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  • #372375
    Anonymous
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    Dear Dee:

    You shared that you are in a 4 year relationship. You feel “incredibly alone.. unheard” with him, like you “have no voice”, hopeless, like you have a hole in your heart and that your love is not reciprocated, but you are not sure if your feelings are valid: maybe they are valid and the relationship is bad, but maybe you are “paranoid or over anxious”.

    Two years ago you discovered that he was soliciting prostitutes “in chat rooms for poly individuals seeking women and expressing that he was single”. Currently, he is “always on the phone… he literally takes his phone to the restroom, he keeps his phone at all times near him… he swipes or closes his phone quite a lot when I am near him”, and “Sometimes he’s gone for hours no explanation. One time he left at 3 am”.

    When you asked for more of this time and attention, and when you asked him to not have inappropriate conversations with other women, and at other times when you express your feelings and concerns to him, he has told you that it is your insecurity that requested his time and attention, that you are trying to change him, that you’ve “been over this before”,  “What More do you want from Me. I’m here all the time”, that all you do is complain about the same thing, and that you are at fault for having “discovered his indiscretions due to (your) snooping”.

    You wrote that you needed to vent and that you “just needs to know that someone understands”. What I understand is that he has been cheating on you for years, that he is busy for hours a day looking for sexual interactions with other women, that he feels comfortable doing these things because it doesn’t bother him that you are hurt, hopeless and unheard.

    I understand that he does what he feels like doing, not caring how it affects you. He tells you what is convenient for him to say, whatever will get you to stop bothering him. He feels comfortable living with you, he is not afraid to lose you because he thinks that you are a weak woman who will stay with him no matter what he says and does.

    Did I understand correctly?

    anita

     

    #372377
    Peter
    Participant

    May I ask how you experience the giving and receiving love?
    I ask because most of us assume we know what love is but my observation is that we don’t and so accept less then what we deserve.  Or worse don’t believe we deserve better. Better the experience we know then the uncertainty without it?

    In my life, there’s been heartache and pain
    I don’t know if I can face it again
    Can’t stop now, I’ve traveled so far
    To change this lonely life
    I wanna know what love is

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Peter.
    #372386
    Dee
    Participant

    Thank you for that observation Peter. I have had a chance to look inwardly for quite sometime since facing this head on. I’ve realized that much of my life the giving and receiving of love has been reduced to mere crumbs. My childhood experiences with my main caregiver was constantly learning how to readjust to just getting “any type of acceptance and attention” I have now realized that it is the driving force with much of my relationships (or lack thereof). The resounding premise has always been I just want to be loved. I’m so scared to lose anyone because I’ve never had anyone. I mean that literally. My only paternal parent created a lot of separation and abandonment when I was a child. Indeed, I know I have to work on this. Seeing the effects of all of this I have such a hard time separating myself from situations that are not fruitful for me. I honestly want to see the good in all of this. I’m so confused. Especially when he is attentive in short bouts.

    #372387
    Dee
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    Yes

    #372388
    Anonymous
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    Dear Dee:

    “he is attentive in short bouts”- that’s the “mere crumbs” of love that you referred to.

    “I just want to be loved”- and those crumbs, those short bouts of attention, is the only love you have available for you, and without those crumbs- you have nothing, so you feel, so you believe.

    And it may be true, but it doesn’t have to be this way for the rest of your life. There is more love for you than those crumbs. I believe it to be true.

    anita

     

    #372390
    Peter
    Participant

    I get it Dee. The fear of losing what you have, those moments of attention, when you imagine that maybe this time it will last…
    I understand loneliness, the worst is feeling alone even when your with those you care about.

    I don’t normally respond to relationship posts. I will say this. relationships are a crucible in which the self is revealed. We well confront the best and worse of ourselves.  Try not to attach your sense of self to what is revealed, the purpose is to learn and grow. If their is no growth the experience of love becomes tainted, stuck and LOVE will push back.

    #372394
    Dee
    Participant

    Thank you Anita.

