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  • #206481
    Anonymous
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    Dear IpkR09:

    While in a long distance relationship with you, he asked you to write a poem about a beautiful smile. You did as he asked. When you asked why he wanted this poem he told you that needed it so to pursue another woman.

    This is cruel behavior on his part, don’t you think?

    Your response: “I was hurt but I did not say anything then… Shocked at all levels, I did not say anything then”.

    I would like to understand better, therefore I ask: why didn’t you say anything?

    anita

     

    #206493
    Ik09
    Participant

    I always have had the fear of being left alone all my life… It originated long back due to some family members, friends and later love interests leaving me behind.

    When i met him, I was cautious not to fall very deep in love, obviously i could not control that but still I had my doubts…

    After three months of being together, He confronted me and told me that he will not leave. After that at various occasions….  numerous occasions should be the correct term he told me that again and again, even when i was not afraid anymore.

    Yes it was cruel of him, but this relationship was his first relationship (He is a single mother child and he told me he always felt that she is his responsibility so he wanted to focus on providing her a good life but he said that when we met, he just fell for me) and somehow I felt that maybe if he goes out with someone else he will realise that what we have is far more precious and he would not do so again.

    I feel so stupid right now.

    I stopped myself from asking him not to talk to anybody else because i felt i might fall in the same category of women men run away from….clingy and possessive. and also even though i don’t want to admit it but because i felt if i constrict him, he might leave.

    you know the funny thing was that he told me he isn’t leaving even when i recently visited him.

    I was a smart girl, but when it comes to him I have been really dense!!!

    #206503
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    As to him, you wrote: “he told me he always felt that she is his responsibility so he wanted to focus on providing her a good life but he said that when we met, he just fell for me”. Reads to me that he is angry at this mother, that he is conflicted: wanting to be free of that responsibility to her but feeling guilty to set himself free. I think that it is this anger and conflict that motivated him to act so callously with you.

    As to you, reads to me that you are not “really dense” as in lack of intelligence, but dense with fear. Fear is a very powerful emotion. You were afraid to get hurt, to be left alone by him. Such a fear does not go away easily, if it goes away at all.

    For the purpose of keeping a man in a relationship with you, for this very purpose, better choose a man who is not likely to leave, who is not conflicted and troubled like this man, and better be honest and assertive with the man.

    I hope you post again with your thoughts and feelings.

    anita

     

     

    #206539
    Ik09
    Participant

    I feel you are right because he used to complain a lot about his mother saying that she calls him too much and was worried that soon she will be retiring from her job and then will all her focus which was 70% till now will be on him. Personally I liked his mum mostly because I admired her to have single-handedly raised a polite, intelligent, understanding man who respects women a lot but I feel I judged him too soon, he was never so far apart from her that he could take care of himself on his own, the moment one gets away from home, they develop their own personality, the loneliness, the daily struggles, a new job, a lot shapes us and makes us a different person. I think he needs time to know who really is and as for his mother, I will pray that he realises what she gave up on to have a life focused on him. She could have remarried, have had a life of her own but she did not.

    maturity is what we both need.

    You are right about me too Anita and this is why I have decided not to date or love again till I am sure I love myself enough to not be afraid of being alone. This is something which might have scared him too as he used to say this a lot – I cannot begin to think what you would go through if something happens to me like my dad.

    I have started more time with myself, I have made some BIG plans for myself. I have been writing since I was seven years old and I have written many stories, but i never shared them with anyone. It wasn’t until my ex came to my life that he encouraged me to send them to magazines and writing contests. And boosted my confidence to the point that i decided to write a novel, a storty which has been with me since I was in high school and i started working on it last year itself. But due to my fear of Ends, I was not able to think of how to proceed with the end. I don’t know how but soon after he left, i got the idea of how to end it. And not just that, I got ideas for two more novels in the same series. Apart from that I have always wanted to travel, and I have decided to save up to go on a solo trip. Already mentioned that on Happi’s post hehe…. I felt so good to talk to someone about this.

     

    I don’t know how long I will love him, It is exhausting. This keeps the hope alive that he might call one day, he might text one day, tell me that he has figured things on his end and he wants to eat with me. I don’t want anything romantic with him nor am i willing to take him back right now, I just don’t want to feel this hope. He might meet me one day, he might not. I want to be the person I always been- helpful, kind, confident. I want to give hope to the world through educating young minds.

    Thank You Anita for your words, they have enlightened me and also. I wish to get over this sinking feeling fast, it is taking a toll on my sleep and in turn my health but I am making efforts. Let’s see how long it will be!!

    #206597
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    I re-read and thoroughly  studied your three posts on this thread. First, regarding your health. I wonder about the nature of your health condition and hope it can be much improved if not completely healed.

    Regarding the relationship with this man:

    You wrote, “I stopped myself from asking him not to talk to anybody else because I felt I might fall in the same category of women men run away from… clingy and possessive”. I believe this is exactly what  happened and it is the reason he broke up with you: you fell into the same category of his mother.

