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April 24, 2014 at 12:01 am #55284learningParticipant
This is my first post here. I am really loving this site and all the wisdom shared. Thank you for it. I just found it recently.
2 weeks ago today my world, and my heart, were shattered into a billion pieces, like little shards of glass that have been cutting me every day, every minute since. Like glass slivers, sometimes the pieces stop moving under my skin and don’t hurt, but the ache is still there. Other times I am in agony.
Here’s the back story.
Last year I met a guy online. We discovered a connection with each other on many levels. We would talk daily, all day, and at night we would play an online game together. At first it was great. He was so fun to talk to. We eventually started talking on Skype several nights a week, for 6,8 10 hours. After awhile, he told me that his gf had left him, and shortly after that he began being much more attentive to me, dropping hints that we would meet soon and that he wanted to be with me.Then he lost his job and disappeared for over a month. I was very worried and afraid I had lost him. He had said he would remain in contact but he didn’t. While I was becoming interested in him romantically as well, my complete and original intention with him (and I thought we both agreed on this) was to be great friends. He’d said the same. He finally came back online and we had a few very short IM’s, no calls. He said he’d been busy and was depressed. I helped line up a job for him, he applied and got it. All he had to do was move here. He had a place to stay and everything. We made a tentative scheduled date for the move but he didn’t come. He told me a few days after that he wanted to come to me but just didn’t want that job. I was hurt, but I told him I understood, and I did. He said he still wanted to meet and cared for me very much, so we planned another weekend day. He canceled the night before, telling me his family had shown up. I was hurt again but I told him again that I understood, although by this point I was starting to doubt that he was really going to come.
He started spending less time with mee, only showing up online once or twice a week. Once or twice he called on Skype, or texted me, but really contact was very minimal and I was beginning to understand that he was pulling away from me for some reason, but I didn’t know what. Whenever I asked him if everything was ok he would say yes. One day we were talking and he made a comment that I thought was a joke at the time, but reflecting on it later that night I felt as if he was indirectly telling me that he no longer wanted me in that way. Throughout these incidents I had begun to search for ways to fix my heart that was breaking and discovered sites like this one that discuss healing and loving yourself and how we project and are mirrored. I was having a difficult time with the comment he’d made and was sobbing in my bed hours later after he’d signed off, trying to heal as well as let go, and he texted me asking if I was ok. I was surprised because he had no idea that his comment had upset me, or that I was beginning to try to let him go, unless he felt it cosmically. I wasn’t ok, but I didn’t tell him that. He made some idle chit chat then after a little while he told me that he doesn’t want to lose me, I’m so good to him, understanding and patient, etc and would I be his? He said so many beautiful things to me. He also did some mild sexting, which was shocking. I couldn’t believe that all of this emotion was coming from him, he’d never spoken that way before.
I told him ok, I would be his, and when would he come see me and make it real. He said he was mine, one hundred percent mine, and that he WOULD come see me, guaranteed, but that it couldn’t be for a couple weeks. I had my doubts but I went along with it. I actually felt like he had probably just been rejected and was coming to me for an ego stroke, (which I think he has done in the past but I shrugged it off back then because I wanted the friendship, and didn’t care about a relationship). So, for 2 weeks he kept this up, calling me his, telling me he was mine, calling me pet names which he’d never done before. But I still only saw/heard from him once or twice a week, never on the weekends. That raised another flag because he’d always spent the weekends online with me. Then he added me to a social networking site he’d recently begun using. The first thing I saw when I logged in was a picture of him and his girlfriend in each others arms, and it wasn’t me in the picture. He had confirmed in the comments to someone else that this woman was indeed his girlfriend and had been for roughly the same two weeks I “had been”. I was quite literally in shock. I went numb, I got physically ill and had to leave work. I felt like I had caught them in bed together. I texted him telling him that I was glad he found someone, and that I felt betrayed and lied to and numerous other feelings but that I would remain his friend because that’s what our original relationship was and that’s what I had wanted all along, and that I just wanted him to be happy.
