day in 2021- while you and your partner went through “a very difficult time and were contemplating breaking up“, and while practicing the Law of Positive Attraction so to save your relationship- “all high from positive affirmation and meditation“, you went shopping. For the first time, the man working there tried to approach you, and you quickly “freaked out and left” the store. A couple of days later, you dreamed about him and after waking up from the dream, you came across “a dead blind snake in a knot“, which looked like the infinity symbol.
More dreams followedĀ where this man was your twin who had “the same type of parent dynamics” as yours. You “became obsessed” with this man, a man you “don’t even know” and “never spoke to“. You tried to get hypnotized so to regress to past lives, but the person who tried and failed to hypnotized you told you that “itās a thought form, and basically that this is all in my head ”
You wrote: “I felt insane, I felt love, I felt grief regret ashamed. and I felt like the most horrible partner and person… I feel lost and pain… a part of me feels crushed… My whole world feels to have crumbled. Where I also feel my partner deserves someone who has the same amount of love for him as he does for me“,Ā and asked: “I just want to know how to get back to myself and my life after this. any advice or similar experience would truly assist“-
– This is what I think this is most likely about (the boldfaced are your words): a woman with high moral values (fidelity, faithfulness) who also has pretty intense and deep emotionsĀ got bored with the same easy going, stable base level partner of 11 years, and for some time before 2019,Ā needed a way Out of the bland emotional experience (no positive excitement) of the marriage. This image of the man in the store provided that Out, but not without an emotional price of grief, shame and guilt.
Before I try to answer your question, I need to ask you: do you think that I may be understanding your story correctly?
anita
November 22, 2022 at 10:41 am #410532Anonymous
InactiveHey Anita.
ThanksĀ for your message. I agree that you are..Ā Worrisome what repressed boredom can create. Looking forward to your input.
November 22, 2022 at 10:46 am #410533Anonymous
GuestDear D:
I just figured that I need to ask you another before I can answer: the difficulties in your marriage, what are the causes of these difficulties (I doubt it is nothing but boredom, although it is possible)? Also, if there is anything relevant that you should add to the story, please do.
anita
November 22, 2022 at 11:44 am #410538Anonymous
InactiveHey Anita.
I will respond to you soon. It’s night time here and will add more information tomorrow morning my time (about 10pm this side currently)
Thanks again.š» you have already help me reflect more on things
November 22, 2022 at 11:50 am #410539Anonymous
GuestYou are welcome, D. You are 10 hours ahead of me; have a good night, will talk tomorrow!
anita
November 23, 2022 at 10:07 am #410592Anonymous
GuestDear D:
I wanted to reply without additional information. You wrote yesterday: “Worrisome what repressed boredom can create. Looking forward to your input“-Ā you referred to boredom in the context of your 11-year-long relationship.
In your original post, you wrote: “I am a mother and a partner to a man of incredible patience and love. we have been together for 11 years and obviously, like most relationships, it hasnāt been easy… Where he is easygoing and has a stable base level, I have pretty intense and deep emotions…I also feel my partner deserves someone who has the same amount of love for him as he does for me”-
–what is love? I think of it (in the context of romantic love) as 2 people being incredibly patient and easy going with each other, focusing on creating and maintaining a trustworthy,Ā stable relationship. But I am older than you and far removed from fairytales and raging hormones: I am okay with being content, I don’t want an exciting roller coaster ride.
But I understand, and I remember the Promise Of Youth (POY, I’ll call it): that happiness-ever-after promise at the end of fairy tale books. Similar to the biblical promise of the return to Paradise Earth aka heaven where there is no pain, no boredom, nothing but… happiness ever after. I am visualizing a child running in an open field of green grass, under the warm, pleasant sun and clear, blue skies… running because there is a promise at the end of the run: how intoxicating it feels to run toward it. Do you relate?
That intoxication has biological objectives in humans and in other animals: to motivate us to hunt and gather food and mate so to survive as individuals and as species. This intoxication is not meant to be permanent or a forever-state of mind and body. But because humans, unlike other animals, can imagine a forever, we also imagine a forever-after happiness and excitement.
