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    * Dear sugarhut: Attachment is a very powerful emotion and you are attached to this man. If you’d like to discuss this further, please do, like suggested by monklet80, start a new thread: click FORUMS, choose a CATEGORY (RELATIONSHIP, if you’d like), go down the page and type there. You can copy your post above and paste it there.
    anita

    #114714
    John
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    I am a 56 year old married man suffering from chronic depression and in an on-going state of very high anxiety. I am suffering with this situation on a daily basis and it has been going on for many years. Much of what is behind this I believe comes from the fact that I consider myself to have been in an emotionally abusive relationship for around 35 years. For me, the relationship has always been very difficult at best and has made me very unhappy. I have always wanted out for as long as I can remember and had great doubts about marrying in the first place.
    Much of the abuse took place decades ago but I am still suffering the consequences of it today. For me, the relationship went bad right at the beginning and quickly became very controlling to the point where I would agree with almost anything and everything that was asked of me, even when it was the opposite of what I wanted. This is because, for a very long time, my wife used emotional abuse and psychological aggression against me on a daily basis. For some reason this made me feel very bad and it took me a long time to recognise it for what it was. She seems to have had an overwhelming need to control me and has been prepared to go to great lengths to exercise that control. Her difficult behaviour has had a very bad effect on my mental health and I find that I am actually afraid of her and her behaviours. This fear has been with me for a very long time and is now happening even in the absence of any abuse. Clearly, the relationship is very unhealthy as I have been walking on eggshells for as long as I can remember and the control is ever-present even when the abuse is now largely absent.
    Right from the early days she displayed the characteristics of a Jekyll and Hyde personality with a mixture of nice and nasty. The abuse has typically taken the form of excessive criticism and explosive anger including yelling, screaming, temper tantrums, tears, bad moods and the silent treatment. This started before we were married and my reaction was always to apologise for upsetting her and try to appease her and calm her moods. Looking back it seems obvious now that much of this behaviour was fabricated out of nothing as she could always find some reason to give me a hard time. I have never understood what drives this within her.
    I was in my early 20ā€™s when we first and met and was exposed to this behaviour and I had never had to deal with a situation that was anything like it, or deal with any person that behaved like this towards me on an on-going and regular basis. The intensity and frequency was overwhelming and I did not know how to cope with the situation and managed it badly. It was very disturbing for me and very quickly my behaviour and personality was changed, as I tried to avoid anything that would trigger the aggression. I began to relate to her as a person, in a way that I had never interacted with anyone else.
    After much soul-searching, it is clear to me now that my behaviour has been driven by a disproportionate fear of her bad moods, which still drives things to this day. There has never been physical abuse or the destruction of property but I have always thought that she often gets to the point of being very close to crossing that boundary. I find that being around her at such times is a truly awful and very traumatic experience. I know that the fear imprinted upon me is not rational but it is also very real in the way that I am always deeply upset by it. Logic seems to not come into the analysis of the situation and I know that it is very irrational to feel this way but I cannot seem to help myself. I presume it is much the same when other people suffer from deep-rooted irrational phobias that cause panic attacks.
    Before the marriage we lived apart and would see each other at weekends or sometimes less frequently. Often we would talk on the telephone and many times she would find some reason to become very upset with me and end the call abruptly by hanging up. Invariably, I would call her back immediately to apologise for whatever was wrong and many times she would not answer the ā€˜phone. When we did meet at weekends, she would often launch into an immediate verbal attack showing her displeasure with clear signs of intense anger at something I had or hadnā€™t done. As a result of these attacks, which started very early in the relationship, my behaviour became almost totally controlled as I always tried to appease her and avoid whatever triggered the abuse.
    The control was to such an extent that we eventually married, which is something I definitely did not want to happen. It is such a long time ago that I donā€™t recall the exact circumstances of the ā€œproposalā€ but I am assured by my wife that I asked her to marry me. This could very well be true but it would have been under the duress of her controlling influence. By my recollection, marriage was clearly what she wanted at the time and I obliged by doing what was expected of me. The controlling fears had me well and truly brainwashed by this point and I knew something was very deeply wrong with our relationship and what was happening to me. Despite going along with the marriage, I am absolutely certain that I did not want to marry her as I knew I did not love her as a man should love the person he is about to marry. Marrying someone I did not love, who often behaved in emotionally abusive ways, typifies just how controlling, toxic and unbalanced the relationship had become. She had developed the ability to make me feel fearful and overly anxious and I invariably responded in ways to ease the pressures generated within me by her behaviour. I had become her compliant victim, which happened over 30 years ago. No one else has ever had the ability to influence me in anything like the same way.
    Shortly after we married and were living together things got much worse as her bad moods escalated beyond my wildest imaginations. For some reason there was constant anger directed at me. One time she locked me out of the house after she had started an argument over absolutely nothing. She seems to have no recollection of this event, which in anyoneā€™s eyes would be very memorable. Things were so bad around this time that I developed a significant health problem. The stresses were so high that my heartbeat became very irregular. The problem was checked out by a cardiac specialist and it was suggested that it was probably stress related. At the time I didnā€™t recognise the cause and did not relate it to the stresses of my marital situation. I was still in my 20ā€™s at this point in time and should have been enjoying life to the fullest. The abuse was relentless and eventually I began to realise how toxic the relationship was and realised that it always had been. What intimacy there was in the relationship was completely gone after just a short period of marriage as her behaviour was so ugly that she became very unattractive to me.