He never replied. He deleted me from the social networking site right away, deleted me everywhere online and that was that. I was crushed. Not only had I lost my fake, 2 week relationship, I had also lost my friend. As an introvert, my friends are few, and extremely close. Losing one cuts deeply (not to say that it doesn’t hurt for an extrovert also). My mother and sister came over and helped me purge him from my life, his phone number, pictures, anything I had saved on the computer, the game, everything went. I lasted 8 days without contacting him. Then, I got weak, got drunk (I am not a drinker) and went online again to see him. I was so tired of all the emotion I had been going through. I wanted some normalcy, to feel like my world hadn’t ended. While I was online I didn’t speak to him but he messaged me and told me that he missed me. I didn’t respond at first but when I finally did I told him that I missed him too but he hurt me badly. I told him again that I am willing to be friends, but no more lies. He went offline. I have seen him in this game several times since (I am the only one he plays it with). In fact, he’s been on every single day, always around the time that I am, even though I have changed my routine. Because he’s been on so much ever since this happened, sometimes multiple times a day (also very unusual for him), including the days he’s normally with her and not online at all, I feel like he’s seeking me out even though he refuses to acknowledge me. (I don’t talk to him, I am just there playing).
I do not think it was intentional, that he set out to hurt me this way. I think he got trapped reaching out to two girls, not expecting a yes from either one (he has self-esteem issues), but both said ok, so he got scared, took the easy way out and went with the one that was closer, that he already knew. I keep going back and forth on my emotions. When I am strong I am focused on me and my healing. When I am weak I want to reach out and ask him WHY?? Why would you hurt me this way? Why won’t you respond? Everything was great! Why couldn’t you just tell me yourself and we could have been just fine. Why would you end us? There was nothing wrong..
I realized today that he must just not want me in his life, and no matter how much that hurts I have to respect his decision and stop going into the game I love so much because it hurts to be there. It hurts to see him there and know that he doesn’t want my friendship anymore, no matter how bad I want to give it to him. Maybe he feels too bad and can’t face me, or maybe he truly just doesn’t care, although I don’t believe he doesn’t have any emotions over this. I have some resentment about not being able to play online because of his choices (no other games interest me). I am working to let that go and find other things to do even though I don’t want to. I do know this isn’t about me, it is about him and his journey so I am glad that I am not feeling the guilt of “what did I do wrong”. But I am feeling everything else.
I am sorry this is so long. I am just so torn up and hurt. I am trying to forgive, myself and him, I am not as angry as I was, I just want my friend, but I also realize he is not being a good friend and if I am truly honest with myself, if I look back at the friendship we did have, it wasn’t always great either. I am just now trying to learn how to stay in the present and focused on me but its so hard. I’ve never been one to do that because I was brought up that it was selfish. I know one of the lessons I’m to learn from this is that I need to love me, because I don’t, and I have a lot of other things built up inside me that are stopping me from being truly happy. I have my first appointment with a therapist next week. I am nervous but I don’t want to feel this way anymore. I just wish he would have given me the closure I desire and stop making me feel like he still wants to be friends yet doesn’t talk to me. His actions have NEVER matched his words. I guess when it’s long distance you never really know them unless and until you finally meet and spend real time together. I’m so sad at the loss, but perhaps it’s more that I perceived something that wasn’t really there, or at least not as I imagined it. That’s also very hard to accept and doesn’t make the pain any less real. This is all very frightening, and I know that’s where my issues come from – fear. Am I moving in the right direction?
Thank you to anyone who reads my mini-novel, again, sorry for the length. Reaching out for help is hard for me.
April 24, 2014 at 12:43 am #55285The RuminantParticipantHello!
I just read your post (you don’t need to apologize for it’s length; you write what you want to write and those who want to read it, will). I could relate to a lot of things in your post. In the same time it’s interesting to see someone else go through things that I have went through: there’s more clarity and compassion, but also it’s hard to give any concrete advice, as I think I’m still struggling with some of the same things you are.
