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April 25, 2015 at 4:25 pm #75824GeorgeParticipant
Noname you can help yourself by asking for help.
There are times in life that asking for a helping hand is what we need.
You should give your self the opportunity to share your story with a therapist.
I am overwhelmed my self with pessimism sometimes but i am sharing this negative feelings with my therapist to realise what triggers these thoughts.I am not saying its easy to fight what you are fighting but at least you can fight! You can say you tried!
April 25, 2015 at 6:06 pm #75826NameParticipant@George
You are right.Just as the previous participant mentioned on this thread.
I am in a pit. My vision has been clouded. But I didn’t see light for so long I thought I was blind.
No. I believed I was blind. I believed it was fact, though it was just assumption.
And just as I was about to give up, a small amount of moon light made it through the clouds and I saw problem.
The problem wasn’t external. It was internal. It was my perception which was broken.
I was looking through a coloured glass.
Then, with little effort, I simply looked through a different colour glass.
This was what made me realize that by making my assumptions fact, I closed my mind. I was hurting myself.
I blamed others, including myself. Though, I didn’t realize that blaming was just an excuse not to get better.
Assumptions are just a template, they are the full body paragraph.
I said that I was the problem. So I believed it. But when I looked through the other coloured glass, I said I was not the problem.
The problem was what I was saying.I feel the moon light on my skin. It is slowly becoming stronger. Enough for me to see the pit that I have called my home.
The ladder is still missing. Maybe there will be a day someone lends me a hand.
Thank you. Everyone who helped.
April 27, 2015 at 11:14 am #75871senseiParticipantI hear you, because I was there.
However I learned something which turned my life around.These are some I learned.
YOU must become the BEST FRIEND with YOURSELF.
Make a list of quality, personality, which you want to be friend with.
Try to BE on your List.
Because People and Things COME and GO, but YOU are stuck with YOURSELF for the rest of YOUR LIFE.When you wake up in the morning, say
“I will make today THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.”
DO your best to make it as much as you can.I just thought only two right now, but I will let you know if I remember some more.
Toshi Sasanuma
April 27, 2015 at 5:39 pm #75885LisaParticipantMy most heart-felt thought is that I want to introduce you to the most remarkable life affirming philosophy I have ever encountered. I participate in “active” meditation (as opposed to a passive meditation). I chant NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO. This is an invocation that fuses your life with the source of the universe, the Law of Cause and Effect. This chant is part of a Buddhist practice that has helped me change at the core of my life, an inner transformation. I live with more awareness, compassion, wisdom and joy when I chant. Chanting raises my life condition which is similar to our vibration (everything has a vibrational frequency). When my life condition is high, I notice that I live joyously and attract the things that I desire or need. We all need things including safe housing, food, money, love, health, etc. There is a saying in this Buddhism, “Earthly desires lead to Enlightenment”. That means that it is guaranteed that if you chant for the earthly desires that you need in your life, you will not only get the thing you were chanting about, but you will become enlightened at the same time. Awesome, right?! This philosophy centers around the Law of Cause and Effect. If you believe in Karma or have ever heard the phase, “what goes around, comes around,” this is the universal law that makes all that happen. When we make a cause, we get an effect. Similarly, when one tosses a pebble into a pond, the ripples in the water eventually hit the shore. Every second of the day we are making causes and whether we believe in the Law of Cause and Effect or not, those causes generate effects. Today, we know or believe in a sub-law, the Law of Gravity and it works every time whether one believes that it “exists” or not. Newton may have discovered this phenomena and gave it a name, but it was always there. With the understanding of gravity, humans have learned to use it to their advantage to get humongous, jumbo jet airplanes into the sky to transport people all over the world. Just imagine if one could learn to use the Law of Cause and Effect to change their internal and external causes and, in turn, change the destiny of their lives for the better. When one learns to use this universal law (which is above all other sub-laws) they can elevate their lives with greater awareness, universal protection, unlimited good fortune, wisdom, compassion, and absolute happiness. World Peace, through the happiness/enlightenment of every individual, is the goal of this practice. A lofty goal, but obtainable through the self-empowerment of each individual and through sharing this knowledge with others. This principal of sharing this knowledge is like the following parable: Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him to fish and he eats for a life time. There is so much more I can tell you about the benefits of chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, but the reality is you have to experience it for yourself. Please look into it. I want you to eat for a lifetime. See and read for yourself how you can apply this great philosophy to your life. Don’t let limiting beliefs hold you back. It can be an instantaneous transformation, but you have to make the cause to try. Go to http://WWW.SGI-USA.ORG then click on any of the tabs across the top of the page.
