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  • #186325
    Anonymous
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    Dear Nao:

    You describe a lot of emotional pain following the first and second breakup. I do hope you feel better soon.

    I would like to understand better about the fights you had with him, during the first and second relationships. What were those about during the first?

    In the second relationship with him, you wrote that he was loyal to you but you had fights with him, one about him inviting to his home a girl who was interested in him- invited her… for what purpose or context?

    I wonder who started all or most of the fights and what things were said during those fights, by him and by you.

    anita

    #186329
    Peter
    Participant

    Some of the pain your experiencing isn’t coming from what happened to you but how your defining a right and wrong choice and so creating regret.Ā  The good news is this is something you can change and a good place to start the healing

    ā€œMany people imagine that there is a right and wrong choice to be made in every situation. If their decision leads to the result they desire, then they made the right decision. If it doesn’t, then they made the wrong decision. Right and wrong are determined by the outcome that follows.ā€ – Nancy Colier

    This attitude toward our choices, as well as this version of life, can cause us a great deal of pain, pain often labeled as regret.Ā Regret more often then not is anger directed a one self.

    The emotion we experience as regret is information that we wish we could undo the past and had more control – (its petty much all ego). We get stuck in the emotion of regret by staying fixated in the past – in such a case regret is a waist of time – We want a do over and then sulk when we don’t get to have one. If only, if only, why me, not fair, life sucks… I suck… down the rabbit hole we go.

    Regret as information is helpful if we delve down into it. We can’t change what happened so we looked at what we might learn from the experience. (honestly – without creating victim and villain stories. If your creating victim and villain stories your still in regret and aren’t being honest). We see we have done the best we could with what we new in the time. We accept the responsibility that belongs to us and let go and even forgive what does not belong to us. We realize that based on the what we felt and new at the time we would make the same choices and did the best we could with what we had. Ā Regret turns into acceptance. Yes we could do better and deserve better and so we take what we learned to do better.

    ā€œFor every choice we make, we use the experience, information, and intentions available to us in that particular moment in which we make it. We make the decision we make in an attempt to achieve the goal we desire, with the resources we possess now. Life then unfurls in the way that it does; it becomes what it is in part as a result of our choice and in part as a result of the mystery with which life manifests, the mystery that at times seems bigger than all our choices. The truth is, there’s no reality existing somewhere else that says, ā€œDarn, you’re not going to get to join us over here in the happy life, where you could have ended up if you had made the right choice and picked the other path.ā€ That other, imagined happy life is and has always been just a thought. The particular reality that would have come, had we made the other choice, never was and never will be our reality.ā€

    ā€œThere’s only one thing we can know for sure, and that is that whatever situation we’re in now, it will change. It will change in part through our choices and in part through life’s eternal changing nature. Rather than squandering your attention on old choices made, moments that are gone, turn your most powerful gift, your attention, to what’s here now. Bring the best of you, your wisdom, and your full presence to the next choice that presents itself, here, with a sincere intention to do the best you can with who you are right now. Be in this choice, this life, this now, and stop imagining that reality could be or could have been anything other than what it is.ā€ – Nancy Colier

     

    #187475
    Nao
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    First of all; thank you for taking the time to read my post and to even reply to it!

     

    To answer your questions; During our first relationship we barely fought. During those three months we fought like 2 times total. I can’t correctly remember what those two were about, though. All I know is that we solved them rather quickly as we did not know each other very well during that time and still went through the newly couple phase.

    However, during the second relationship we spent 10 months together, which is enough time to be able to argue and so on. The fights that occured then were mostly about stupid stuff, like whenever I would like a picture of a guy friend on social media he’d get annoyed with me, and because I did not approve that kind of attitude, because I thought it was childish I’d get upset back. Honestly, I still had some trust issues because of the first incident, which led to me getting upset over even the slightest uncomfortable thing he’d do to me. For instance, when he’d decide on inviting that girl who was interested in him to his place. Usually, we were both at fault and we’d drag on the fights wayyy too long. It’s totally not worth it to ignore one another for a week when all was done is liking a picture, yet we weren’t able to solve these things quickly. We’d choose misery over happiness and I actually don’t understand why. Maybe because the both of us thought no one would ever leave so we wouldn’t have to be afraid of anything, which caused us to fight a lot of times without worry? Honestly, the fights weren’t worth it, this I realized a bit before he broke up with me, which is why I was the one to approach him to change ourselves for the better, but he declined. I think, at some point, they made him miserably unhappy (that’s how they made me feel aswell, but to me it was never enough to lose him. Sometimes I’d cry for days, because the vibe between us was horrible and I missed him, but he’d ignore my plead for help and vica versa.) to the point where he saw me/us as something toxic.