One thing that I noticed, which I know I do myself as well, is that you readily have understanding for his lack of respect for you. I have done that same thing, but it’s interesting to see the same in someone else. My big sister isn’t anything like that and she will call out anyone on their BS and places the responsibility where it should be. Her way of handling things sometimes makes me feel really safe, because I know that I am way too forgiving in an unhealthy way. So I feel a bit like a big sister to you, when I read how you are so understanding towards this person who really did not treat you very nicely. Sure, he is free to do what ever he wants with his life, and sure, he might have self-esteem issues. He is still responsible for his own actions and how he treats other people. I do think that lack of respect and the blurred lines of online relationships are rather common these days, but it might do us good to set some proper boundaries and not accept the kind of behavior that hurts us. I sometimes imagine my own inner child, desperate to be understood and cared for, and then I, the adult, keep placing her in situations where she hurts and I do nothing. I have the power to keep those who hurt her at an arms length. But I digress…
Are you able to block him in your game, so that you wouldn’t see him when he’s online? Taking some time off from the game might do you good as well. Think of it as a healing holiday. It doesn’t have to be permanent, and you can always go back, but just stay away for couple of weeks from this place that keeps pouring salt to your wounds.
Also, perhaps acknowledge that you need care as well. You’re worried about him, but it is his job to worry about himself and your job to worry about you.
I know that you know all this and I also know how hard it is to let go. It’s only been couple of weeks. I can understand the shattering and how it feels like when all of a sudden your reality isn’t want you thought it was. It takes time to heal from that. I’m sure that you are on some level desperately trying to put the genie back in the bottle (not sure if that’s the correct idiom to use), and make everything “normal” again. It’s just not going to happen, and talking with him isn’t going to fix things. He doesn’t have the answer to you that would take the pain away. I am sorry you are going through this and I know that it is painful.
Please remember that compassion and forgiveness isn’t the same thing as allowing those who hurt us to continue doing so. I have been in your situation many times with many different people, and after gaining a bit more confidence and love towards myself, I have decided to let go of certain people who are repeat offenders of making me feel really bad and humiliated. Sure, they don’t do it on purpose, but why uphold relationships like that? It is easier to let go of them, when you’re not in the middle of an emotional turmoil. Letting go comes naturally when the storm has passed and you feel better and more at peace.
I am very much looking forward to what other people have to say, as I would like to learn more as well.
April 24, 2014 at 2:36 am #55292AlbanaParticipantHello,
I read your story and im really sorry about your situation,your hurt feelings:(My opinion is that he has problems with himself,he is depressive and inconsistent.
My question: Why do you need him even as a friend? He is just hurting you and nothing else.
Please do not tread on yourself.Ruminant said well that Letting go comes naturally when the storm has passed…
I had a bad experience 3 months ago and believe me i was like you but i just understood that i cannot force someone to stay with me. I have my weak moments of course(yesterday for example didnt go to work because i had anxiety and headache) but when i think that i did my best and everything it makes me feel better and think that maybe he wasnt for me.
Please just try to be calm,go the therapist appointment and im sure you will be sober and with high-self esteem.
ps: read my topic here http://dev.tinybuddha.com/topic/relationship-in-distance-how-can-i-get-my-ex-back-help/ It helped me a looooot and i hope that it will help you too
Regards
AlbanaApril 24, 2014 at 9:35 am #55310learningParticipantThe Ruminant and Albana ~ thank you so much for your kind words. I am sorry you have had to go through this as well.
It is curious that you notice I am forgiving when he is disrespectful. I guess that when it happens once or twice, yes, I think it is disrespectful, but I am forgiving because I understand that no one is perfect, we all have bad moods or other things that cause us to mistreat someone else, and would want to be forgiven if I did that. I guess I just let it happen too much. Someone told me once that I give people too many chances. I always thought I was being selfish if I didn’t. It didn’t occur to me that allowing that behavior is not standing up for myself.