    His mother is and has been clingy and possessive of him.

    He told you that “he felt that he was being rude to me whenever he was working and that he feels that he cannot take care of my emotional needs… felt like I was an emotional baggage”. He told you that the fact that you “could not even stay away (from him) for three days makes him think he made the right decision (to end the relationship)” And he told you “he could not take it”.

    He projected his mother into you, seeing his mother in you. He saw you clinging to him, possessive of him, wanting 100% of his time and his life. He felt suffocated.

    You wrote: “he used to complain a lot about his mother saying she calls him too much and was worried that soon she will be retiring from her job nd then will all her focus which was 70% till now will be on him”.

    You wrote that you are troubled by the lack of communication with him, that there has been no communication at all for the last month and a half. It “makes me feel as if I did something wrong”.

    It is my understanding that it is not you who did something wrong. It is his mother who did something wrong: clinging to him, focusing on him too much (but not seeing that he is hurt and that she is hurting him!), making him her world, instilling in him the belief that he is responsible for how she feels, that it is his job to make her smile and it is his fault every time she doesn’t smile.

    This false responsibility, the guilt involved, the torment, this is what he “could not take”.

    anita

    #206625
    Ik09
    Participant

    I am better now, I had an extremely low level of hemoglobin which my parents were determined that only right food can take care of. After 6 months of coming back home, when they realized that I am still not getting better then we consulted a doctor. It was then they realized how serious things were and I might die. Iron was injected into my body at monthly intervals and now I feel better in fact ever since February this year I feel energetic and attentive unlike before.

    Yes, I do think I did the same thing. I feel like the pressure of his job, me, his mother, everything was too much to handle. But I have spent a month in guilt, thinking how I pressured the guy I loved with all of me away and that was not helping me in moving on. At first I did not want to accept the breakup, I thought he would come back(We used to break up in initial days to get back together within 20 mins to an hour- there has been only once when we spent one complete night and morning not talking, In the afternoon he called and said that let’s stop the dramatics, we both know we cannot stay away and we would end up laughing at things we said) We have spent some really good times together and when I used to go visit him, he used to be like this crazy carefree kid around me.

    I really think he needs some time on his own but the fact that he did not call even once makes me feel bad about myself. Even the men who left for various reasons like career and other women used to text me when they needed a friend. I try to think that it does not bother me if he is dating other women and I even think what if we meet somewhere and he is with a girl, and I feel that seeing him happy would give my heart some peace but the fact that I am in a different city altogether and He does not wish to talk to me, unless there is some need to- is breaking my self-esteem. Every day I wake up thinking today will be better, at least better than yesterday but no, It never becomes better. Every night I feel like calling him, asking him how he is, but my pride or ego, I give you the liberty to use either, makes me switch off my phone to avoid the anticipation.

    He used to take my help in his work and he made me feel like his superhero.  I had started a little nagging when suddenly he did not want to pursue his MBA (something he had planned ever since in college), started drinking more than usual(I was scared he might get into the habit) and when I wanted him to manage his expenses better… I did not complain about the money I spent on his meals, I do that for my friends too but recently before I left my city to meet him the last time- I lent him a little larger sum than usual and told him specifically it is my savings for my sister’s wedding gift. He said he is very thankful and he would return it soon. My sister is getting married in July and we are not on talking terms for a month and half. I feel it will be so rude if I ask for it and asking for it would mean I have to talk to him. Knowing him, he will try to return everything at once even if it meant skipping meals for days.

    Why I am thinking so much!!!!! I honestly don’t want to care about him the same way he doesn’t care about me anymore but I don’t know how to gauge my thought process. Being busy does not help. It is just that I had always pictured him to be so strong that ever since I met him, I always thought of him as my life partner. And now I feel like not talking to men for as long as I can avoid it.

    Sorry for doing this, again and again, my brain goes on in a loop and I keep writing it all down.

    Thank you, Anita, for being so patient with me and reading everything I have to say! I really cannot thank you enough!

    #206631
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    You are welcome. I am glad you are feeling better and it reads like the condition is curable, or was as all you needed was to correct your hemoglobin levels.

    How much/ how often did you give him money, did he return any of it to you and why is it that he needed money. I thought he has a job, why did he need your money?

    anita

    #206633
    Ik09
    Participant

    He has a job and he invested most of it in mutual funds, when he shifted to the new city, he used some large sum of money on food and lodging, I mean he could have spent less but this was a difficult topic to talk to him about.

    some months i ordered food three-to-four times a month, while other months once a month.

    I don’t have an exact amount I have lent him all through last year but I remember vaguely lending him 3k on one occasion and 5k on another.  This year onwards I lent him 6k online and gave him 2k in person.

    He said he would return it and he used to try paying for my expenses whenever I came to visit him but not the entire amount.

