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January 20, 2017 at 7:50 am #125786RandyGParticipant
Hello everyone!…or anyone!
As with many websites that litter the World Wide Web I have to ask “is this the place for me”
The reason I am here is I read an interview by Karyn D. Hall PhD, author of “The Emotionally Sensitive Person” and upon reading her interview, and of course ordering her book, I was pointed into the direction of Tiny Buddha.So yep, I am a very emotionally sensitive individual, so much so that at the age of 53 I chose to live my life away from people, avoid most group gatherings, and well…..know I need to fix this problem! Now I may not come across as such behind the protection of “Social Media” platforms, but trust me, I am!
Emotional strength is easy for people that have it to say, get over it, or you need to develop “thick Skin” which lord knows I have tried. But the fact remains this ES is an integral part of me and I feel I can no sooner change it than change that very skin people ask me to thicken…..which by the way is impossible! Although I have worn it off a few times!
So quite simply……is this a place where people like me (ESer’s) can share their insight and wisdom with each other pushing for a better understanding of what we seek? Or is this a place, and please excuse me, where people come to express their struggles while looking for that magical cure, because I know it simply does not exist.
What I seek is a forum where intelligent people perplexed with emotional sensitivity can work together, in a safe and positive manor. Let’s face it folks, we’re emotionally sensitive and the last thing we need is “others” bestowing their emotional needs onto us! If I wanted that I would simply go to a bar!
Sorry to be so bold, but I’m tired! Tired of a great many things and chose not to travel a path that leads me to places I have already been and discovered it held little.
Thank you
January 20, 2017 at 8:06 am #125788AnonymousGuestDear randyg:
I would like to understand better what it is you are looking for here. You wrote: “What I seek is a forum where intelligent people perplexed with emotional sensitivity can work together, in a safe and positive manor”
What do you mean by “perplexed”- as in confused?
What does “work together” means for you?
… And what does “‘others’ bestowing their emotional needs onto” you means?
anita
January 20, 2017 at 8:52 am #125789RandyGParticipantMost certainly Anita, and thank you for asking!
My use of the word perplexed is I guess in essence meaning “confused” however there are many aspects of ES I believe I understand and yet seek clarity for others.My mentioning “working together” is simply a statement in which people contribute equally or at least try to offer both insight as well as experience, if that makes sense.
And sadly Anita, the “others” are the great many people I have come to know and worked with that suffer from a variety of “other” mental challenges and not ES. You see, as an ES person, we tend to forgo our own “mental management” when we believe “others” are in greater need….which ironically many of us believe is everyone.
ES is not depression, although depression is quite often a outcome of unmanaged ES. Nor is it RAD, ADD, ADHD, or any of the other nerological challenges faced by so many. ES is simply a highly functional nerve system that picks up on even the subtlest negitive impulse…..so you see Anita, I simply want to know if this is a forum where we can talk about ES, while allowing those facing “other” challeges to let’s say, more emotionally managed personalities to offer assistance…..I truly hope that explains it in the sincere manor in which I intended it to be?January 20, 2017 at 9:42 am #125791AnonymousGuestDear randyg:
The legal owner of this website, Lori Deschene, posted “Forum Guidelines for a Positive Space”- you can find it if you click and hold on FORUMS above, scroll down the page, it is the last post on that page. She also has a note below titled: “Who runs tiny buddha?”
I am one member here and I welcome you.
From your posts above I understand that you would like the attention you have needed for a long time, attention to your personal struggles and challenges as what you refer to an Emotionally Sensitive Person. In the past, so I understand, you have attended to other people’s problems while neglecting yourself, and observed other people doing the same.
I will definitely attend to your situation, your challenges empathetically and respectfully, not seeing those as less valid or important than any other person’s. I can make that promise regarding my interactions here with you; I cannot make this promise regarding others’ members’ interactions with you, as I have no authority over others (beyond restating Guidelines for a Positive Space).
