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November 29, 2013 at 2:48 pm #45951AlexyParticipant
Hello all,
Im a nice guy. I looked up the characteristics of a nice guy on the internet and surprisingly i fit almost all of them. But Im a funny, confident, smart and ok looking guy. Im not trying to boast but my friends guys and girls tell me this all the time. Theyre surprised that im not in a relationship since they consider me a cool guy. Anyways this past year has had its ups and downs. I talked to a brazilian foreign exchange girl from engineering (my major too) and that didnt go too well (actually that should have never happened). Then, when I least expected it, I met a girl at a frat party that my friends literally dragged me to. We talked for 2 and a half months and everything was great. But i think im the guy that has to be in a relationship to have sex, I passed up two opportunities with girls that just wanted to have sex. I dont know why, i just did. Maybe I just have to have a connection. This girl was a freak and we did a lot things together, But then we stopped talking, and I was ready to have sex with her. I wasnt too bummed about it though, I got over it quick. Then i had depressing summer; i was questioning my major, job and everything (im a senior in environmental engineering). So I was pretty down but slowly recovering, Then I met this girl. Actually we were introduced by a friend but didnt really talk. i saw her at a festival and we started talking like crazy. Everyday almost. Facebook, and i got her #. Not trying to make the same mistakes in the past where I wait too long, I asked her out to eat within 2 weeks. She said she was busy that weekend, then i asked her to hang out and her family only had one car and she needed to work, so she couldnt. So I was like forget this, Im going to stop trying. And then she would not stop talking to me, she would always contact me. We hung out twice or 3 times with friends and she kept talking to me. I finally made a move and told her I was interested in her and that i wanted to take her out. She said i was a really cute and sweet guy but she says wasnt mentally ready for a relationship, she had done some things in the past she wasnt proud of and that i deserved someone who would be faithful. And she just gotten out of one a month or 2 ago, that lasted a month. The one she had b4 that lasted a year and they completely stopped talking. That happened late july/early august. Right after she said something that bothered me, that I seemed INNOCENT. And then she told me that seems like it but she isnt. Also she mentioned 3 times that maybe she wanted to go out with girls; the first time she said she would go out with a chick, then she said she liked boobs and i forgot the 3rd time. Anyways, she still is hitting me up but there is a different tone in her greeting as well as in my response time. I just seem to have bad luck haha. People tell me I shouldnt look for a relationship but when I find an attractive girl who has some interests that I like, i start to go for her. I mean dang, im about to finish college and ive been with 2 girls that were just like friends with benefits or early stages of dating. And 4 attempts to girls i was really interested in but just didnt work out cuz maybe im too nice. I dont know. And this girl has helped me get my funniness and confidence back. But now its started to go away like 3 days after she told me that she wasnt mentally ready for a relationship. This girl has really helped me out, more than she knows. I still wanna be friends with her but it pisses me off that Im talking to her if nothing is gonna happen. i dunno if this seems desperate but i want a relationship for the ride and adventure. Its just been too long. Any advice? Thanks guys!
November 29, 2013 at 8:05 pm #45966JosephParticipantSome advice. You would really benefit from understanding adult attachment styles. What you describe is pretty classic and reminds me of me at your age.
It sounds like you have something known as an anxious attachment style. 25% of the population. As a result you will tend to be attracted to and attract people who have an avoidant attachment style. Also close to 25% of the population.
There is a super awesome book called Attached the science of adult attachment. I can’t express how great that book was for me. I also have an anxious attachment style and the book is amazing. You read it and it tells you exactly how you act and even what you think. Then you recognize the behavior of the people you date and realize the stuff about what likely good on in their mind. Do that and you will learn how to identify the right people for you so you don’t continue this pattern. You will also realize that thy he stuff they do has nothing to do with you. It’s just the way you act, it’s too intimate for them and freaks them out. But there is a whole 50% of the girls out there who are of the secure type and would love your sensitivity so long as you learn to express your needs for security. The book outlines some great advice to detect the types that will be scared of your sensitivity and those who will be perfect for and appreciate it.
Try seeing if they offer a free chapter on kindle, it’s an easy read and you will be finding the right girls in no time.
