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    GL
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    Dear Bluesses,

    There’s some things that are unclear about your relationship and some things to clarify.

    First, how is your communications with each other? A relationship requires that all involved parties voice out their thoughts and feelings about their situation together, which it seems like you were bottling up some things before so if that hasn’t led you to explode until now, that’s both good and bad. Good in that you are finally expressing your thoughts, your partner might have unconsciously sense your inner fury though, but bad in that the language in which you are expressing them might put your partner on the defensive which makes you go on the defensive. When frustrated, people’s language tend to sound accusatory rather than neutral or compassionate. Think of how you are communicating with each other right now, are you two listening to each other or are you accusing each other of something? Though you do have to keep in mind your husband’s anger issues.

    How to use “I-statements”

     

    Your husband was incorrect about the stress being non-transferable. Emotions are very contagious, especially when you are female and when most of society expect females to be socialized caretakers. So that stress that your husband is letting out? That is being transferred to you in some form which will stress you out, regardless of whether you want to feel it or not. But that your husband refuses to acknowledge that seeing him stress stresses you out, that’s a red flag. In other word, he is refusing to take responsibility for bringing in the stress into your relationship. Even if he is the one feeling it, it doesn’t mean that you don’t see it. He’s obviously telling you about it, and if that doesn’t stress you out or leave a bad taste, then that would be weird. So yeah, you’re implicitly involved with his stress.

    You don’t mention much of how he is manipulative, but if he is manipulating you in anyway, then it is recommended that you spend some time and space away from your husband to sort out your thoughts and feelings. By staying with your husband while you try to process your emotions, he will sway you emotionally to his logic. So if you can, go stay with a friend or your family who you can recruit to act as a sound board for you as you let out your thoughts, the good and bad. Make sure to write it down, it’ll help to clear your mind, but also let you see the bigger picture. And it’ll help you decide what to do with your relationship.

    Above all, value your health first and foremost. Your husband might be your husband, but that doesn’t mean staying in a relationship that causes damage to your overall health. You have a serious responsibility to yourself to see to it that you take care of yourself because only when you are healthy can you give your attention and energy into caring for another person. But if the person you want to care about is actually dragging you down, then it’s not worth it because in the end, he doesn’t value himself nor does he value you to care if you’re suffering from his actions and emotions. Also, he might be going through counseling, but if he really wanted to change, you would already be seeing him actually try and not just going through his day as per usual with all the anger and rage.

    Keep in mind all of these things as you think about all the pros and cons about your relationship and if it is still a relationship you want to keep fighting for until you can’t help, but feel too tire to care.

    Take care.

    #274633
    Anonymous
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    Dear Bluesses:

    Your husband is an anxious man. Anxious people aren’t happy. I know because I have been significantly anxious for decades. Anxiety does not allow happy feelings, it makes calm impossible. There are breaks the brain takes, some calm and joy here and there, but most of the time it is a dreadful existence. Also, anger and fear go together like peas and carrots.

    It is interesting that you presented your husband’s anxiety as a school of thought, a value system (“we come from two different schools of thoughts and value systems“). A school of thought and a value system suggests to me that you think that your husband thoughtfully chooses to be anxious and values anxiety.

    You referred to him as Type A, and you wrote about yourself: “I am very Type B, I like my life calm, tranquil and it (used to) take a lot to get me agitated over stuff I can’t control”- again, suggesting as I see it, that you like your life calm and he likes it not calm, that he likes to get agitated over stuff.

    If the marriage is to work, if it does, it will take two things to start:

    1. He controls some of the expressions of his anxiety when in your presence so it doesn’t overwhelm you. You can agree on specific behaviors that you want him to stop in your presence.

    2. You understand that him “ALWAYS stressing about things that are not under his control… constantly frustrated and angry with stuff not working out as expected” is not a school of thought, or a value system, or a type, as in being born that way or being this way permanently. Neither is he a narcissist, most likely (an additional label you presented for him)No, it is anxiety, a disease. Healing is possible although difficult and slow.