Maybe your partner is okay with life being content (?) Maybe, for him, love is different than what it means to you.
anita
November 23, 2022 at 1:28 pm #410603Anonymous
InactiveHey Anita
Sorry for my late reply, it has been a very busy day this side and a day of reflection. I would agree for my partner being content is ok. We are from very different backgrounds. I was thinking today about bordem and went into some research. When it comes to my views on romance, I actually never liked romantic movies because for me it just don’t exist(even tho a part of me is inlove with that idea)Relationships are work and servers as a mirror, growth and support. Hence those dreams and feelings that came after that dude was so intense. And not that I thought it would be like a romantic novel lol but more the missing pieces of my own struggles would be mirrored by him. So maybe I craved a different reflection of sorts, a different experiences.Ā My current relationship started when I was 18 and my partner is 8 years older than me, but I didn’t have a “normal” young teen experience and was already working and at bars by 16š. But our relationship had substances issues nothing hard-core but a big part of our fun times was on weed and alchole. And when I became pregnant that all changed and I quite everything.Ā And that was the first time I actually dealt with my emotions in a very long time. My son is a teacher in so many way for me..Ā ButĀ when I became sober, I wasn’t the same person anymore. I realized my toxic habit of people pleasing and how I have over write who I was to fit the mold for others and my partner. The relationship had a codependent nature to it. But we have become aware of it and have been working on it for sometime now. Things I guess I would say was issues and still does play a role is that his family never really liked me because of my lack of conformity and being into things which they would see as “bad”(esotericĀ beliefs, they are religious). They tolerate me but i keep a big part of who i am hidden.His friends also had issues with me. So felt i always needed to stand my ground and that I just wasn’t good enought even tho I really tried to fit in. Me not fitting in wasnt because of a lack of empathy but just being different. But realized how this relationship and everything that came with it was me recreating my childhood where I felt misunderstood.Ā I mean esoteric alternative woman living in a small religious town is like just a bad match lol. My partner loves me for me and has mentioned this is the deepest relationship he has had with anyone. But because of me being who I am, it has caused him to abandon his friends to be with me. And I feel that holds him back and that holds me back. I’mĀ a one on one type of person, he does better in groups but again because of the lack of compatibility even tho there is love and commitment it still has caused issues. I hope this gives you more insight šĀ and thanks again for your time and energy.Ā It already has helped me go deeper.Ā Sorry if there is any spell mistakes. I’m on my phone and it’s soo late. Have a good day.
D
November 23, 2022 at 7:35 pm #410628Anonymous
GuestDear D: I will read and reply in the morning (in about 12 hours from now).
anita
November 24, 2022 at 2:29 pm #410673Anonymous
GuestDear D:
And I am sorry for my late reply (it is no longer morning here, but afternoon!)
“I actually never liked romantic movies because for me it just donāt exist (even tho a part of me is in love with that idea)“- do not underestimate the part that is in love with… falling in love.
“Relationships are work and serve as a mirror, growth and support“- but sometimes we want it (feeling very good within a relationship) to be easy and quick, don’t we?
“So maybe I craved a different reflection of sorts, a different experiences“- many people get bored with the same-old, same-old, even if it’s a good same-old.. and want something else, simply for hoping it will be different.
“a big part of our fun times was on weed and alcohol. And when I became pregnant that all changed and I quit everything.Ā And that was the first time I actually dealt with my emotions in a very long time… I realized my toxic habit of people pleasing“- developing healthier habits can be that exciting something different.
“My partner loves me for me and has mentioned this is the deepest relationship he has had with anyone. But because of me being who I am, it has caused him to abandon his friends to be with me“- you being who you are made it possible for him to have the deepest relationship he has ever had with anyone: this is precious!!!
anita
November 30, 2022 at 8:13 am #411001Anonymous
GuestHow are you, D?
anita
December 2, 2022 at 2:26 am #411086Anonymous
InactiveHey Anita
Sorry for only responding now.
Been hermiting. And reflecting on my current union and how bordem played a role in creating limerence. And why being in a stable relationship where your partner is really soild and a good soul, would i crave chaos instead of stability.Ā So i am just focusing onĀ gratitudeĀ and really sitting with myself and accepting things for what they are, and how to make the best of it. I know if choas was your upbringingĀ then stability would seem boring. This whole thing was just very much subconsciously driven and consciously confusing.