May 19, 2015 at 9:15 am #76950AnonymousGuestHow are you doing, today 5/19- ???
anitaMay 22, 2015 at 9:48 am #77096AnonymousGuestDear Name:
How are you doing these days? I read your original post and others’ comments. No wonder you can’t live with yourself. Part of yourself is operating AGAINST you, attacking you. Being under attack- no wonder you are suffering. The part of you that is attacking you, the Toxic Inner Critic, the Internal Attacker as I call it, the Internal Abuser (or the Fruedan Superego) is enrmous in your psyche and toxic. The child part of you (The Id in Freudan language) is suffering, having no one to protect her against the Internal Abuser. Healing is about developing an effective internal manager (Fruedan Ego) to protect your child part, to circumvent the Superego.Obviously you have been a victim of trauma, most likely childhood trauma. Your Internal abuser took after a parent/ caretaker who in practice abused you- by neglect or otherwise.
Through healing you can make your psyche user friendly, meaning it stop attacking itself, one part attacking the other.
Please post again.
Take care:
anitaMay 26, 2015 at 3:01 pm #77319NameParticipantSorry for the late reply.
I have been still working hard to achieve happiness. Unfortunately, I still can’t grasp it. I’m trying the best I can to remain hopeful. But I’m afraid I have lost meaning in life. Everything is just black and white to me.
I guess all I really want out of life is love. Love comes naturally to others, but people like me have a hard time understanding it. You see, I have lost my childhood. It was a mistake for me to be born. I was not planned. I just appeared. My parents divorced and separated a long distance when I was only a few months old. I never really had a father at that time. My mother was too young and had problems herself. So she neglected my siblings and I. As a middle child, you always feel like the odd one out and left out by everyone. In my family there were two middle children and I was unfortunate to be one. I had felt as I had to team up with the other middle child just so we both could survive. My eldest brother always held a grudge towards me and I never knew why. But because I had no father, no one to look up to, I looked up to the one who hated me most. I took care of my youngest sister. She was the youngest sibling and I always looked out for her.
Fast forward to when I started my first year in elementary. I met my father for the first time where he took me to the other side of the country to live with him. My father had to work a lot to provide for us. So he was always gone, which left me with a lady who would be considered my baby sitter. She was the most cruellest lady I have ever made contact with. She would do things to me and only me. I told my father but he didn’t believe me. So I lost all hope. I had tried to run away several times, but that never went well. So I just stopped running and just go through it all.
A few years later I went back to my mothers and lived with her again. I never really told my mother or anyone else of the events. My mother was becoming more caring as she aged and I can now say she is a great mother now, but I have not seen her in a long time.
I just continued my life not feeling, not understanding. I isolated myself from all social interactions (including my own family). I only saw others as monsters. I never seen any good in another person. It wasn’t until the end of my years in elementary I met a girl who I had fell in love with, but I had no understanding of what I felt. It wasn’t until it was too late that I understood that I felt love for the first time. But this made me aware that maybe there is good in this world. But I lacked social skills. So I spent a great amount of my time trying to understand socializing.
My first year of high school was frightening. There were so many people and yet none of them knew me, or were my friend. I was alone and depressed. I will admit that when I lost that girl I had first fell in love with I never believed love would come again. But it wasn’t until my second year of high school I fell in love for the second time. But this wasn’t the same as the girl. I was confused. I fell in love with a guy and yet I am not homosexual (though I do not have anything against homosexuality). But it really struck me, love is more than just finding a girl to marry. No, love was much more complicated.
I guess if I can become close friends with him, I will feel loved. We are friends now, but not close friends. I just wish there was some kind of manual or instruction book that just told me what I needed to do.
They say you don’t love until you have been given love. I’ve always thought, maybe someone loved me before but I have not seen it.