    Invariably in her eyes, there has always been some very good reason why I have been on the receiving end of her aggression. Often I have been accused of doing something to deliberately annoy her, which makes it all my fault. For example, giving Christmas or birthday presents was usually a very big problem. First there would be a look of huge disappointment followed by an interrogation as to why I bought whatever it was and would then be told how inappropriate it was. Gradually this would escalate into a full dramatic ā€œperformanceā€ with huge amounts of tears and much yelling and screaming about what a bad person I was. Eventually I would be accused of making the particular purchase as a way of deliberately annoying her. In reality I didnā€™t need to do anything to annoy her as a reason could always be found.
    Holidays were also a big problem with the tension gradually building from the outset as a predictable pattern would unfold. The bad mood and tension would escalate to around the middle of the holiday week at which point she would find a reason to start an abusive and highly venomous verbal attack with a declaration that she would never go on holiday with me ever again. Upon returning home she would often say what a good holiday we had had and I would be expected to go along with that view when asked if I enjoyed it. It was as if the ugly episode had never happened or was completely forgotten about. The reality for me was very different as it was always a nightmare, which had followed all the classical signs of the ā€œcycle of abuseā€. For many years, almost every holiday and every birthday and Christmas followed the same pattern and these are just a few examples of what must amount to hundreds if not thousands of similar events over the years. Just about every shopping trip used to be an awful experience and in the early days, hardly a day would go by without some form of abusive outburst that left me in a state of great emotional turmoil.
    One of the worst examples of her behaviour was a few years ago during a day trip to London. As usual, I didnā€™t really want to go along with her plans and would have preferred to be on my own. Naturally I complied with her wishes rather than stand up for myself. We took the short train ride to London, which was very busy and due to a simple misunderstanding and limited seating, we ended up sitting in different parts of the train. Upon arriving in London, I was subjected to the humiliating treatment, in full public view, at a very busy railway station. To say I got a dressing down would be a gross understatement. It was a truly horrible experience and she seemed to be totally out of control. Having experienced many similar situations, there was nothing that unusual in this behaviour other than it was particularly venomous. What made it especially upsetting was that it was only eight days after my fatherā€™s funeral. He had died following a long battle with cancer. I was completely devastated by the experience and this emotionally abusive episode was one of the worst I have ever encountered from her. True to form, at the end of the day she asked me if I had enjoyed our day out in London. What twisted mind would have thought that was an appropriate question? Presumably the same sick mind that thought the abusive episode was justifiable behaviour to be inflicted upon me during a period of intense grief at the loss of my father. The effect of her behaviour that day was truly horrible for me.
    The criticisms, abuse and bad moods went on for many years and at times on an almost daily basis. Any mistakes on my part would be met with an overbearing critical reaction no matter how minor the infringement. I became frightened of getting even minor things wrong and have now been afraid for most of my adult life. Occasionally, I would summon the strength to challenge her about her behaviour and attitude only to be told I was being overly sensitive and getting things out of all proportion or there would be some excuse about stress at work. She seems oblivious or uncaring about the effect she has on me and I can never recall her ever apologising for any of her appalling behaviour.
    Only recently have I tried to understand what has happened to me and discovered the impact of emotional abusive on a personā€™s wellbeing. Everything I have read on the subject describes my situation. During my search for answers, it has become clear that the reasons for her bad behaviour have often been completely fabricated and very much about control. I could never understand why anyone would behave in such a deeply disturbed way towards someone in what was supposed to be a loving relationship. During disagreements, any resistance from me would always result in escalation of the situation to the point of abusive behaviour. She has always had to win and get her own way. At times, life has been a never ending conflict over anything and everything. Eventually, I gave up and became very compliant and would reluctantly agree to whatever it was she wanted. These days, the best resistance I can manage is to drop hints that I am not keen on whatever it is she is suggesting. She never takes the hint and probably sees it as a challenge and will not let the subject drop until I give into her demands. This she then takes as my full agreement. In reality it is easier just to give in, which is a very different thing to agreement. Compliance makes life easier but is probably the worst thing I can do as it reinforces the controlling behaviour and it has created great resentment within me.
    Clearly, part of the problem is that I have always been very sensitive to her outbursts, which make me feel very bad, so I developed behaviours that tried to avoid her difficult outbursts of anger. In the early days when she started a fight I would stand up for myself but she would never back down and was always prepared to escalate things to a higher level than I would be prepared to go. She had to win all conflicts that she invariably started. Very occasionally I have tried to discuss these behavioural issues with her only to be told that I am overly sensitive and I am always questioned as to why the difficulties from years ago have any relevance to today. She seems unable to understand that her behaviour has been in anyway detrimental to the quality of our relationship and rather bizarrely seems to think we get along together reasonably well for most of the time. She attributes little significance to her overbearing manner. In reality, I no longer want to have anything to do with her and do not want to be around her. For me, the abuse from the distant past is still very relevant today as it has changed me from the person I once was to the fearful and anxious person that I am today and that I have been for decades when around her. The damage has been done to the point that I doubt I will ever get back to being the real me and the on-going relationship will always be very strained at best.