    #206639
    Ik09
    Participant

    the large sum of money I mentioned in the start was from what he borrowed from his mother’s account and he did not tell her where he spent it because he also spent it on drinking which she detests. To cover that, he lied he invested it so he paid interest on that too in her account, his mutual funds and rest on his lodging and food. He did not ask for money unless it was a really bad situation, mostly he would ask me if I could order him some food. He used to ask me to order something cheap so that he can pay it back easily.

    #206641
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    At his time of financial need, do you know if his mother helped him, if he asked her for money, if he accepted money from her?

    anita

    #206643
    Ik09
    Participant

    He asked her for money when he moved to the city so that until his first salary, he has some money to eat. I had already arranged his stay with my friend so he did not pay for first two months.

    He always said that I was more endowed because I could do whatever I want(Career) when he has to think about the costs and his mother. He was specially tensed since she would be retiring this November.

    As far as I know, He did not ask her for any more money again, He went home once so she gave him around 15k to take a flat but he spent it on food and lived in a hostel which costed him more but was more comfortable to him after a tiring day at work

    #206649
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    I am trying to understand better, therefore I ask:

    Has he been comfortable all along, receiving money from you and from his mother, and he has not been in any rush to return the money to you?

    You mentioned earlier that he complained a lot about his mother, can you elaborate on his complaints?

    anita

    #206691
    Ik09
    Participant

    His first complaint regarding her was always that she does not give him enough space and freedom. Every time we used to talk he had to go out of his home because his mother tried to listen to our conversation. He was 22 by the time he finished his college and since his college was in the same city, he did not opt for the hostel. And very often he would complain that I am a 22-year-old who cannot shut the door of his own room because his mother does not want him to.

    I used to go home only in the holidays as my university and my home-town were in different states. So he used to say that I am lucky that I don’t have to explain the reason I want to go out with my friends, to eat, to go explore someplace.

    Apart from that, he used to complain how she counted each penny whenever she used to give him money to buy anything. He said I am her own child, why can’t she trust me that I will not spend the money if I have not asked for it. He really hated reporting back to her after he used any money. I remember during his college days, Most mornings he would call me and ask me to change his mood because he was angry that she did not give him enough money for fuel and lunch so he would have to share with friends.

    My mum is the same way, I guess most mums are, there are still living in the era when they were young when it comes to prices of things. But thankfully my father took over whenever I needed money during college.

    He deleted our conversations on Whatsapp every day because his mum used to check his phone when he was asleep. And that is how she got to know that he was dating me, He slept midway our conversation once and of course, could not delete the texts, She read them all and asked him about me the next day.

    Every time I have heard him speak to her on call, I have always heard him either shouting or saying that I am good, I ate, I am healthy, I will call later. Unless she needed his help with her net banking or something, he was not patient with her on calls. I used to always tell him that do you hug your mum or do you make her feel loved and he used to say she is my mum, we don’t do hugs and gestures.

    Being comfortable with receiving money, no he never was. He used to tell me in college that I will make it a point that once I have enough I either take your parents around the world or buy them a car or something. He felt guilty and sometimes booked me movie tickets even when I did not want them, for my siblings too along with me. He bought me earrings and a dress but that was out of his savings before he started earning. after starting his job, he used to say I will return and he did use to pay for food and other expenses when I used to visit him but he was never in a rush, especially because in the start I used to say that its okay, you don’t need to return it immediately, return it when you have money. With time I stopped saying this line, and He used to say that he feels like the girl in the relationship because I take care of him lot more.

     

    The day he broke up, he also talked about something he never spoke about all the time we were together, he told me his mum used to earn more than his father and they used to fight a lot and his family used to dislike her because of that. That is why he said that only if he earned well, he would come back for me, otherwise no.

     

     

    #206705
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear IpkR09:

    I am tired and would like to re-read and reply to your recent post tomorrow morning, in about sixteen hours from now.

    For now, I am curious, and maybe you can answer me before I return to the computer:

    You wrote earlier that you like his mother. Does it mean that you approve of her disrespect of her son’s privacy, not allowing him the space that a human being needs so to be mentally healthy?

    You encouraged your ex boyfriend to hug his mother, to make her feel loved, you wrote-

    isn’t it the job of the parent to make the child feel loved, not the other way around?

    anita

    #206719
    Ik09
    Participant

    Yes I said I like her mother but it was because of the way she raised him…. This guy had the qualities I did not find in any other man earlier…. He was polite and respectful and understanding and encouraging to me…apart from that the way he behaved with other people made me love him even more… He was patient with people, took time to understand matters and tried solving things.

     

    I did not like the way his mum invaded his privacy but it’s his mother, I cannot complain about his mother to him. Yes I did encourage h maybe I am wrong but I hug my mum and papa at every opportunity I can find… I feel like I want to do it often so that I remember about it after they are gone. I just encouraged him so that he doesn’t regret not doing it when she was around. She has been a breast cancer patient and goes through regular checkups. Although she is healthy right now but even small complications are scary. He only has his mum now… None of his other family members are close to him.

     

    Good night and tell me about it when you find time… I am sorry for taking so much of your time but your perspective is really helpful.

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