After that you may want to consider a book called the Four Agreements. With it you may learn not to judge yourself based on the reactions of other people and thus a relationship will be a nice to have but not so critical to your immediate happiness. But do attached first and try the second book after a month to let the first book sink in.
Best of luck on your journey.
November 29, 2013 at 9:53 pm #45971AlexyParticipantHey joseph,
Hmm, i never thought about that! i will give the book a read, I just like being myself. I think im nicer to girls I like. But the girls I dont like, are generally attracted to me. I dunno. I’ll give the books a read. Thanks a bunch!
November 29, 2013 at 11:15 pm #45986MonkParticipantNot going to write a lot here..but find out how many ‘Bad boy’..macho stud, pick up artist type guys are in a stable relationship? You will find that most college girls want to have sex or a short term gig with such personalities..but eventually end up settling with a nice guy like you!..it’s all about what you want in life..if a person accepts you for who you are and is attracted by your niceness or innocence..then that’s the right girl for you…there is no such thing as I am alone because I am too nice..that just means you got to expand your circle of females and stay away from the bi%%s that just want physical attachment..
November 30, 2013 at 2:06 pm #45996AlexyParticipantIm just getting a little frustrated thats all. I got to be more direct as well. Like the last girl I dated, I didnt really put much thought into her and things were great. But thats why I didnt care when we stopped talking. But when I really like a girl, thats when I become super nice for some reason and joke around a lot and am not as direct because im afraid I’ll do something that might scare her away. My confidence was super high when I talked to the sorority girl. But after I talked to the sorority girl, I had my problem with my major during the summer my confidence went down, When i started to talk to the last girl, my confidence rose but I wasnt as flirty as i usually am. I felt like in kindergarden trying to talk to a girl haha. Thanks for the comment!
November 30, 2013 at 10:37 pm #46009JosephParticipantAlexy, people are best at being themselves and suck longterm when they have to act fake. So do yourself a favor and find the girls who want you just the way you are.
I think it’s a problem of perspective. You sell yourself short and i think you put others into positions they rather not be in. Let me explain.
You try and seek if the other girl wants to be in a relationship with you. Essentially you are making her the judge of you with your feelings in the balance. I don’t think most girls (especially at that age) want to be responsible for your feelings or live up to these not fully expressed expectations.
So I think you need to learn to flip things around and be more compassionate for these girls many of whom are dealing with a challenging time in life as they get adjusted to maturing into adulthood. Which means you have to take the lead.
From this point forward YOU need to be the one who figure out for himself if a girl meets all the criteria you want. For example, does she click with you, how do you feel around her, does she seem like she is a caring person, do you think she shares your values, etc. The difference here is you are actively trying to figure these things out as you talk and observe her in real time (not in your imagination).
If you are concerned with what she might think of you then you are missing the important thing here. Is she right for you? You don’t know unless you ask all the questions and have time to observe. If you are hinting that you might want a relationship at some point and you have not answered this question then you are asking her to leap in so you feel comfortable while you don’t really know what you should know because you are spending way too much time in your own head. You are making her take the lead. Girls like that about as much as you asking them where they want to go.
YOU need to make a list of all the qualities that you think are ideal. Know what you want and explore to see if you find those qualities. And it shouldn’t be something you can figure out quickly so that means you may need to be curious for quite a while. Which also means since it will take time you should try and enjoy the process and keep things light until you know this girl may have what it takes to emotionally invest more.
Second be transparent. Hey I like to have fun, I love to make new friends but know this about me, I am always on the lookout for that someone special. It takes me a while to figure out if the person I see potential in may have all the things I am looking for but if she does then I won’t shy away from expressing it and seeing if she feels the same way.
If we become friends and that’s all that is cool. If we find we both want to become more well that’s cool too, but let’s just enjoy seeing what happens.
I think for your personality that gives them the perfect amount of transparency and space that they will need. And you will be taking the lead and telling them you will be considerate before asking them to take a leap of faith, that you will give them the space to be whatever with you that they may want and they have no expectation to have to be judge and jury with your feelings in the balance. In short they have the courtesy of being free to think of themselves and what they want without a consequence to you.