    Much of what I have read about on the motives of emotional abusers seems to focus on their overwhelming need for control. Whilst I can recognise this in my situation, I also believe her behaviour has had a lot to do with her getting some gratification or release of inner tension from the process of abusing me. Beyond that, I donā€™t know what has driven her behaviour, which is completely alien to me. At times I believe she has engineered situations to bring about a particular outcome, which in her mind then justifies the abuse. I have a strong suspicion that she would fantasise about abusing me during this tension building phase of the process. Whatever the reason, there seemed to be a strong compulsion for her to behave as she did and occasionally still does. The result is a very one sided and loveless relationship with a parent-to-child structure based on dominance and underpinned by the psychological damage done to me. Admittedly, the frequency of abuse has diminished over the years and is mostly absent these days. However, the need to control seems never to be far away and it extends to just about anything and everything no matter how big or small. Itā€™s as if the drive for control has been a never ending constant within her.
    Naturally I want to leave and have had thoughts of leaving for almost as long as we have been married, which is over 30 years. Although I want out of the relationship, I have been brainwashed to the point that I cannot seem to go through with the process of leaving. I have tried but I am stuck for reasons that I donā€™t understand other than it is associated with a deep-rooted, fear-based, psychological problem. Despite multiple attempts to leave, I have either not been able to go through with it or sustain it. I have left a couple of times but have always gone back with my tail between my legs. I believe I have developed what is known as a traumatic bond or something akin to Stockholm syndrome. I become particularly fearful and anxious with severe panic attacks when I leave or have serious intentions of leaving. The forces within me become overwhelming and I suspect that the prolonged stresses that I have lived with have resulted in something that is described these days as complex post-traumatic stress disorder. Living with my wifeā€™s angers and behaviours has always been very stressful for me and I believe it has caused the type of psychological trauma associated this disorder. To put it in laymanā€™s terms, I am seriously screwed-up by it all.
    I suspect that very few people are aware of my situation but some close relatives are familiar with her difficult behaviours and have been on the receiving end. I think that some family members sympathise with me, as they know how difficult she can be. One time a close relative told her how hard she was on me only to be told that she didnā€™t really mean it in a nasty way and that I knew as such. Clearly a complete denial of reality and very far from my experience of the way she has related to me. Also, she has had very strained relationships with other close relatives and was hardly on speaking terms with her brother for a number years and, for the last 10 years or so, she has not had anything to do with her sister. Needless to say, she blames them for these situations and seems to be completely untroubled by the obvious upset it has caused her elderly mother and Iā€™m sure her father his turning in his grave over this.
    There is another very big part to my story. Around 25 years ago I met someone to whom I was immediately attracted, in a way that I hadnā€™t experienced before. It really was love at first sight. I thought she was wonderful and after a few years of knowing her we started an intimate relationship. Time spent with her brings me great happiness and we seem to be very compatible in many ways. We get on very well and she is such a pleasure to be with. Itā€™s a very loving and caring relationship. What more could anyone wish for? It has been an on-going on-off romance for over 20 years. At times the relationship has ended for extended periods but we have always remained close and got back together many times. Throughout this time we have wanted to be together more permanently but I have never managed to break free from my marriage. Wanting to be with her is a big part of wanting to get out of my marriage but try as I might, I canā€™t seem to get away. Why I canā€™t leave my wife for someone I truly love is completely beyond my comprehension. Iā€™m very conflicted and torn apart by it. I donā€™t feel any guilt about this relationship and I am certain that it has not been the cause of my bad marital relationship. The fear of my wifeā€™s abusive behaviour pre-dates this extra-marital relationship by several years and my marriage was in a very bad state long before I even met my lover.
    I am at a total loss to understand why things are the way they are other than it is all connected to my wifeā€™s bad attitude towards me. I cannot work out why her anger makes me feel so bad. I do not have problems dealing with others who show similarly aggressive characteristics and I can clearly spot the absurdness of their behaviours. With others, itā€™s like water off a duckā€™s back. With my wife itā€™s very different and completely the opposite as I take things deeply to heart. It really is as if I am under her hurtful spell because that is what it feels like and itā€™s an explanation that fits many of my symptoms and actions. I can fully understand why some people might believe in witchcraft and evil spirits, as an explanation for such feelings and situations. Clearly this is a completely absurd idea but it summarises perfectly what I feel and is one of the best ways I can think of for articulating what I feel and what has happened to me. I am damaged by it and have been conditioned by it and it is clearly a form of brainwashing that I have experienced. My wife has done this to me or I have allowed it to happen. Either way, the outcome is the same.
    This is my life and it has been for 35 years. I am totally and utterly miserable and have been for a very long time. I am stuck in a prison without bars. No wonder I am such a mess having lived with this problem for so long. It has been such a huge burden that I seem unable to carry anymore and I am at breaking point. Iā€™m afraid of what will happen next as my head is often filled with dark and disturbing thoughts. I feel like I need to get away from my overwhelming feelings and emotions, which now seem to come over me, for no obvious reason, on a daily basis. The constant anxiety causes surges of adrenalin several times every day and my body aches all the time and is weakened by it. I doubt if I will ever recover under any circumstances. I just need to get out but canā€™t. When is this nightmare going to end? I feel completely broken.