I’m just having so much trouble understanding, I’m in a mess here.
I don’t know what else to say so I’m going to end here.
May 26, 2015 at 4:57 pm #77333AnonymousGuestDear Name:
I am so sorry to read your sad story and the sad state of mind you are in and have been for so long. No doubt you have been and are unfortunate to be born and grow up (or as I call it in my case- and yours?- grow IN, as inside oneself) to the family you were. So was I. I too hated myself. I too wished for death and thought about it a lot from a very early age. This does not minimize your pain, the fact that others have experienced similar pain as well, does it? YI wish I could transfer to you that it is okay, whatever you feel is okay, that you fell in love with a guy is okay. I too, being a female, was confused. I felt like the man when around women even though I too am not homosexual. I too hated myself, saying very negative things to myself.I’ve been working very hard for over four years now, consistently on healing. First with the help of a good- my first good psychotherapist and then by myself within the context of my first good relationship with a man. I cannot tell you how much TIME and how SLOW the change in me is- but there is a change. There is healing. So am I wrong to think it is possible for you too?
Is healing possible for you too? Maybe not without HELP. But the problem is with the isolation you have done how do you trust another? how do you know who to trust??? No doubt not everyone is trustworthy. Maybe most people are not. I am pessimistic and am aware of people’s cruely…
If you are interested, google COMPLEX PTSD. Google INNER CRITIC, COMPLEX PTSD. In the website (I don’t remember right now but you can find it if you try) there is a description of four types of defenses that people use predominantly. You and I, I believe, are the FREEZE type, isolating. It says on that website that the only way to heal is in the context of a relationship. It seems to me a GOOD therapist is what you need.
There is nothing else I can write to you. Unless you have a specific question about what I wrote. If you have any question, any clarification of what I wrote, any specific thing you want to know, please ask me- or others.
Take care of yourself:
anitaMay 26, 2015 at 5:30 pm #77334NameParticipantThank you for being so helpful and caring.
I do not believe I can ever talk to a therapist. I have difficulty expressing my emotions. I am too insecure to even talk to someone I care about because I don’t know if they care about me. And even if they do, I still do not have the courage to initiate a conversation involving my feelings.
I want answers to my questions.
How do you know if someone cares about you?
How do you show you care about someone?
How do you become close to someone?
I have so many questions. I guess most of them are subjective and really do not have a definite answer so I would be searching forever.Do you think that if I do succeed in having a close friend, will I heal or would I have to talk to someone?
If I do end up having to talk to someone, I’m afraid that they might pity or overall change their impression of me.May 27, 2015 at 3:31 am #77347AnonymousInactiveHi NAME, I just recently read your story and It touched my heart with two emotions, sadness & hope.
First off I know you said you don’t want anyone to pity you but it’s ok if we do because you are hurting and good people like us don’t want to see you hurting and having a difficult time. What I feel really sad about is that you had a baby-sitter that treated you like shit when you were so young and vulnerable that it’s upsetting to know that when you were just a child someone who you needed guidance, love and acceptance from was indeed a predator who inflicted fear upon you. What hurts me even more is that you went and confided this information to your Dad and he did NOTHING. I understand why you didn’t tell your Mom later on because you were afraid that she would dismiss what happened too, just like your Dad did. Very shameful what your Dad did, as children for the most part do not lie about things like that. For you, I wish you were able to tell your Mom what had happened. It’s upsetting because I understand in my own personal way what you went through. Although brief, I had a baby-sitter that my mother left me with when I was 5 years old that was emotionally abusive and 1 time physically abusive by hitting me so hard that I wet myself. Luckily that evening her daughter who was an adult and a new Mom to an infant at the time witnessed what happened and rescued me by stopping her and she bathed me and cleaned me up before my Mom returned. She was a very kind soul. Here I was only 5 years old & now I’m 30 years old and I still haven’t forgotten her good deed from saving me from her abusive mother. Anyway, enough about me.