Share anytime, and I will respond.
anita
January 20, 2017 at 1:25 pm #125822PeterParticipantYes you would be very welcome
January 20, 2017 at 4:44 pm #125829RandyGParticipantThank You Anita & Peter!
Anita, I very much appreciate your quires in my original post. Validating ones needs as well as ones intentions I feel is important if they are to become part of a “social community”. Like many ES folk, I have recently read about we often find ourselves wondering if we really belong anywhere, which rationally I know to be nothing more than a negative thought brought about by my “sensitive nature”. Still there are times when the stimulus of people sharing their stories can become so overwhelming that I personally feel responsible, even though, again rationally I know I an not.
Defining the difference between “thought” and “feeling” in a contextual aspect is easy. Where as thought is an idea or opinion produced by thinking or occurring suddenly in the mind. and feeling is an emotional state or reaction brought about by one or more of the human bodies senses (Sight, hearing, touch, taste or smell). My understanding of this, and please correct me if I am wrong, is when feelings generate an emotional thought in such a manor that these thoughts flood the mind and linger long after the stimulus (sensation) has been removed is where the story begins with ES people like my self.
Being ES, is not an illness, or a disability as much as it is a heighten sense of awareness. LOL, a so called “super power” if you will. Managing this “super power” is the challenge and I believe it needs a teacher. Although I have learned a great many things about my ES, being self taught, there are still a great many more I simply can not understand and therefore seek guidance.
My original self diagnosis pushed me toward a great many forums and even physiological therapies, however not really understanding what it was I was experiencing, I ended up in the wrong places making my ES come alive even more! So I have learned to be careful when approaching groups designed to assist people in life simply because, as an ES’er ones desire for assistance can be our Aconitum!
As there is no “illness” we are dealing with, there is no need for a cure! What I believe is required is an education in how to live a better life, a more productive life….and a more peaceful life as an ES’er. Certainly reading well crafted books is a start in understanding ES, but I am also certain, there are creative and positive experiences other ES’ers have that can be shared to assist their peers in reaching that goal of a great life……and that my Dear Anita is why I ask…..Is this a place for me?…..the answer I now believe is……It could be?….of course that’s my ES talking!
January 20, 2017 at 5:26 pm #125832AnonymousGuestDear randyg:
I think it is wise for you to be selective as to whom you associate with, online and in person. Always stay away from abusive people, online and otherwise.
My policy here, on this website, is if a member posting is clearly disrespectful (same as abusive, to one degree or another) toward me, I state so to the person and no longer interact with that person. I will address a member who is clearly disrespectful/ abusive to anyone on this site.
Protect yourself, here and everywhere else.
When you read a member’s story and you become overwhelmed, you may choose to stop reading, take a break, come back to the story later- or not. There is no requirement that you read any story (thread). You choose.
There is no requirement that you post a comment on anyone’s thread. Many members never post and only read others’ posts. Many members sign in and disappear, most do. Some return occasionally. Only a few post regularly.
I like your aim to live a better life, a more productive life.
“Is this the place for me?”- I say, for now, it is. This evening. Tomorrow. Re-evaluate later.
Regarding thoughts and feelings/ emotions (I use the two interchangeably)- these two are very much connected via neuropathways in the brain, they cross each other all the time, so a thought brings about an emotion and emotions bring about thoughts. Anxiety (excess, ongoing fear) brings about over-thinking, aiming at scanning for a problem in order to logically solve it, and so resolve the distress, the anxiety.
What is the relationship between your heightened sensitivity and anxiety, do you think?
anita
January 20, 2017 at 6:02 pm #125834RandyGParticipantBang on Anita!…Thank you!
Being selective in my (our, in reference to other ES’ers, if you’ll allow me) day to day interactions with people, real or virtual has truly become a way of life. Virtual often feeling far safer than reality.
It does however hold its surprises when suddenly we find ourselves in a place where that interaction far exceeds our ability to cope and it those times when the emotional sensations tend to overwhelm the rational thinking.