    #122780
    Rayanne
    Participant

    I don’t even know where to begin…except for I am so happy I found this page. I recently got out of a on again off again 6 1/2 year emotionally, mentally and physically abusive relationship and am trying to remain strong in staying away from him but I some how keep finding myself going back to him.

    When he and I met 6 1/2 years ago, it was literally love at first sight. There was an instant connection the moment he and I met. We were together the entire night talking and sharing stories. We moved in together after 3 months of dating. We were so in love and so obsessed with each other. Little things started happening here and there that I just let slide and over looked because I loved him so much. I ended up kicking him out for something I honestly could’ve handled better myself, a few weeks later he moved back in. We were engaged by Christmas and I was thrilled! I forgot to mention I have a son from a previous relationship who was 2 at the time. So I was beyond excited that he would have someone to look up to as a role model since his dad isn’t the most involved.

    From 2010-2012 we broke up 3 times and he moved out each time, however we still were together. 2012 he bought a home for me and my son in the school district that I was hoping to get him into. So my son and I moved in there. 2014 I moved out because I had enough of the put downs and the constantly feeling like I wasn’t good enough, however 6 months later I moved back in. Things were great for the first 2 months. Then he started going to the bars with his friends 2-4 times a week. He and I would bicker, he’d tell me to get out of “HIS HOUSE”. I start packing and he’d lay a guilt trip on me, “are you sure this is what you want to do? You’re ok with never seeing me again?” So I’d unpack and stay. There were constant judgments from him on everything. My son was too loud, he didn’t sit still enough, he didn’t have good manners, I was told repeatedly that I was fat, lazy, disgusting, I never worked for anything in my life, I had everything handed to me, I didn’t know what real work was, sitting behind a computer typing all day isn’t a real job, I don’t do anything around the house, my mommy and daddy do everything for me. The list goes on and on. I felt I was constantly defending myself. Yes, I gained 70 pounds but a lot of it was from stress of my job working in a Legal department and the stress of the relationship so I turned to food to nurture myself. So yes, in turn with gaining that much weight I became lazy on top of being drained all the time from the arguments. I have been working since I was 14. I became a single mom at 22. I worked a part-time job at a factory. My parents helped me with my son so I could go to school, get a degree and better myself. I moved up in the company I was at, went from part-time to full-time, was promoted from factory to office from receptionist to international markets assistant to legal assistant to paralegal. I went back to school to get my paralegal studies diploma…yet I have never worked for anything in my life? Like I said, I had to constantly defend myself. There ended up being so much anger and resentment on both our parts that we just argued about everything and anything. I had not liked the person I turned into. I used to be positive, driven, focused, financially responsible, in shape. All that was gone. I was sad, depressed, negative, miserable, confused, depleted, gained 70 pounds, and accrued over $20K in credit card debt…I had lost myself. It all came to a head when he and I talked and agreed we’d work on the relationship and put it first and that he’d stop going to the bars. Well that lasted all of 5 days. That weekend he asked if he could go to the bar with his friend, I said no, so he got mad and slept in the spare room, one of his many punishments, ignoring me, avoiding me, not talking to me… The next day I thought I’d be nice and take him and my son to a motorcycle museum. As soon as we woke up that day I knew we were in for a not so fun day, he was in a “mood”. If he was in a mood it determined the whole day and how me and my son could act and talk, you know, walking on egg shells. My ex was irritated with how my son was acting. He’s 8 now and was worried about falling thru the openings in the stairs so my ex stayed mad at that. At dinner my ex wouldn’t even talk to us, he zoned out on the TV. One of the many things he’d do, zone out on the TV or his phone to avoid interacting with me and my son. My ex didn’t like a question my son asked and had told him he was “fucking stupid”. So I was pissed and told him it was uncalled for. The car ride home was a nightmare. I didn’t say a word. So he had to mock me, “oh look at me, I’ve got my bitch face on and I’m going to keep it on all day.” The next day is when all hell broke loose. I tried talking to him about what he had said to my son and then about the car ride home. He got mad and upset and left. He went to the neighbor’s to help with a fence so he was gone all day. I talked to him in the afternoon and hadn’t heard anything after that. I came home from my parents and he wasn’t home. I tried calling and calling and texting and texting and got no response. I thought to myself, “I bet he’s at the bar.” So I hop in my car and go for a ride. Sure enough, he’s at the bar. So I walk in, see him hugging on another woman…which obviously pissed me off because I wasn’t getting any sort of attention or affection from him. I ask him to come outside, we start arguing. I asked him why he was hugging that girl when he won’t hug me, his response, “why would I?” so I shoved him, he came back and punched me in the stomach, I turn around to leave and he’s pushing me to my car repeatedly. I get in my car, he tells me to take my fat ass home, I slapped him in the face and he close fist punched me in the face. So no thinking, purely reacting I called the cops. The cops come, he’s arrested for OWI and battery. That night I started moving my stuff out into my parents. This happened in September. He and I have had some contact. He tried getting a harassment restraining order against me which was dropped because there was no grounds for it. He and I have been in contact a lot since Thanksgiving and the month of December. I wanted him back, was practically begging him to take me back, just as I had begged in our relationship for him to love me and spend time with me…how pathetic. He constantly makes me feel like I am all at fault for what happened with him getting arrested. Yes, I called the cops but had he not punched me in the face I wouldn’t have had to. Had he not gone to the bar I wouldn’t have showed up there. I told him I am working on emotional control and of course that’s used against me and thrown in my face because I’m “CRAZY!”. Yet he doesn’t look at anything he’s done. Going into a rage throwing things off my dresser into walls and punching doors, kicking doors down, bashing my head into a window, throwing a water filled punching bag at my chest, pushing me into a tub, choking me, flipping me off a chair…none of that is crazy? Yesterday I had had it with him. We talked on the phone, he wanted me to think of why I loved him and get back to him. He was suppose to do the same. After work we talked, I told him my reasons of why I love him, his response “those are mine too.” So he obviously didn’t think of anything because he doesn’t love me, right? We talk and of course it turns into an argument and back and forth of what happened the night he went to jail, he did this and I did that, he said this and I said that, it becomes a battle of who’s right and who’s wrong. Well he told me I was crazy for coming up to the bar and I just lost it. I said “fuck you! I’m done! God luck with everything” and hung up. So of course the text messages start flowing in, “you are crazy!”, “You’re such a bitch”, “you’re never going to change”, “you’re the most selfish, self centered person I know!”, “I feel sorry for the next bastard that gets stuck with you!”, “go ruin someone else’s life!”, “Don’t contact me, I won’t contact you!”…on top of 6 calls within 3 minutes. I didn’t respond to any texts or phone calls. I had to go into my part-time job. He called me once while I was there.