    I believe it to be true also. The problem is I don’t know how to break free. To get what I want… because I am afraid of losing the little bit of crumbs that I have. I admit that if I had greater self esteem and more of a positive outlook I could overcome this easier. I’ve learned many things during this relationship. One of them being self love. I honestly don’t know where it begins. I am trying to be more conscious of my thoughts. I can see why I am so doubtful of WHO I Am or WHAT I can be. Again much from childhood where My mother told me that I was unattractive and that I wouldn’t amount to much at all. I’m trying to believe that I am worthy but it’s so unbelievably hard.

    I’m trying to break free from unhappiness. I really am. It’s so damn hard. I know it starts with me. I remember I once had a friend that said to me, “ snap out of it! The love that’s in fairytales and romance doesn’t exist. I know that’s what you want, but it isn’t realistic.”

    #372395
    Dee
    Participant

    Thank you Peter.

    Indeed. I have learned a lot about myself immensely. I think this is the first relationship where I can truly pinpoint what I want. Albeit I struggle with wondering if I am too needy. Yet to your point, I want to make sure that I understand what you are conveying. My experience in relationships should always be where I am evolving and growing? The experience should be an ebb and flow? Where there is conflict and pushback concerning love whether it be from me or the other person are key signals that should alert me? Do I understand that correctly?
    As of late my heart has been so full, so heavy. The triggers, the anxiety… it’s like my heart keeps propelling me to have my needs fulfilled.  I don’t want to push him away by being too needy. Yet, I’m also quite overwhelmed in determining if what I am asking is fair and just. I keep fighting to get my point across. Yet to my chagrin , I don’t think he is listening. Or to Anita’s point he isn’t overly concerned just comfortable.

     

    #372406
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Dee:

    I will read your recent posts and reply when I am back to the computer in about 14 hours from now.

    anita

    #372434
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Dee:

    You are welcome. “I am so doubtful of WHO I Am or WHAT I can be”-

    – You are a woman who wants to love and be loved, and you can be that woman.

    “My mother told me that I was unattractive and I wouldn’t amount to much at all”- to a child, her mother is god almighty, whatever god aka mother says is the word of god. So, the child believes what her mother says.

    “I’m trying to believe that I am worthy but it’s so unbelievably hard”- I know how hard it is. I too believed that I was not worthy. What a surprise it was for me when I finally believed otherwise- I had no idea how it felt to be worthy until I felt it. The reason that as adults, it’s so difficult to stop believing what mother told us when we were children, is that her words are etched in our brain… and although we shed our skin, we don’t shed our brain- our childhood brain and her words in it are still part of us at any age.

    Your friend told you “snap out of it!”. To snap out of something means to stop experiencing something unpleasant- well you can snap out of an uncomfortable, tight piece of clothing by removing it.. but you can’t remove your brain.

    She told you “love that’s in fairytales and romance doesn’t exist”- love exists; fairytales and the fictional romance genre of stories do not exist in real life.

    “I’m also quite overwhelmed in determining if what I am asking is fair and just”- asking that a man you are with does not engage sexually with other women online or in person is fair and just, for your safety (STDs) and for your mental health.

    “I keep fighting to get my point across”- I would admit defeat in that fight, if I was you: he is not motivated to listen to what you say, so .. it doesn’t matter what you say (unless it is about something that concerns him, ex. he will listen and answer you if you ask him what he wants for dinner).

    anita

    #372473
    Peter
    Participant

    Hi Dee

    My experience in relationships should always be where I am evolving and growing? The experience should be an ebb and flow? Where there is conflict and pushback concerning love whether it be from me or the other person are key signals that should alert me?

    I think your story cough my attention because its something I also wonder about. When do we know when were asking for to much or not enough. In relationship we seek out a ebb and flow of balance.  I think that feeling of being alone and sadness that you describe so well is a alert that something is out of balance.

    Knowing what it is that we authentically need is one thing. Learning how to ask for what we need in relationship is another. Both require work and a relationship ought to be a safe place to do that work (play with that balance). Of course even here balance and discernment is required. Few enjoy a relationship which is under constant analyses and work.  (I like the perspective of play here. Few things tends to be either or. Healthy flexible boundaries, there is a time for all things)

    Counseling I suspect could help, personal and or couple. Not about blame, we all fail each other in some ways. Its a question of about better if better is possible. I related to your feeling of loneliness you described and I can’t believe that is the best we should expect from relationship and doubt Love/Life will accept loneliness as growth.

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