Even if I were to block him in the game, where I could not see his online status, I would still be able to see him playing. I tried, but seeing him, watching him behave as if nothing is wrong and I’m completely invisible hurts. I finally admitted that I was going in there in the hopes that he would reach out, accept me and my forgiveness and we would be friends again. Some people have a hard time reaching out when they’ve hurt someone. I was hoping that’s all this was, because of the mixed signals he’s giving me. I have a very close friend, also long distance, where something vaguely resembling this incident happened, but he apologized and came after me and made sure I knew that he was sorry and that he values me. He still does that and it’s been 3 years since it happened. I guess I was hoping this would end up the same. That I’d still have my forever friend that I thought I had.
I think part of the reason I am having a hard time moving on is because I am still in shock that the world as I knew it is gone. My routines are all a mess, my head is a mess, my heart is a mess. I wish it didn’t take so much time. Last night I found pictures of him on my computer, that I thought I had gotten rid of. I found them after I had decided I wouldn’t be in the game anymore for a few weeks which I was extremely upset about, because he’d been online and was ignoring my presence, and seeing the pics made me feel even more terrible and cry all over again.
I just can’t believe its over. I was blindsided by it I guess, which is why I don’t understand. And I know he won’t ever tell me. One day we are great, 12 hours later he stabs me in the heart and leaves, as if I was nothing to him, and I know that isn’t true. He did care at one point. He completely changed. I have been hoping that it’s just because he’s going through a hard time right now. I have placated myself thinking that he’s hurting too, that he didn’t mean to hurt me and that’s why he still plays “with” me but won’t talk to me. That perhaps that is him reaching out in the only way he can at this time. But, when he does finally see that I have come online, he never stays for very long. So I end up thinking that either it hurts him to see me after what he did, so he leaves, or that he doesn’t care to see me, so he leaves. Either way, it hurts. I have been hoping that this would blow over and we could just go back to laughing and having a good time, without the relationship BS.
That’s the hard part. He was my escape from the real world, and so was that game. He understood me, and I haven’t connected with anyone the way I did with him. I miss the friendship we had before he behaved this way. I suppose I will find someone else someday but at my age and with a child at home, I am very doubtful.
Thank you both again for your wisdom.
April 24, 2014 at 11:09 am #55313AlbanaParticipantDear Learning,
What can i say??? Reading your post just made me cry as im im too weak this period and sad as well but pleaseee dont justify him,just try to find a solution to help yourself. I used to justify my ex also but i still remain to the same conclusion: they will come if they wants to come,dont force anything. Just disappear… Maybe is a drastic desicion but at me it made a good efect.
Dont know what to say else…really!!!
I remain at your disposal everytime you want to talk.
Love AlbanaApril 24, 2014 at 2:28 pm #55316learningParticipantI had decided I would take it slow and remove myself little by little, which would cause more pain long-term, but a little comfort now. Ripping the band-aid right off has never worked well for me. But, after how I felt last night, I decided that it is better if I just remove myself entirely. I got to be a part of his world for awhile, and now it is time for me to go, and not just because he’s kicked me away, but because it is better for me. I suppose the better way to say that is he was a part of my world for awhile. He introduced me to many things, taught me a lot, even saved my life, quite literally, over the phone. I think that’s part of my strong attachment. I can always go back to the game after I don’t feel the pain anymore, if I am still interested in it. But I am certain that will take a very, very long time. Much longer than the original 30 days I have given myself for a break. I am feeling strong at this very moment but I know that I will feel weak again and may give in before that time is up. Last time I made it only 8 days and they were torture. For now though, I will try to stay strong.
Thank you so much Albana, much love to you.
April 28, 2014 at 12:27 am #55499learningParticipantWell, I just found out that the whole time he was doing this with me, he was with at least 3 other girls, and is engaged to one of them, that I know and worked with online. When he had said he was going to come to me, then didn’t, its because he was with her. When I saw that particular pic of them together I didn’t realize who she was because our positions were online volunteers and I hadn’t seen a pic of her. Someone else told me tonight who she is. Everyone in our circle knew about them apparently, everyone except me. I was told I couldn’t tell anyone about us because he would get fired, but apparently they were pretty public and it was ok because no one believed it so he didn’t get in any trouble. There seems to have been several others at the same time as well.
