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October 21, 2015 at 9:21 am #85791AnonymousInactive
….. I am a shocker for changing my mind. I cannot commit to anything. I’ve never married. I don’t have kids. I rent cos I cant commit to a house. I even adopted an old cat because I cant commit to having a kitten for years and years. I never start anything I finish… what I can do is I can love. I can give love and give it in abundance – I just never know for how long… cos I always change my mind.
so I am happy to say to a guy – ok I’ll be your girl and I am happy to plod on through the years as they come and see what happens and I’m the faithful type – never used to be but have long since learned the joy of faithfulness… I think it’s the fear of knowing that I cannot commit to anything that makes me steer clear of commitment. and love asks for commitment. and that scares me.
I don’t honestly know where this comes from. is it because my father left when I was born? maybe. it springs to mind but I’ve had plenty of um.. i’ve ben shown how to commit by several sources and so I cant say I’ve never been shown how to or that its possible…
don’t know don’t know don’t know but for that reason it’s easier to assume that a person doesn’t just simply love me because it means they are going to want something from me and I can give everything I have but I just cant com,mit to itOR
d’y’reckon it’s a safety behaviour? like… I assume people don’t just love me plain and simple because I fear maybe it’ll be taken away – so maybe I rationalise it so that it’s not real and I don’t get any hopes up?
October 21, 2015 at 9:34 am #85796AnonymousGuestDear Pomplemous:
This is what I am guessing could have created this fear of commitment, even to buying a home and renting instead, always ready for an EXIT. This is for you to consider, if you will and it is all maybe:
As a child you were TRAPPED and anything that feels like a trap causes you fear and to combat that fear you make sure there is always an exit. Any situation in the present that has the “scent” of a trap triggers that long ago established neurological connection/ pathway that screams: “Get me out of here!”
anita
October 21, 2015 at 11:15 pm #85836AnonymousInactiveCuriouser and curiouser.
Yeah I don’t like to walk into anything I can’t walk right back out of.
Maybe I was trapped as a kid. Well yes definitely trapped but I just don’t loke looking back at these things a d fuelling the anger, now I’ve spotted it and written down the behaviour patterns maybe I can scientific experiment my way back out of it.
I’ll ponder on ot when I’m safe to. X
October 22, 2015 at 8:00 am #85843AnonymousGuestDear Pomplemous:
I didn’t understand all of your response above. What I do understand is that you are saying that indeed you were trapped as a child but you don’t want to think about it because it makes you angry and you are afraid where that anger will take you…?
Well, that anger will keep hijacking your neurological pathways (without effective intervention by a new pathway) by pointing you to the Exit again and again until you acknowledge it. (What you Resist, Persists).
anita
October 22, 2015 at 9:18 am #85858AnonymousInactivebecause quite simply I don’t feel it’s ok for me to feel sorry for myself. I don’t want to explore these places because it’s not safe – all it will do it perpetuate the anger inside and it’ll grow and who knows what bitter twisted person that could make me? I don’t want to be that person. I can see out of the corner of my eye the anger I feel but I don’t see the benefit of addressing it for me.
October 22, 2015 at 9:20 am #85859AnonymousInactivewhich is also not true – I am addressing my anger right as we speak in a separate conversation with my little brother re our parents.
I don’t know – I’ll think about it when I’m safe
I’m not as in touch as you people. I have absolutel self delusion to keep me safe. I don’t feel safe exploring the inside of me – too much has happened to even touch the surface. it’s not safe. I’ll plod on as I am
October 22, 2015 at 9:23 am #85861AnonymousInactivejust for interent sake:
this is me exploring my anger with my wee brother?
1) Oh I am not blind to what he is. Mate – before you were born that man f*cking nearly broke us. When is it ever ever ok for little children to be afraid to go home? when is it ever ok to beat someone else’s kids because they had a habit of sneaking into each other’s beds? What kind of person tells 8 year olds having a bath- now here’s a 50p piece – if there is any splash on the floor bigger than this I am whack you both. I mean WHAT??? The list is endless. 20 whacks for leaving wellies in the porch? Black eye? Hand print bruisews on the arse because someone spilt the milk and I never found who it was but I just took the whacks because Nick was more sensitive than I was. I hate that man. I hate him. The love for him I have is false but it’s the only thing I have to get through the past or I’d crumble. It’s the only element of control I have managed to create regarding him. I liked it when he hated me recently. But it wasn’t fair for you to have to carry so I persevered for that reason only.
2) But mum… she knew what was going on and she never did anything about it. She let it happen. She made excuses for his behaviour and turned it back on us like we were bad, it was convenient. I accept she was under pressure to work and I accept that she hates him for it but she never stood up against him for us kids. I carry that anger for her. I carry an anger that she spoke to him like she did endlessly like it was to big herself up or something and it made the room tense and the atmosphere sh&t and it made him stomp off and then she’d be like oh look at him blah blah when she created that atmosphere. He stopped enjoying family things because of exactly that so yes he’d eat and go away because it never ever failed to start .. mum nit picking at him. so she did partially create that atmosphere with her behaviour. Fair enough on the bed thing – we don’t know the conversations they did or didn’t have about that. Her and the frnch house – without question she deserves to have that dream – but she wanted him to pay for it and have nothing more to do with her., when he said he was going to go out there last month – she came straight to me to try and stop him. ? she accepts the diamond rings and the handbags and I can’t honestly honestly of a single thing she has put herself out to do for him. She takes the gifts, she takes the house, she belittles him.. what actually has she done?> he buys her gifts, he buys her a house, he gives her an allowance for nothing, he is an ape and incapable of love, admittedly.. but she’s malicious. He doesn’t belittle her in company. I love her . of course!!! But she is not a victim of him without him equally being a victim of her.
And frankly – it is my belief that each of us kids are victims of them both.
October 22, 2015 at 10:42 am #85865AnonymousGuestDear Pomplemous:
Of course you are angry, hurt and angry and scared. All those things and you are doing your best- as you have done all these years- to live with these feelings, with these emotions stirring in you, trying to calm them, to dismiss them, not to feel them. And it worked many times, you survived, you are working, you are here, sane enough to keep going.
You don’t have to think any differently, to do anything differently than you are thinking and doing now. You don’t have to change anything.
It is only IF and when… you want more or better for yourself and only if and when you feel safe, at your own pace. Or not.
You decide.
anita
October 22, 2015 at 11:14 am #85872AnonymousInactiveThank you. Xxx you made me do that tear thing that tells me I know you’re right. I’ll think on it.
I guess I’ve never been allowed to be angry before without some kind of repercussions so I don’t know if it’s ok to be.Thank you.
Xx
October 22, 2015 at 12:03 pm #85881AnonymousGuestDear Pomplemous:
Anger is the emotion, that energy-in-motion preparing me to fight for me. It means there i am of value enough to fight for. When we give that up, fighting for ourselves, we are defeated.
anita
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