    I guess the whole point to my rant is, how can I STAY AWAY for good???? Each time I start to make progress with my weight-loss and emotional well-being, I get pulled back into the drama with him! Now because all of this happened yesterday, I woke up with a headache and tension in my neck/shoulders on top of eating everything in sight! This is the pattern of what happens when he and I argue. It truly isn’t healthy for me, him and especially my son. How can I get to the point of not needing him!? And being OK with myself??? I was doing counseling but it got to be too expensive. I have friends that I vent to but I feel like they’re not going to want to hear about this all the time. Any help would be appreciated!!!!!

    #122792
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * Dear healingowl211:

    A few of my thoughts:

    1. His put downs, his verbal abuse of you: you stated that you are overweight- that is not a justifiable reason for him to abuse you. Let’s say you do spend a lot of time in front of the computer and you don’t clean the home- this is not a justifiable reason for him to abuse you. In fact… there is no such thing as a justifiable reason to abuse a person. And so, attending to his accusations, trying to defend yourself, trying to prove to him that you are not those things he claim- is irrelevant. He shouldn’t abuse you regardless.

    2. As a mother of a minor child, you have the responsibility to protect your son from abuse by this man. You also have the responsibility to your son to provide him with a mother (you) who is as healthy as possible. This man is damaging your health, physical/ mental, and so, you owe your son to cut all contact with this man.

    3. You asked: ” how can I STAY AWAY for good????”

    My answer: understand that you are caught in insane loop, a pattern. A good part of you knows this man is abusive but another part of you believes he has a good reason to abuse you (see #1). This part of you that believes he is justified, that the fault is yours, keep going back to him so that he stops abusing you. The insane part is just this: going back to the abuser so that he stops abusing you.

    The seemingly simple solution to being abused is to no longer go back to the abuser.

    How do you stay away for good? see your own insanity and start thinking and operating from a sane part of your brain. Have the sane part take over. Don’t allow the insane part control you.

    When you think of him, think: this man is the problem. Not the solution.