I guess he’s engaged to her, and is also with this other girl who he called his girlfriend on facebook, the one I saw when he added me. I don’t really get it since both girls are on his facebook but I don’t think I’ll ever understand and I’m pretty sure it will take a very long time to get over this. I think that he is a narcissist, that perhaps he could even be clinically classified as NPD. Everything seems to fit; the brainwashing, the making me feel lower than low, the pushing my friends and family away from me so that I was only focused on him, the multiple women and all the lies.
I feel sick to my stomach that this could have been avoided if someone had told me about them. All this time, and heartbreak, and now I have to go to a therapist. I thought I was doing better, moving on a little, but then I hear about all this tonight and I’m right back at the anger, self-blame (I should have known, should have seen it), guilt, disbelief, grief, despair, humiliation. The whole relationship was a lie…
I was just being used. I never thought anything like this would ever happen to me. I was a strong person, now I am weak and messed up in my head because of this. I have never felt like anyone’s garbage before. Now I feel like his garbage and stupid and ashamed that I didn’t see it. I do not know how to forgive myself.
April 28, 2014 at 4:55 am #55504The RuminantParticipantI’m sorry you’re finding yourself in this situation. There is an upside to the most recent revelation, as you’re quite likely not wanting to go back to him.
I became involved with someone years ago, on an online dating site. I thought he was “the one” and all that. He said the right things and everything seemed great. We met, I felt uncomfortable in his presence, but decided to not listen to myself and got on with the relationship. I started to go a bit crazy with him, doubting myself and feeling weird. Honestly, I can’t remember everything about it. The whole thing fell apart, and I felt miserable. Then someone pointed me out to look into Narcissism, and it all hit me, as I was reading through the descriptions. This man was like a text book narcissist. He called himself god, I laughed, not taking him seriously (and thinking that he had a really weird sense of humor). Stuff like that. Then I started to realize that my previous relationship before him had eerily similar feel to it. The push and pull. Idolizing and then being treated like dirt. Emotional blackmail, never quite knowing if it was OK to be me or not. I had thought that I was the world’s worst girlfriend, and that relationship had a very big impact on me and how I viewed myself. Then I suddenly realized that it wasn’t about me. It could’ve been anyone, and it had been someone else in my shoes previously; I heard later that the man in my previous relationship had driven several women crazy.
I joined some support internet forum for victims of Narcissists. It was helpful in a way, that I could understand how many of the aspects of my relationships weren’t normal. I had accepted them as normal. In a way, it was all very scary. I started to doubt all people, as did many other victims. I saw the same lack of compassion in many of the people in my life, and I was just really scared. That did pass a bit, though I couldn’t fully start trusting again. The good thing was, that I did break up all potential relationships that started to go down a familiar road.
More things happened in my life that weren’t so great, until finally I just shattered. Everything fell apart. It was horrible and it was painful, but there was hope and I worked on healing myself. I went to therapy, that didn’t work for me at all, I disliked the therapist (go with a therapist that makes you feel safe, you can choose). I joined Al-Anon, that was filled with other codependent people, who interestingly also told stories about relationships with Narcissists.
My healing has now continued for a while, and I’m more of myself now than I’ve ever been. There are times when I feel weak and scared, but most of the times I trust myself, and that seems to be the key to a lot of things.
I am telling you all of this so that you can put into perspective what I’m telling you now. I know that you are still in an emotional turmoil and probably can’t see very clearly, but I hope that this can be of some help, when it’s the right time:
1) You dodged a bullet. Had you continued to be with him, even as a friend, it might’ve done considerably more damage to you.
2) Be kind to yourself and possibly seek help from support groups, so that you can hear other stories. It helps to understand that you’re not the only one. It helps to alleviate some of the shame that you might be feeling.
