Killing one self so other self can survive

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March 2, 2018 at 8:28 am #195635

mightyconcorde
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So, I think I have a stroke of genius. Instead of killing my self, why not hold a ritual for the self that wants so desperately to die leaving room for the woman who so desperately wants to live? Thoughts?

March 2, 2018 at 10:02 am #195681

Anonymous
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Dear mightyconcorde:

I don’t understand. Would you like to elaborate and provide details of your situation?

anita

March 2, 2018 at 12:37 pm #195703

Peter
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I’ve think it’s a wonderful realization that will take you places you have yet to imagine!

Life and death are not so much as opposites but integral aspects of the other. Life as it is.

Physiologically change is often experienced as a kind of dying especially by the ego/small s self. Often this need to change is projected outward into a suicidal wish to die. However, by creating a space to observe such thoughts, pulling back the projection and going inward most people will discover that they don’t really want to die but instead are longing to Become (but afraid). The capital S Self is always driving us to become, but we tend to try block it and dam ourselves up.

Becoming conscious of the death/life/death reality we can begin the process of learning how to enter the flow of Life (as it is) instead of fighting it.

Meditation can be a good place to start. In mediation each breath becomes an surrender to the death/life/death process that is life. Each exhalation a dying each inhalation a rebirth. Each breath a possibility of awakening… a ‘reincarnation’ if you will.

If one is really prepared to die there is no reason to fear where Life might take you… and what a ride it will be.

March 3, 2018 at 2:07 pm #195817

Eliana
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Hi Mightyconcorde,

We are all here for you, please post and let us know what is going on, and why you are feeling this way..how long have you felt like this?

March 4, 2018 at 11:23 am #195883

mightyconcorde
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Hi all, thank you for your thoughtful kindness. I see no need to “go into” what is going on other than to say I seem to be on my own path of ego death. I am thrilled to see this in my research. I have struggled with PTSD and depression since childhood (now 58) am finally working with a therapy team (6 years lol) but the work I do alone is far more beneficial. Therapy does provide guidance however. Without it, would I have discovered Eckhart Tolle? Probably… but who would I discuss his words with? So all in all, since posting, my research has led me to the 7 steps of ego death and I believe I have, on my own, reached stage 4 and I understand now the path I am on. What a thrilling ride I am on! Further thoughts and discussion appreciated!

March 4, 2018 at 9:03 pm #195909
VJ
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Hi mightyconcorde,

” I seem to be on my own path of ego death”

Would like to know what is your path of going into the death of the ego?

” I am thrilled to see this in my research”

How exactly are your research ways?

I am aware of the “shift” that happened to Eckhart when his ego dissolved several years ago. Also at times I do follow Eckhart’s teachings. So you could discuss his words here.

I guess once people know that the death of the go is the most important thing that is required in life, then one would want to know what the 7 steps are to achieve them.

~VJ
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March 5, 2018 at 9:24 am #195979

Peter
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Great work! Love to hear your thoughts as you progress.

I found that a turning point with my work on the ego came with the realization of the role ‘ego’ has in experience.

Following literal practices, I attempted to kill the ego. I wanted to live with total detachment from the ego/self… only that tended to lead to indifference and depression. I was unintentionally creating a resistance to the flow of Life.

Instead of seeking an literal ego death the practice adapted to one of symbolic ego death and its transformation. This lead to accepting the ‘ego’ place within experience.

Today I feel the ‘ego sense of I’, to which all communication of experiences relies on, is just that. The ego is the part of us that relays information about experiences, particularly when we verbalize the experience. (Try talking about experience without thinking I) It is through the ego communication that the opportunity arises allowing the unconscious to become conscious – awakening. The trap is to mistake the ego sense of ‘small s self I’ experiences as the SELF.

Instead of killing the ego the ego was befriended similarly to the befriending of the mind and body. The befriending removing resistance to the flow of Life as it is.

I do not ‘know’ what the self is, even if it exists. I do ‘know’ what it is not. The ‘I am’ is not the ego or the body, or the mind… perhaps it is the still point that observes experience of ego, body and mind… When ‘I’ sense the still point, trying to observe the observer, it just laughs at me ?
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