    anita

    #130629
    David Blake
    Participant

    This is a great forum. But I too as many of people on this blog are attesting to, am also in what I believe to be a emotional abusive relationship. I have been married for now going on 2 yrs and it has been the most trying time in my life. I have been married before and though in my deepest core I felt like it was a controlling relationship, it was control not in worse way but the best way and due to my hard head of not wanting to change and be controlled my ex wife felt the need to move on ahead. And that was something very difficult for me to have to deal with. Fast forward. I divorced in 2014 and remarried in 2015, after meeting someone whom i instantly connected with after 5 months. It was a lot of pressure on her end, but also something that I prayed, meditated on, and expected to happen. My first marriage ended in me wanting to give more love, more patience, more understanding, etc. so when it was over with, I felt like I had much more to give and my ex wife had no more……and decided to give it to another man. I felt like, I deserved that bc I didn’t quite smoking like she asked, or purchased little things she asked for b/c it meant more to her than me, or cleaned the way she would desire, etc. So i was forced to leave with a huge void and no closure really. But i had to accept that she had moved on and moved on for good. So i made the choice either wallow in my sorrows of me now being divorced, or move on and move on with great love, joy, understanding and kindness. I became not only loving but more lovable, and to avoid any kind of failure again on my end, I would do all in my power to be the best in my relationship but simply to and may seem a bit weird but be Totally Unconditional In ALL – B/c I went with the mantra “LOVE ENDURES ALL”. And so I went ahead with great energy. And accepted all that my new spouse came with. She expressed her bipolar syndrome, she expressed her issues of anger, and unforgiveness for family relatives(Aunt), but exuded her love for her children and family…..Kinda a Oxymoronic statement now that I write this. But she expressed her likes and dislikes and it all seemed we were destined to be together. She told me that she desires to be married and projected her worthiness of being a spouse, and I felt sorry for her due to her past abusive relationships, and felt the need to show her a difference in Man, a example that she would need to see so that her picture of men wasn’t distorted or perceived as something she’d never have or that was just it, ” All men are dogs or bad”. I took that challenge on full speed, and found it to be a bad idea as soon as we were married. Both of us with children, myself having 1 child now at the age of 15, her having 4 children (3 girls: ages, 8,14, and 15 and a son now age 7). Myself having a pretty decent job enough to support at the time myself and daughter comfortably, was chastised for not making enough for her and her children, in which i took on b/c i was the husband now, so I ended up quitting my job at the hospital to return back to school to switch careers. All while in school to enhance my career for everyone I was being reasons as to why i wasn’t good enough for her and her children, the reason on why the children disrepect me as man, coming home to a dirty home, and a spouse whose expressed to me in many ways how much she hated where she stayed, what I did in my past way before her, if I am cheating on her at school with another student or teacher, that i should just quit school and work a 10.00 / hr job b/c Xmas was coming up and she wanted to have Jordans, clothes and Iphone(cell phones) for her kids, b/c they had it before, that I was wasting my time in school, that she didn’t feel like she was important enough b/c she didn’t have her degree and that I may in the future pick someone with a more professional career than hers, and I have not given any reason for these thoughts and actions on her behalf, rather again trying to be the best I can as a husband, father and man simply. I encouraged her, that she was great, she was more than enough for me and all I need in my life, that I honor and cherish her, she is beautiful, she is smart, etc…..I express these things to her in her chastising of my character, and just don’t know what else to do. I no longer see my own daughter b/c she has expressed, she wasn’t welcome b/c she didn’t call like she wanted her to, has said F*** my at the time 14 yr old daughter and that she will become a little whore later in life, b/c she lost her virginity, called her a B*&**, she has made my daughter feel uncomfortable when coming over by showing attitude, not talking to