Trust me when I say, there is no place for abusive behavior in this forum or in life, for we are all people simply trying to find our way. Having people such as yourself interact with us in a safe and positive manor is exceptional indeed, and for that I thank you very much, I do however realize time, being yours, is extremely valuable and do my very best to limit my request for it. Therefore lets acknowledge that this forum is like a journal, with the intent of being able to write honest, yet positive thoughts with the possibility someone, be it yourself or others just might respond when they can, if that’s ok?LOL, trust me when I say this, I have learned all too well to protect my self, and it is that “shield of protection” I believe has gotten out of control for it no longer just protect me, it isolates me!
What do I believe is the relationship between my “HS” and “anxiety”…… two very specific behaviors of People! Please allow me to emphasis that, its the behavior of people and not people them selves for I know all too well behaviors are created by circumstances. Like clothes people wear depending on the weather outside, so to can their behaviors change depending on the environment they face. Its the behaviors of lying, cheating, hurting and falsification first and foremost trigger my “ES”. Secondary to that are those that dwell in negativity, while doing their best to pull others into that dark world.
People that hold behaviors of honesty and sincerity and caring are ones I have absolutely no anxiety with, quite the contrary I enjoy being around them, conversing with them and can spend hours with them sharing stories of life. Sadly, my perception and experience of our world is there a great many more of the first and second group than there are of the third. So, in order to be able to “mingle” I feel I need a bigger tool box!…..how that?
January 20, 2017 at 7:15 pm #125835AnonymousGuestDear randyg:
You wrote: “lets acknowledge that this forum is like a journal, with the intent of being able to write honest, yet positive thoughts with the possibility someone, be it yourself or others just might respond when they can, if that’s ok?”- do post anytime you would like. I will reply to you every time I am at the computer and see that you posted. I have no expectations regarding how often you post, or that you post every day. Whenever you post, if you post, is okay with me. You can consider this a journal for you. If another member replies here to you again, then you can address them, then address me in another note, and so forth.
“Honesty and sincerity and caring”- is what I intend to extend to you.
No need to limit your request for my time here. I am responsible to how I spend my time, and interacting with you is valuable. If I am not at the computer, I will obviously not respond. If I am at the computer and there are many threads, I may answer a few the day after, or answer with a short note.
If you don’t understand something I wrote, do ask that I explain. I will do the same. I did not understand the last line you wrote: “in order to be able to ‘mingle’ I feel I need a bigger tool box!…..how that?”-
Can you explain: mingle with people of the three groups you mentioned? People here on the website.. what tool box are you referring to?
(Will be back to the computer in about twelve hours, good night)
anita
January 20, 2017 at 7:39 pm #125836RandyGParticipantUnderstood Anita, and again thank you!
“Mingle”…..lets loom at a box of “Smarties” as a reference, there are people out there that enjoy every flavors. and there are people out there that enjoy most flavors with the exception of a few however will not neglect the others, then there are those that will only find enjoyment with one flavor.
In life there are situations when we have the choice in picking the ones we want and there are situations when we need to accept all. Work verses play for example, in a working environment, we are forced to deal with the varying “flavors” of emotional state people present even those the taste is extremely fowl to us.
In play we carefully pick the ones that please us and therefore enjoy.Having “a bigger tool box” is in reference to gaining emotional abilities or an understanding of developed skills in order to manage better our interaction with those we find challenging to our emotional sensitivity. Walking away is not a tool in this context, where as learning to rationalize the situation would be.
As an ES’er, I have come to learn the first tool I required was not just the knowledge, but the belief that being ES is not an illness or a flaw, but an asset. One that in reflection of my wild and crazy lifestyle has brought me huge success. Had it not been for my ES, I am very certain, I would not be here. Specifically I mean my nervous systems ability to react not only faster but more accurately in times of distress (not meaning in social events, but in lifestyle events), was the reason the outcome of a great many situations I found myself in turned out positive as apposed to negative.
In converse to that, although I feel I am well educated, and have gained a considerable amount of professional experience in my field of work, it is my ES that causes me problems when associating, or “mingling” with other less professional people in my work environment….