    The only reason I found out about the girl in his house is because his brother, also a dear friend kd mine, messaged me about it. When I asked him why he’d tell me this, he told me that he thought it was pretty odd since his brother (my ex) never did this throughout our entire relationship until the last month. This is what I meant with when I said that I had noticed a change in his behaviour at the end. He even asked him wether I knew about this and his reply was ā€œno, she doesn’t know.ā€ which caused my friend to become even more suspicious. When I was informed about it, I inmediately asked my ex about it and he told me it was simply ā€œnothingā€ and should brush it off. He told me she was in his house, because they were going to do groceries together and she had to wait in his room so he could get ready. Ofcourse, this isn’t weird or wrong, but the fact that he’d get upset at me when I’d not tell him that I’d go to the grocery store with my guy neighbour, but when I asked about it i had to ā€œbrushā€ it off got me worked up. (Sidenote: I was ordered to always tell him where I was and with who, preferably always a female friend, and if I didn’t he’d get really mad.)

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by Nao.
    #187485
    Nao
    Participant

    Oh, and about the stuff that were said to eachother during the occasional fights; We’d never insult each other, like calling each other bad names, but we’d be mean in a way. We’d barely speak and reply with ā€œYes. No. Ok. I don’t care.ā€

    However, when the time of us making up would arrive we’d shower eachother with apologies, explanations, Ā wholesome messages and a lot of love.

    #187563
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Nao:

    In your original post you wrote regarding your ex boyfriend: “I did nothing but love him.”

    Well, it is not true that you did nothing but love him. When you fought with him, when you ignored him for a week and so on, you didn’t love him. Neither did he love you when he fought with you, participating in the same fights.

    Fighting, or aggression is not necessary in a relationship. It is possible to have a relationship and to not fight. Aggression kills love. Sometimes it leads to a breakup, at other times, the couple stays together in a tense, miserable relationship. In any case, aggression and love do not go together. It is impossible to make up for aggression again and again by making up after breaking up, by being loving after the aggression and then returning to aggression.

    I hope that you consider an aggression free relationship in your future. I hope you recover from this heartache, and do post again, if it helps.

    anita

    #187689
    Nao
    Participant

    Hello again Anita,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I don’t mean to attack you whatsoever, but I don’t think you’re in the position to define whatever ā€˜love’ is. You haven’t lived through my relationship and my feelings, you’re just hearing about it. I appreciate the fact that you take the time to reply to my messages, but I think you’re being simple minded if you believe love exists only when there’s no aggression taking place. We’re human beings. It’s in our nature to be aggressive towards stuff. If what you’re saying would be correct then it’d mean my parents don’t love each other even though they’ve been married for the past 26 years just because they fight with one another now and then? Ofcourse, I did love my ex even when the fights occured and even when we treated eachother as shit at times. You can’t tell me I didn’t. No one can and no one is allowed to with all the respect. It’s quite rude to decide about somebody else’s feelings.

    Maybe what I’m feeling is not for everyone to understand and should be discovered by myself apparently. Thank you anyways for wishing me well and trying to talk about it with me! I wish you all the best aswell.

    Kind regards,

    Nao

    #187691
    Nao
    Participant

    Dear Peter,

    Thank you for the lovely reply and helpful quotes! I honestly hope that I can turn my regret into acceptance someday, because I’m fully aware now that I have that kind of control and that regret isn’t meant to tear me apart forever.

    Kind regards,

    Nao

     

     

    #187715
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Nao:

    You are welcome. Anger is natural, of course. We can’t help but feel whatever it is we feel.

    As humans, in most cases, we have a choice to not act certain ways when angry. When a parent feels angry at her/ his five year old child, for example, it is okay to feel that anger. But is it okay for the parent to act aggressively toward the child, to yell or hit the child?

    And when a parent does yell or hit the child, do you think the parent is loving the child at the same time?

    anita

    #187773
    Buddi
    Participant

    I am not sure where in Netherlands you are but if you want to know what to do here it is –

    1) Google this “CLOSEST CROSS FIT TO ME” . Join and work out. Why cross fit you ask? This is one form of exercise that makes you not just physically strong but it kicks your mental ass. I say this with experience.Ā Once you start cross fit your hunger strike will be over that I can promise you for sure.

    2) Join a book club , go to parties with friends and mingle you do not have to hook up or look for a BF just talk to another human being you age and see what is new in the world.

    3) BLOCK and DELETE his number/contact from all social media and do not ask about him with common friends or stalk him on FB.

    4) Like you said you are too young I PROMISE YOU THIS you will love again and you will have your heart broke several more times but U WILL Survive. Its called Life.

     

    So Fake a Smile if you have to but go out and face it.

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