her, and being my daughter lost her virginity and got chastised, her daughter did the same exact thing, same age as well and she defended her instead, etc…..so much and now i feel as if i have neglected my own child for the sake of a marriage, whom I am not respected, where there is no togetherness, no unity, in what we are trying to do as a whole. She wants another child but she has issues with her own already. And herself as well, and want to say these things but at this point its like every time i try to speak logically I am emotionally attacked. You don’t care, you only want your one b/c you are selfish, I am not worthy etc……is what I hear from her. So it puts me back in this guilty sorrowful place, and find myself giving something or not saying something to avoid conflict or not feel less than. I pay majority of the bills, i take care of her children, whom doesn’t really listen to me, they have these attitudes of ungratefulness, I get them expensive shoes and they are messed up from mud and dirt in about 2 weeks, I get toys and they get broken up and pieces are all over the place, they get clothes and they are just thrown all over the floor and stepped on. We cook and clean together but she is at home a majority of the day, I come home from a long day of work now, and have to help clean and cook, she states all she wants to do is be a housewife, but then complains being home all day. So much more, I have tried to treat the kids ALL the same and though I don’t see my biological child as much b/c of this situation, my goal and true intention was simply for us to be a “Happy Family” of togetherness!!! I’ve put up a vision board of how this vision is being dreamed by me, I have placed positive and uplifting quotes throughout my home and they were all taken down and put on my vision board, basically given the message, I don’t wanna see these, you can, I have been told by her oldest child how much I am not her father and I can’t tell her nothing b/c I don’t even have my own child anymore, I have been told that by her 2nd oldest how much she don’t trust me to give her what she needs, I have been backtalked to by her youngest and outright been disrespected by them as well in many ways, and I try not to say or discipline them b/c she would jump on me and start yelling at me b/c of my correction to them. So i do it only when i feel it is necessary, or sometimes not at all. I have been chastised for paying child support for a child that I am not seeing at the moment, and how it is taking away from her children, but I have had to do this since my daughter was born so it is nothing new, it was fully expressed and known before we got married. My wife hasn’t had to do a lot as far as paying bills and having a lot of responsibility in regards to her own children, b/c her grandmother and Aunt allow her to walk on crutch and at times still do, by lending money when its not needed. They have paid her bills all the way up to me meeting her and marrying her. She is now 35 and she is growing slowly and getting out of that mindset, but it is so difficult at this point for me, b/c she still criticizes my past, my job, if I am cheating at work in which i am not by any means and give no signs of distrust at all, all i do is go to work and home, I really don’t have a social life, b/c she felt like when my friends and I went out even just to watch a local game, I was cheating, and my friends no longer call me to go out, in as much I don’t really want to go out bc of the accusations I’d receive. I don’t call the mother of my child even though I have no attraction nor any desire to go back with her, I get criticized for reaching out to her to get status of my daughter b/c I haven’t heard from my child, via text or phone call, so I try to reach out and get chastised like I am being sneaky or in the wrong. When i don’t express any area of concern when she speaks to the fathers of her children. My intentions are pure, have been through action, and show true concern for her, her children, and any issues. I took on the role of a great husband and trying very hard to be successful and hopefully I will. But to be honest, this is really taking a toll on me and finding it very hard to remain who I am, I have done some cool mind hacking exercises that in thought would work but, it isn’t, the pain of my child exceeds the pain of my own spouse, as far as me not being present in their lives. Know that it should be equal but the pain is so deep that I can’t find the unconditional love that is needed to not leave. Not sure exactly where or what to do…..So i just stay in abuse, feeling my strength is strong enough to endure the accusation, criticisms, and irrational thoughts.