Name, I believe in you and know that there’s still hope for you as hope never goes away in life. There must be somebody in your family that you are close to? Whoever that person may be in your family, use the communication/social skills that you have with them and apply it to the person that you still care about. Please don’t be upset with me for saying this but it’s very important that you break the fear and muster up the courage to initiate a conversation about your feelings. If it was my ex, I would want her to tell me how she feels because I know that I still love my ex very much but as of right now, she chooses not to communicate, which hasn’t resolved a thing or maybe she doesn’t care, I don’t know. Either way point is – my heart is always open and able to face her emotions with an open heart, love, grace and understanding but the choice is up to her to initiate contact as I’ve done enough on my side. As for you NAME, nobody can force you to do anything but you are a valuable human being and there are people out there BELIEVE IT OR NOT that really & truly value you as a person and value your life. I have to say nothing is more attractive then when someone you love opens up their heart and soul and is completely raw about their emotions/feelings. Being open can actually brings couples and friends together and at times can mend previous relationships, from what I have witnessed. The choice is yours Name but remember you deserve happiness too.
Answer to question #1. You know when someone cares about you by their actions towards you. Communication is secondary to that. When someone truly cares, they go out of their way to make it known to you. The old saying (without being overly redundant) “Actions speak louder than words. Here is a great book for you that is called – The 5 Love Languages By Gary D. Chapman. You will love this book, it’s incredible! Sometimes words are meaningless and actions seems to say so much more and can be a lot more valuable then words, depending on the individual and the situation that is. Actions & Words are always a healthy mix though 🙂 There’s definitely nothing wrong with that. From a personal experience I know when someone has feelings for me right away when they are making eye contact with me, looking at me a lot and physically touching my body, holding my hands, briefly touching my arm with their fingertips ect. My ex Angela & I did a lot of those things together and we hugged a lot too. I would always tell her that I loved her but she already knew that by my actions and I knew she loved me too by her actions and the things she would do. Being a woman you feel love immediately bc we are a lot more sensitive. The book I suggested to you will cover a lot more of what I just mentioned, about how you know when someone cares about you. Although everybody’s love language is different, Mine is both physical & verbal of love languages and my ex-girlfriend, hers was mostly physical.
Answer to question #2. “How do you show you care about someone?” You can show you care about someone by your actions towards them, like an invitation to have an outing with you, whether it’s a hike, a coffee, small lunch or a walk in the park. The fun part is that you can choose how you want to show this person you care. You can bring them a little gift of some sort, like a candy bar or a single rose with a little note. Even a letter can be very romantic too. Or you can start with a phone call, I’m sure the person you are showing that you care will appreciate & be flattered by any one of those things I listed. Me personally I’m old school, I like spending time with the person I care about doing things outdoors together. I’m not fond of emails and electronic relationships. I enjoy getting to know someone out of the technology element, more 1 on 1 interaction, whether it’s outdoors or going to each others houses. Either way you won’t go wrong with your first initiation with showing this person that you care. Take a chance! You have nothing to lose! (((Hugs)))
Answer to question #3. You can become close with someone by sharing your passions or hobbies during conversation(s), it’s okay to open up a little bit. Remember; It’s really attractive to the person you like that likes you back when you are open, honest and raw. Be communicative with this person like you would with a family member. Show interest when they are telling you something about themselves, listen and observe and then respond however you feel is appropriate and comfortable for you. Make small talk here and there and see where it leads you. Take your time, open your heart and soul and become best friends and then lovers. No expectations but in order to attract love, a best friend or a long time partner, you must leave your heart open, be communicative and be honest about who you are as person/raw being. What makes me the happiest is when someone I love shows me who they are and talks to me about their emotions with that honest & passionate look in their eyes. Nothing draws me in more than someone who I really care about showing me who they really are. That’s why it’s important to just always be yourself but to also break those barriers of fears step by step. The word FEAR sounds scarier then what it looks because conquering fear is actually easy if you believe in yourself and are secure with yourself, that everything works out in the end anyway. Once you conquer the first hurdle of fear, you will always be brave and able to conquer fear when it presents itself to do what is needed in order to have peace of mind and a huge weight lifted off your shoulders (mentally speaking anyway.) Fear is the darkness, it’s very evil, destructive & self-sabotaging And… Love is an abundance of truth, light, and acceptance which continues to reward you with peace of mind and all the blessings you ask for in your life will happen if you can conquer your inner fears.