January 20, 2017 at 7:41 pm #125837RandyGParticipantOh and my apologies for misspelling, and grammatical errors, I tend to type my thoughts far to fast…..another ES trait I believe. A tool for that is called “Spell Check”…..lol
January 20, 2017 at 8:59 pm #125839VJParticipantHi randyg,
Being a HSP (which I don’t think is much different than ES) and an empath I have equipped myself with certain tools and methodologies which gives relief. I will be sharing that with you to help in your situation but would like to know if you ever have used any of the healing techniques say for eg; EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques)? Also do let me know if you have used any other ones.
Regards,
VJJanuary 20, 2017 at 10:22 pm #125840RandyGParticipantHi VJ
Thank you for joining me here.
I guess there are many ways to describe us, HSP (highly sensitive people) and ES (emotionally sensitive) in my thinking would be in the same classification, that being said, each and everyone of us are different and so regardless of the name we chose to call it, its the effect that is the most important.I do find the term “empath” fascinating, as being an empath you know all too well you are affected by other people’s “energies”. Thus this gives you an innate ability to intuitively feel and perceive others. These energies also unconsciously influence your’ desires, wishes, thoughts, and moods.
Being HPS/ES in my belief automatically gives you what would be described as “Emphatic” abilities and I would be happy to explain why I believe that to be. But can I first disclose something that I feel is important. Having travels to 31 countries on a pursuit of understanding “Beliefs” I discovered 2 major things…..One, they are extremely powerful to those that “believe” and two there are as many beliefs in this world as there are opinions. One persons or cultural belief is not necessary another’s but like opinions everybody has the right to theirs.
The reason I say this is to answer your “techniques and methodology” question….have I tried EFT, there are tribes in Africa where I visited that use different EFT’s for not just healing, but to “speak to” their deity. In Madagascar, EFT’s are believed to heal cancer and other serious aliments. In the jungles of Cambodia EFT’s are believed to ward of evil spirits and Thailand and Myanmar a form of EFT is used to bring calm and peace to ones mind by allowing the internal energy to pass from one side of the body to the other.
I am sure there are many more applications where EFT’s are used and each and every time I see the use of them and ask “why” the answer boils down to the same…..the people applying it…believe it works.
As for any other healing techniques, I am not too sure I can honestly answer that correctly as I truly believe there is nothing to heal. Now if you were to ask me if I have discovered tools to use in my defense on emotional sensitivity, well the answer would be yes, a great many. As mentioned earlier, ES people like me have, what I believe very clear indicators of their ability. One of them is when the mind races so fast, that when you close your eyes it seems as if a million pictures flash through your mind. This event is like a super computer searching for a specific topic or image without knowing what it is looking for. Controlling it takes practice but is achievable. Some might call it mediation, but it is not, for meditation allows the mind to wonder and that is the complete opposite to what I need to do. I have created an image in my mind, one that allows me to focus on it while lacking any detail. Its a flame of a candle. Not the candle, just the flame on a black back ground.
Closing my eyes, I concentrate on that flame as the barrage of images flood my mind. at first the flame is barely seen, but after a few minutes forcing it to come to the surface, all other images and thoughts vanish and I am left with only the flame. It is from there that I can then think clearly and rationally, bringing into focus my thoughts and my feelings.
But of course, I have yet to discover something I can do that would provide the same results while in a social gathering, clearly sitting in a room full of people who know nothing of ES with my eyes closed and in a trance like state would question my “sanity” in their eyes.
Oh and VJ. drinking Chicha from the jungle tribes in the Amazon to allow one to speak to the spirits……yea, messes with your thoughts in a big way!….no hang over though!
Please, do share with me your techniques as I am in constant learning!
Regards
RandyGJanuary 21, 2017 at 7:33 am #125854VJParticipantHi RandyG,
“I do find the term “empath” fascinating, as being an empath you know all too well you are affected by other people’s “energies”. Thus this gives you an innate ability to intuitively feel and perceive others.”
Yes that “empath”etic nature itself allowed me come to this site and “sense” people’s problems and offer with whatever solutions I can. Again that was one of the reasons I could deeply “sense” and understand your problems and so chimed in.