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    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Blaked12:

    You wrote: “I went with the mantra ‘LOVE ENDURES ALL'”- wrong mantra: love does not endure abuse. You are enduring abuse because you are misunderstanding love. Love and abuse do not fit. When you endure abuse, you are not loved, that is clear; but you are also not loving.

    How do I know you are not loving? Because you allowed your biological child- who, unlike your wife and her children, did you NO harm- to be abused, and she is hurting, through no fault of her own.

    You wrote: “my goal and true intention was simply for us to be a ‘Happy Family’ of togetherness!!!”- a good goal, only you should have chosen another wife. You can’t achieve this goal with this one.

    You wrote: “Iā€™ve put up a vision board of how this vision is being dreamed by me, I have placed positive and uplifting quotes throughout my home and they were all taken down and put on my vision board, basically given the message, I donā€™t wanna see these”- it takes two to set and follow a vision of a healthy, loving marriage. There is only one willing here.

    Your wife achieved her goal of ejecting your daughter from your home and now she wants you to stop paying child support for your daughter. She succeeded in isolating you from your friends, using you any which way, and you endure all this- why?

    anita

    #194249
    Nesrin
    Participant

    Oh, as so many of you wrote before me, as if I am reading my feelings and the storm inside. I feel I am in an abusive relationship, there is nothing more I can add – you all expressed it before. I searched my mistakes for a long time, we have been married for 7 years. And even it was really hard during most of the time as someone wrote here I had HOPE. Now we are separated – in order to free myself, I left my children with him… I do not want to be together again, until I see changes on his part – although I have no idea how I will identify those changes. Currently I lost the hope, but something … at times awakens… and asks… is it possible that there is no hope? Since I am a positive person with I CAN DO attitude, it is not hard to think that way. But against my all believes I make myself not to forget the damages that I and my children were put through…. So hard guys…. it is so hard – they are so good in words and manipulations….. the thing that holds me though is that the answer is within us, we, not them can change our future, so why should we willingly put OUR future in to THEIR hands? I know it is easier said than done, I am in my battles as well, and consumes me totally.

    Since it is an old topic, what happened to all of you? any good news? In this process I’ve just started readings and teachings of Buddha (Tina Turner’s movie motivated me). Hopefully I can find my answers as well. Good luck to all of you… But we should not waste another minute…

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