Name, I hope I was able to help you with the information that I shared with you this morning on the questions you had, although you asked Anita, it’s good to get another persons opinion & prospective. I have a lot of faith in you that you can DO THIS! 🙂 I believe in you & your HAPPINESS name. Love will never close the doors on you sweetheart, it’s up to you when you decide to open that door and receive all the love, affection, understanding, warmness, truth and light that has been awaiting you all this time. Whenever you are ready, LOVE will be there. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely;
Elle Tinker.
“THE ENEMY IS FEAR. WE THINK IT IS HATE;
BUT, IT IS FEAR.” – GANDHIMay 27, 2015 at 5:50 am #77353NameParticipant@ElleTinker700
Thank you for your answers. It really helps.
Again, thank you.
May 30, 2015 at 8:01 am #77498AnonymousGuestDear Name:
I just found out your post of 5/26 and eager to give you my answers to your questions:
1) “How do you know if someone cares about you?” I only know of two people who care about me. I know one 23 years and the other 6 years. I know the first cares about me because I as a young child when I picked him up from his day care he called my name with such happiness. I know he didn’t make it up, didn’t pretend to be happy to see him. He was only two or so. I saw the innocence in his face. The other is my husband. I married him late in life, less than five years ago when i was 49. I know he cares about me because he tells me so and shows me with many actions and mostly by listening to me and paying attention to what I say, remembering what I say and following it with action, like I MATTER. Still, this very morning I wanted to tell him that I feel safe with him but when I said it, I said it with a question mark at the end.2) “How do you show you care about someone?” About the child I picked up from day care- my nephew. I wanted so much to save him from the childhood I had- I felt so anxious throughout my time with him. I told him again and again things like: “I like everything that you are.. think/ feel…Everything that you are is okay with me… You are loveable, etc. etc. wanting to “brain wash” him with messages i wish I had. I tried to make him feel visible by repeating to him what he was doing: “You are playing with a red car, you are getting up, etc. WIth my husband I told him this morning that he is safe with me. I want to and hope I am giving him the safety to be himself and heal from his emotional wounds with me.
3. “How do you become close to someone?” Slowly, you risk just a LITTLE bit, a tiny, tiny bit and wait for response. Only if you get a positive response you stick around/ meet again and over time risk just a tiny, tiny bit more by sharing a bit and you wait for a response.
4. “Do you think that if I do succeed in having a close friend, will I heal or would I have to talk to someone?
If I do end up having to talk to someone, I’m afraid that they might pity or overall change their impression of me.”I read that some people do a lot of healing within the context of a good relationship and without a therapist. From personal experience I can tell you that with some therapists i did no healing whatsoever. I know many therapists are not “good enough”. Many are incompetent. I am very pessimistic about therapist competency and people’s trustworthiness in general. At times in my life I was so desparate for human connection- or from help- that I “trusted” him or her way too soon only to distrust him/ her soon enough afterwards and say my forever-goodbye to that person. Now that I have two people I trust and some healing, I am not so desperate, not as desperate and that makes it easier to take things slowly with other people…
I hope there is some help in my responses. i answered just as things arose in my mind…
I intend to check to see if you post again…!
anitaMay 30, 2015 at 8:20 am #77499NameParticipantI appreciate your answers. I just have one last question for you.
Do you think by knowing that you are loved, you are able to heal and become more happy in life?
May 30, 2015 at 8:49 am #77503AnonymousGuestDear Name:
There is no other way to heal. You have to- have to be loved so to heal. As a child you had to be loved then so to be healthy. You got sick because you weren’t loved. You still need love to be healthy, just like then, nothing has changed.this is my answer. What is love though, is my question to myself- what would be enough love for YOU to heal? What does the love you need look like? Where do you get it and how…?
Can you answer these, try to answer these, no matter how little you can muster as an answer?
anitaMay 30, 2015 at 10:37 am #77507BenzRabbitParticipantname,
Anita and others have given u good advice above.
Please read these small steps by Louise Hay who has helped a lot of people in your situation – here is the link:
http://www.healyourlife.com/12-ways-you-can-love-yourself-nowLife is tough but you have to get thru it one day at a time – no one else can do it for u – begin today !
GOD Bless !!
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