“As for any other healing techniques, I am not too sure I can honestly answer that correctly as I truly believe there is nothing to heal”
I have a slightly different opinion about this. Yes anyone being a H/ESP is not a disorder, but a personality trait. But I do feel that there is something to heal otherwise people with it wouldn’t have been on this site or any other e/hsp forum asking on what to do or how to handle the emotional or high sensitivities.I will try to apply the candle method you suggested.
I read your comments about EFT and that it being used by other people and their experiences, but didn’t find anything if you tried it and whether it worked or not. So I will add it to the below.
1. EFT (or Emotional Freedom Techniques):
Articles on EFT and vidoes on how to do it can be found all over the web.
Below is an article for HSP
(http://tap-easy.com/eft-tapping-for-highly-sensitive-person/)and the EFT Tapping scripts on this link which you can customise as per the statements that resonate with you.
(http://tap-easy.com/eft-tapping-script-highly-sensitive-person/)2. Donna Eden’s Energy Medicine Technique:
The ZipUp Technique
You can make use of the ZipUp Technique to protect your energies from external influences.
Below is a direct link to the post where I have explained the technique with an image, written steps and a video.
(http://dev.tinybuddha.com/topic/done-with-the-negative-engery-i-hope/#post-114161)Clicking the link will take you to the direct post on the entire thread.
You can read from the wordings “Here is a simple and practical energy healing technique…” on that post.3. Bach Flower Remedies:
Doing a web search on Bach Flower Remedies can explain what they are and their usage.
I used the ‘Walnut’ remedy after reading the below article.
(https://www.flowerspirit.co.uk/3-bach-flower-remedies-for-hsps/)
Among others the flower essences are available on Amazon.com—————————
At times, at home, whenever those overwhelming feelings take over, the alternate nostril breathing technique has helped. I have added it as No 2. in the below post.
(http://dev.tinybuddha.com/topic/relaxation-meditation-techniques/#post-114812)It has constantly been even my quest to find something that could be applied in a public setting.
I have used the ZipUp technique in those situations. I secretly lay my hand over my lap and visually/mentally run my hand from the pubic bone to the lip and lock them up as per the process. I do it several times. Also sometimes I do the full technique at the washroom when I felt that I don’t want to miss a chance.To minimise the sensitivities during the day in public, I used to do the energy medicine technique as a morning ritual before heading for the day and used to take the Bach remedies right from the start of the day. I had kept a bottle of drinking water at my workplace desk and once in the morning added a few drops of the flower essences into it and used to sip it at regular intervals all throughout the day. Who would know what’s in it as it is just like someone is drinking water.
I have referenced the words “used to” in the above sentences, but I have to start doing them again.
As of now these are the tips and techniques that I can share for H/ESP. If you come across any beneficial method please do share on this post as I will be doing the same.
Best wishes,
VJJanuary 21, 2017 at 8:41 am #125858AnonymousGuestDear randyg:
I re-read some of your writings and am more awake this morning to understand better:
You asked: “is this a place where people like me (ESer’s) can share their insight and wisdom with each other pushing for a better understanding of what we seek?… I simply want to know if this is a forum where we can talk about ES, while allowing those facing ‘other’ challenges to let’s say, more emotionally managed personalities to offer assistance…”.
And you explained: “ES is simply a highly functional nerve system that picks up on even the subtlest negative impulse…..Being ES, is not an illness, or a disability as much as it is a heighten sense of awareness. LOL, a so called ‘super power’ if you will. Managing this ‘super power’ is the challenge…being ES is not an illness or a flaw, but an asset. One that in reflection of my wild and crazy lifestyle has brought me huge success.”
So your goal is to share your insight and wisdom, your ‘super powers’, the fruits of your heightened sense of awareness, bringing your asset into light here and sharing the huge success such unusual and rare awareness has brought you? Is it for the purpose of helping others, finding other “ES-ers”, or is it about finding help for yourself?
anita
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