Thank you for your assistance.Ā I remember being much younger when I first came on tiny buddha and saw how you where always giving solid advice and assistance. And thought to myself one-day you would probably assist me too.Ā So thank you
December 2, 2022 at 9:15 am #411107Anonymous
GuestDear D:
No need to apologize for not posting earlier: any time you post is fine with me. You are welcome, and thank you for your appreciation and kind words, a pleasure to read!
“reflecting on my current union and how boredom played a role in creating limerence. And why being in a stable relationship where your partner is really solid and a good soul, would I crave chaos instead of stability“- when coming out of a chaotic childhood/ teenage years, one where we felt repressed, depressed and bored, feeling that all the happiness and excitement that life is supposed to be happened to other people, but not to us… what we crave as adults (I am talking from personal experience, generalizing) is the excitement that passed us by. I don’t think that we crave chaos; I think that we crave excitement!
“I know if chaos was your upbringing, then stability would seem boring. This whole thing was just very much subconsciously driven and consciously confusing“-Ā if chaos was your upbringing, and you were repressed and depressed, then … something in you wants to AWAKEN and be excited about life!
“I am just focusing onĀ gratitudeĀ and really sitting with myself and accepting things for what they are, and how to make the best of it“- gratitude is good, sitting with yourself is good and so is accepting things for what they are and making the best of it. But that something repressed-depressed-bored within you needs to express herself… How?
anita
December 6, 2022 at 5:11 pm #411434Anonymous
GuestIt’s been so interesting to talk with you, D. I hope to read from you again, if you feel like it, whenever you do.
anita
December 8, 2022 at 6:19 am #411497Anonymous
InactiveHey Anita.
Hope all has been well on your side. And thank you again for your advice, and guidance, and for asking the right questions.
Wanted to respond two days ago, but life got busy. I have been feeling much lighter and found more clarity in this whole situation and agree, something in me wanted to become Awake. It was never about the person. I failed to mention that I was a vanishing twin. So what I craved was a very deep connection to someone, I guess resembling what has been lost in utero. hence the dreams of twins and so on. At the end of the day, I feel these things happened because of a deep wound that has been repressed for such a long time. I knew I was a vanishing twin but never really dived deep into the psychological and Spiritual effects of it. I miss interpreted the dreams and feelings though! But life has become peaceful and i have decided to temporarily disconnect from the world and the people surrounding it(not my partner or kid).Ā All the things which I felt that person represented are things I should provide for myself, So feel i got to learn such a different part of myself. I am thankful for that person and what he (my perception of him) awakened in me and thankful for you and the tiny buddha platform… today 8/12/22 is the last full moon of the year in Gemini, which is the twins, Symbolic for me. Thanks again Anita and hoping you have a blessed season.
December 8, 2022 at 8:16 am #411499Anonymous
GuestDear D:
I am fine, thank you and you are very welcome. Good to read that you are feeling much lighter! When you say that you were a vanishing twin, you mean that you had a vanishing twin, (Wikipedia: “A vanishing twin.. is a fetus in a multi-gestation pregnancy that dies in utero and is then partially or completely reabsorbed… Vanishing twins occur in up to one of every eight multi-fetus pregnancies”), right?
“So what I craved was a very deep connection to someone, I guess resembling what has been lost in utero…Ā I knew I was a vanishing twin but never really dived deep into the psychological and Spiritual effects of it“-Ā you felt that the soul of your vanishing twin was in the man who works at the supermarket, hence the “soul recognition” that you mentioned in your original post.
You wrote earlier: “IāmĀ a one on one type of person, he (husband) does better in groups“- the thinking then is that in your mother’s uterus you had one twin, and therefore, it was a one-on-one situation and deep connection. When your twin vanished, you lost that one-on-one connection, which you’ve been craving ever since.
I think that growing up, you had superficial, group-type connections with the people in your family, and elsewhere, but you didn’t have a one-on-one deep connection with anyone, so you craved it as a child and since.
“something in me wanted to become Awake“, you wrote today – that something was.. the one-on-one connection that you had very early in your life, a connection that was lost to you.. too soon.
“Today 8/12/22Ā (Dec 8) is the last full moon of the year in Gemini, which is the twins, Symbolic for me”– Happy Full Moon Day! Post again if and whenever you would like, and may you and your family have a blessed season!
anita
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