Hope that was not to wordy, but taking care of your needs first and being direct abput ii is actually less selfish than unwittingly putting them in the position of holding your future feelings in the balance.
Get the book. Change your perspective to take care of yourself while still being compassionate to others and go kick some ass!
December 27, 2013 at 5:48 pm #47735Saif AlsParticipantHello there. Mr. Stalker here! Tehe.
I’m just amazed to see that your posts are what the regular thought processes that smother my mind every single day of my life. I’m only 19 years old and I’m great at giving out advice, while I fail to help out my own self.
I’m a nice guy as well, and different from my brother, I do not let people take advantage of that trait. It’s not something many guys have. A girl would be lucky to come across someone like you. The one thing I would keep in mind is making sure the girl isn’t there just to use me for who I am. A great quote I came across once:
“People were made to be loved. Things were made to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos is because things are being loved, and people are being used.”
Don’t let deception be the leader of your decisions. You wouldn’t want to become a “bad boy” to counteract what wrong an ex girlfriend might have done to you. Yes, bad boys do get lots of girls, but then again, girls never know what they want from a guy. Next thing you know, the girl is dashed about the relationship and doesn’t even know why she isn’t satisfied with the relationship any longer. I’m not saying that’s how all girls are, but it’s a trend to have many relationships nowadays. Don’t get a girlfriend just for the sake of having one.
The media and corporations these days really break humanity into bits and pieces. Lots of what people do these days is a result of what has been said, done, perceived or shared by the media, social networks and corporations, all in the purpose and name of dirty money. Make sure that how you feel about not having a relationship isn’t reflected upon outsider expectations.
If I have to put what you’re going through in a “matchmaker” scenario; A nice man deserves a very sensitive woman. I say this because, generally speaking, the man is the tough figure in a relationship. He is the masculine logical person. Just to balance out the emotional female + the logical male aspect of it, the female has to be in a more sensitive/delicate state or personality than the man (in your case). Femininity is naturally more gullible and delicate than masculinity. I don’t know how else to put it really, but having a very nice man and a tough girl in the same relationship would make it a living hell for that man. I’m just setting out a picture here. For you to be able to have a healthier, happier and longer relationship, you would have to understand your partner very well. If you have that understanding and you know that you could do with her (at the same time, knowing that you would be able to meet her needs) then you guys are good for each other.
You mentioned that you take too long to get out and have sexual intercourse with a girl and that you are working on fastening your pace; That comes under changing yourself to meet undesired expectations. You’d rather want to know and understand each other more before jumping into sex. It just doesn’t start off like that. You would need to build a stronger relationship for things to work out in order to guarantee your future together. You wouldn’t want to bore each other at the same time. It’s unhealthy to be very proactive in a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship, and it’s also unhealthy to be too distant. You will need to be balanced between being too nosy and being too passive, as dull and blurry as it may sound. You will be the one who will make sure the balance is met.
One thing I’ve learnt is that ALWAYS being there is a bad thing. It’s really fine to skip a date/invite because you are busy with other things or you are too tired. Just giving the girl the impression that you will be okay with going out at any time psychologically turns her off. It’s just natural that a nice person would want to always give in, and so when it starts to work against you, you will be upset and disgruntled with yourself. Give in, but don’t push it.
This does not mean you should change who you are to satisfy others. That’s the worst thing that could be done. Stay who you are. Most importantly, be comfortable with who you are. Let time play its role, and don’t rush things. I’m in your same footsteps, and just as I mentioned in my first few lines: This is coming out of little experience and lots of perception.. Yes I’m trying to help you out, but I’m struggling myself. Sad reality for me ;o
Don’t bother yourself too much with things that can come later in life or things that are temporary. You need to prioritize, and you are currently focused on an opportunity that comes across once in your lifetime at the right age; That is, finishing your studies.
Please excuse me if I might have been vague or offensive at any point. I haven’t edited what I had typed. I just let my mind free and my fingertips went with the flow. I could have gone further, and I could have proofread making this more professional, but I’m currently too sleepy to do so :p
Remember – Patience is virtue
Good night! 🙂
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