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April 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm #30311Jamie AlexanderParticipant
How deep have you went into a trance state and what sensations did you feel in your body?
April 4, 2013 at 2:25 am #30464GuyParticipantIt depends on the meditation. Different meditation techniques give different results. Last year I attended a meditation week with a great meditation master. He taught us a couple of ancient meditation techniques that where extremely intense. One meditation was a very intense breathing technique. It felt somewhat uncomfortable during the meditation, but once I stopped meditating, it felt like every cell in my body had an orgasm of pure light and love. It was very intense,but at the same time very relaxing. This feeling lasted for about 15 to 20 minutes and it was just pure bliss. This meditation gave me a very physical experience.
Most meditations, for me at least, make me no longer be aware of my physical body. The longer I meditate, the bigger the pauses between my thoughts get, until I finally arrive at a place of pure bliss, where there is no body and no world outside of me.
There are also meditations for a specific purpose where your mind needs to stay active to some degree, like mantra meditations for example. These are very powerful also and create a different feeling than the two mentioned before.
Meditation is a skill and the more you do it, the better you get at it and the deeper you go into ‘trance’ (although I don’t like that word). What you put in meditation, you get out of it tenfold. Not only during meditation, but throughout your entire day. For me, it has been the single most important tool for transforming my life. I now meditate about one hour, first thing in the morning and one hour before I go to bed. I experience two hours of complete physical and mental relaxation, two hours of pure love and bliss, every single day. Can you imagine what effect that has on your day?
Ok, re-reading my post, I realize I went a little bit off-topic at the end. I just can’t help myself, I love meditation 🙂
April 4, 2013 at 8:58 am #30490Jamie AlexanderParticipantI need to learn about different types.
I’ve had a couple where I could feel explosions of relaxation throughout my body, but I’m trying to get to that level again.
I find that when I stop for a few days it takes me longer to get back to the deeper levels.
April 4, 2013 at 9:58 am #30557GuyParticipantYes, the longer the pauses between your meditations, the sooner the ‘effects’ wear off. If you meditate twice a day, even if it is just for 5 minutes (but longer is better), you’ll notice that from the moment you sit down, you pick up where you left off the previous meditation.
People tend to go from one meditation to another hoping to find ‘the one’ that will bring them ‘orgasmic bliss’ in minutes. There is even a program that was launched recently, that promises you a different meditation everyday for the rest of your life. But the reality is that it is better to master one basic meditation first and then move on to another one and master that one.
If ‘explosions of relaxation’ are what you are after, a basic meditation can get you there without a doubt.Try this meditation twice a day for about a week and you’ll feel very relaxed, not only during the meditation, but throughout your entire day:
– Breathe in and out through your nose. Do not try to slow down your breathing, just be aware of it. Feel the air going in and out of your nose. Focus your attention on your nostrils and the air going in and out of your nose. If your mind starts to wander, bring your focus back to your nostrils. It’s normal if thoughts come in your head, especially in the beginning, so don’t get frustrated about it. Just breathe and feel your breath, that is all you do.If you do this meditation for a couple of days, you should definitely feel very relaxed during the meditation and throughout your day. After doing this meditation for about a week or two, you can add a little variation.
Still focus on your nostrils and the air going in and out of your nose, but when you breathe in, imagine you are breathing in ‘pure love’ and filling your lungs and body with it. When you breathe out, you imagine breathing out gratitude.
After doing this for about a week (or maybe two, it varies per person), you’ll notice a feeling of love and gratitude throughout your entire day.Just like with anything else, learn the basics first and build from there.
April 4, 2013 at 12:09 pm #30575Jamie AlexanderParticipantThanks.
Do you think it’s OK to try 2 meditations at the same time, but different parts of the day?
Do you think it’s a good meditation what you observe a part of your body like the back of your head?
Sorry for the questions lol
April 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm #30577GuyParticipantSure, you could do that. The key is to choose your meditation and then do it every day. Even the most basic meditation can get you in a very deep state of relaxation and/or bliss. So, pick an easy routine (which can be a different meditation in the morning and the evening) and stick with it.
You could focus on the back of your head or any other body part for that matter. The key is to keep your focus at one spot and to let your thoughts distract you less and less. If you can stop thinking (or at least calm your thoughts) by focusing on the back of your head, then go ahead 🙂
May I ask why you choose the back of the head? Is there a specific reason for this?
April 4, 2013 at 1:03 pm #30584Jamie AlexanderParticipantThanks guy!
I chose the back of my head because I meditate lying down. I observe the back of my head where it touches the pillow. I lucid dream and once I’m in a meditative state I can send my body to sleep and pass into the dream world without losing consciousness.
But I actually want to start exploring deeper states without going into a dream all the time.
April 5, 2013 at 1:55 am #30704GuyParticipantCool! I have been intrigued by lucid dreaming for a long time, but haven’t gotten around to actually trying it.
April 5, 2013 at 11:16 am #31210Jamie AlexanderParticipantYou’ll nail it quickly when you do give it a go.
Try waking up 60-90 minutes earlier than usual, read a book for 30-60 minutes then meditate lying down.
Once you are deep enough in you can try and move your awareness out of the body.
Your body should fall asleep and you won’t lose consciousness.
I say wake up early because your REM cycles are longer towards the end of your sleep.
April 5, 2013 at 11:24 am #31214GuyParticipantThat’s it? I thought it would be much harder. I will definitely give it a try.
Thanks for the tip 🙂April 5, 2013 at 11:53 am #31221Sheila McCannParticipantOoh, what a great conversation!
I am most likely to slip into a trance state while writing ( this produces the best writing because it flows out from the subconscious)
Although I’ve never really pushed the envelope with this and often wondered how deep that rabbit hole goes…
April 5, 2013 at 11:55 am #31223Jamie AlexanderParticipantIt’s not simple, but it does get easy. That was just a basic explanation aimed at someone who meditates a lot 🙂
April 5, 2013 at 12:17 pm #31231GuyParticipant🙂 ah ok! I am definitely going to try it out for a couple of days. Will see how it goes.
@ Sheila: I don’t think there is an end to the rabbit hole. It’s very deep, that’s for sure. And filled with bunnies 🙂
April 6, 2013 at 3:11 pm #31328Sheila McCannParticipant@Guy : )
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