    Therefore you don’t blame him for his anxiety. His anxiety is the consequence of bad things that happened to him as a child. Work with him to reduce his anxiety, work with him as a team.

    anita

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    Anonymous
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    #274683
    Bluesses
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    Hi GL and Anita,

    First off, I wanted to thank you both for taking the time to read through my troubles and providing me with your thoughts. I realize I was unclear about a few things that might make this easier:

    GL,

    I don’t believe the issues have been bottled up, on the contrary, I speak my mind often and the trouble is that the same issues keep popping up with little respite. I do believe in speaking my mind in a timely manner so I don’t give him constructive criticism or critical feedback in the midst of one of his outbursts. I don’t want him to feel that I am judging him while he is already upset over something. I want to help him overcome this problem – so while he is in the midst of a being angry or stressed out, I stay quiet, tell him that I understand and empathize with his issue and try to help out or take it off his plate.

    We have improved our communication and we are mindful of using phrases like “When this happens, I feel…” or “This makes me feel this way because…” rather than accusing each other completely.

    I find him manipulative, in that he is telling me I have a self-esteem/ lack of self-care issue because of which the constant stressful environment stresses me out. I think it isn’t fair for him to shuck the responsibility of being the perpetrator of unbalance/ anger in the first place. After our big blow-out with him tearing the forms, he has been holding me accountable for following a set routine with gym and waking up early etc. whilst there has been no mention of what he is doing on his end to resolve the problem. He has also taken to being distant and cold because he says he is hurting. He is apparently tired of me telling him that there is a consequence of putting us through this stress/ anxiety-laden environment and it might end in me not being able to take it any more. That makes me feel that all his words of love and expressions of unconditional love amount to nothing. In the face of me telling I have had enough and he needs to do something about his temper and negativity, I have to pay the price and deal with his hostility and practise a higher degree of self-care and self-love. This is starting to be more of a punishment and less of a fix.

    Anita,

    Thank you for taking the time to write back to me. I want to clarify a few things – when I say we come from two different value systems and schools of thought, I was trying to provide some context on how we are as two people and not describing his anxiety as a school of thought. We approach problem-solving differently, we deal with people and relationships differently, our approaches to work and managing our time is not the same. He embraces and sometimes creates conflicts to address an issue, I am more of a diffuser and tend to nip issues in the bud. I am far more diplomatic and he believes in being direct, sometimes abrasive to unassuming people (he swears a lot, it’s not an issue for me, just shedding some light on some ways in which we are different).

    That being said, I absolutely believe that being angry with long hold-times on a call, back-and-forth over insurance claims, throwing the remote control or phone or GPS because they’re not performing as expected, tearing forms etc are a CHOICE. I get angry, I have extreme emotions, we all do, I don’t fault him for being anxious or stressed, it’s natural and I empathize – my problem is the way he chooses to express it. And ‘chooses’ is the keyword here. I channel my anger in many different ways so it doesn’t affect our dynamic and the stable environment of our household. When he sees me distressed, he automatically goes into a problem-solving mode. It affects him, he wants to fix it. When I see him distressed, I also want to help and fix it – but it is very difficult to reach him because of the frequency and intensity of his reaction.

    We have been in therapy for our issues. We are reaching out to get professional help but in the interim I don’t want to feel like I’m being punished for bringing these issues to light.

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 3 months ago by Bluesses.
    #274693
    Anonymous
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    Dear Bluesses:

    Quality couple counseling is an excellent idea.

    Since you don’t have children, it being three years of marriage, maybe separation is also an excellent idea. After all, won’t it be so much easier to choose a different man (in the future, following separation) who handles anger better, providing you with a calm environment?

    With this man, it will take years of struggle, with successful therapy before he is able to handle anger better on a consistent basis.

    anita

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