3) When it’s time, take responsibility of your own part in everything. You knew something was wrong, but decided to believe him instead of yourself. I have been there and done that myself, so please don’t take this as a victim blaming. It is trust in oneself, having healthy boundaries, having a healthy relationship with reality and loving oneself that will keep you safe. Emotional maturity is a deterrent for those who are emotionally immature. Illusions and fairy tales have their own place in life, but they’re not the basis of a healthy relationship. Any relationship, including the one you have with yourself.
4) Do not escape reality, as reality is your friend. It’s the place where you know what is real and what isn’t. Getting reacquainted with your senses and your surroundings, mindfulness, also helps you with trusting your own senses. When you trust your own senses, and you trust yourself, you’ll also start to trust your gut instincts. In my personal experience, it is always right, and I so often have not listened to it and went ahead with things anyway, and I have ended getting hurt. I am still glad that I have this inborn ability to detect danger. It’s just easy to dismiss when someone is being more convincing, so you need the self-esteem and the courage to be you and trust yourself.Like I said, I am sorry that you find yourself in your situation. I do wish that you can get through it and learn new things that help you to become a stronger, healthier and happier individual. It requires a lot of work, but it is all worth it.
You are loved.
April 28, 2014 at 7:56 am #55513@Jasmine-3ParticipantWow, The Ruminant. Speechless with ur response. Just awesome :). You are sure to inspire many with this post.
April 28, 2014 at 12:19 pm #55529KelsiParticipantHello!
Do not apologize for the length! You have come here to ask for guidance and some understanding and we are here to help you! First and foremost, I respect your attempts at forgiving not only him, but yourself. Sometimes we forget that forgiveness comes from within and it is very essential to acknowledge that. Also, I completely understand the pain and heartbreak you are going through, as I have met plenty of guys online (most long-distance). I am currently seeing someone who lives about 30-45 away from I, and we both have originally met through social media. The problem is that I will be going home for the summer and the next year due to my classes and school ending (transferring and such), and our relationship will be about a 3-hour-distance. I find this frightening; we are in the early stages of getting to know each other and that distance can cause some great damage if a good foundation is not built. So I empathize and know the struggles you are going through trying to heal because that foundation was never built between you two.
We are only human, and make mistakes. He may or may not have been confused about who he wanted to be with, and like you said, chose the one closer and more convenient to him. But he also may have had intentions that were not true or genuine and surely would have not made you happy in the long run. You have to remember that you two created a relationship that was strictly through the use of technology…no human contact was ever made between you two. He could have been someone you instantly knew was not for you, but because you both never met in person, you hold onto this false idea or belief that he was someone you could have been happy with (I’ve done it many times and am still trying to learn my lesson).
The best advice I can offer you is that life does in fact go on, and that there is someone out there for you. I believe in something greater than ourselves. I believe in God and I believe in fate, and I know there is someone out there for me. But we also go through many relationships in the meantime to learn more about ourselves and more about other people. I know it hurts now and the pain can be unbearable at times, but this healing process becomes a very valuable lesson and one that you can hold onto for the rest of your life. Focus on improving things in your life and just be content with the fact that you are alive and well, ready to take on every new day that comes your way.
Letting go is one of the hardest things we can do for ourselves, because we hold onto “what if” or “why”?, when really we need to focus on closure and acceptance. Things don’t work out the way we want to in life, but that’s…life. First you must seek happiness from within yourself and then you can find and provide happiness for others. He is doing what he has to do to get by, and so will you. Take a deep breath, everything will. be. okay. 🙂
~Namaste~
April 28, 2014 at 3:33 pm #55538sonkamooParticipantI understand how you feel.I am also having a very tough time letting go of someone and what happened.Some days I wake up ok,other days totally hopeless,lethargic and cant face the prospect of another day.It was horrible today!!!! Other days I am so angry and hurt. I never ever felt pain like this before EVER especially when it comes to someone I thought was a good friend.It hard letting go of someone from your past that was in my life so long and there if I needed someone to talk to now I cant anymore. He hurt me real bad…..
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