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February 15, 2019 at 11:17 am #280343AnonymousGuest
Dear Nichole:
It is possible in 2019 no less that it was possible in 1019. Humanity was not less corrupt then than it is now. It was more corrupt. For example it was legal then for parents, as far as I know, to kill their children simply because they were inconvenienced, or for whatever reason, no requirement to explain.
Look and you will find a pocket of sanity in the world, a refuge, a place of kindness and respect. If you keep looking for it where it is not, of course you will not find it. Look elsewhere, where you didn’t look yet. We don’t have to keep our focus on the family we were born to, we are not owned by our parents or siblings, or by anyone. No need to keep your focus on this one man in Florida. There are other men you didn’t meet yet.
anita
February 15, 2019 at 4:22 pm #280401NicholeParticipantSuch a scary thought to me. Life is altering so so fast in ways I never would have imagined. Even from 6 months ago. I feel afraid and alone. Having a terrible time at an amusement park. Noticing and learning much. But also hurting and mourning what I thought was a bond for life with my family. It is heart breaking to say the least.
February 16, 2019 at 5:15 am #280431AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I think you are on the path, what I call the Healing Path, you are on it, congratulations!
Must be weird to get a congratulations message when you just wrote that your heart is breaking, isn’t it, that you feel afraid and alone. But you are on the path because you are “Noticing and learning much”, because you are awakening to Reality.
“hurting and mourning what I thought was a bond for life with my family”- that bond a child forms early to family, parent or parents, siblings, that bond doesn’t disappear, it is always there. The awakening to reality is when we realize it is a one sided bond, a love that is not reciprocated. And we realize this is how it has been all these years, we just didn’t want to see it.
There is nothing more precious than an honest, loving bond with another, nothing feels better. As you can see in this trip, a restaurant won’t do it, an amusement park will not substitute for a lack of an honest, loving bond or bonds.
It is only when you see where to no longer look for what you need, that you are free to look for what you need where you are likely to find it.
Endure the lonely feeling, the sadness, let your feelings be, best you can. Healing is in allowing the feelings to be, it is necessary for the purpose of learning and moving forward on this path.
anita
February 16, 2019 at 3:56 pm #280461NicholeParticipantAnita you are so right. Sometimes I feel like you are super natural by the things you say. I’m having a panic attack reading these things and all that I am going through. This was the worst idea at the worst time. I should have saved my money and went on a stay cation by myself. I am so hurt and disgusted by the betrayal. This trip turned out so different than what I expected. I am so disgusted by my brother who I am closest with and the way he has treated me this trip. He has been so passive aggressive and cruel to me. It’s as if he has a grudge against me but won’t communicate in a healthy way. Since his relationship with his new girlfriend he has been a new person but this. These actions are painful. I have to fly home with these people. I’m so hurt. I don’t know how much more hurt I can take. I’m sorry if I sound redundant but the betrayal never ends everywhere I look and turn is another realization and another betrayal. How could this be happening to me. How can I remain strong. I feel dead and empty right now. I feel like I need to go to ER with these chest pains and stress.
February 17, 2019 at 5:19 am #280505AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
Resolve to never invest again in your family of origin: in any of your brothers and their partners, do not spend a single dollar in an effort to see any of them. If I understand correctly, your older brother’s child is a baby or very, very young and is not emotionally attached to you, correct? So it will not hurt her if you don’t visit her.
Put an end to this one type of waste: your money. That will remove the waste of your time in visiting and your physical/ emotional health, the most valuable resource we have.
At the airport, as you travel back to Michigan with your younger brother and his girlfriend, maybe you can buy a book that will occupy you through the flight?
The symptoms of anxiety are distressing but not dangerous, this is nature’s idea behind making fear feel so distressing: let’s say an animal, a deer, is eating in the open, quite relaxed but partly alert, as deer are. Then a predator is approaching, a big mountain lion. Nature wants the deer to run away as fast as it can, all its power, all its might. How does nature accomplish it? By making the deer feel so bad, so distressed, like it is about to die, and so it is motivated to run with all it has.
But the feeling, the fear itself is not dangerous, it is the mountain lion that is dangerous.
In a similar way, your fear, feels dangerous but it is not. Remind this to yourself when you feel more of it: it feels dangerous, but it is not dangerous. I am okay. My life will get better and better.
anita
February 17, 2019 at 7:21 am #280519NicholeParticipantHi Anita, that’s a very hard decision to make but I do think I have to go that route. I an connected to his son he is 4. I love him dearly. I am extremely close to my niece in Chicago. It’s so sad this is reality. I feel so bad that my family communicates so poorly including me at times. I’ve been working at better communicating and boundaries but this trip branch the worst out of me. At the amusement park I feel my brother had tension from the last time we were here and basically passive aggressively antagonized me about it. It was cruel in mean. And I in return canceled Grand Canyon and went to hotel and haven’t spoke to him since. My communication was no better. So stressful and hurtful. Trying to calm this anxiety down. And trying to figure out how to end this trip well. I slept at my brothers house for the last night. Flight is at 5 30 pm. So here all day. My other brother should be coming and I basically have ignored his girlfriend and him so not sure how to deal with that toxic awkwardness. I just want to have the best possible ending to this trip. Was thinking of escaping to airport early but don’t want to run from the situation, rather confront it? Any suggestions?
February 17, 2019 at 7:32 am #280523AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
Better “run from the situation”, not confront it because sometimes running is the thing to do; it is not always better to confront. Confronting makes sense only if there is a likely possibility of a resolution to come out of the confrontation, and I don’t see it.
I think it is a good idea that you copy this thread into a Word document for yourself to read later at any time, to remind yourself of this visit so to not repeat and plan on yet another visit in the future. I wouldn’t like it if you forget in the future all the heartache of this visit and nostalgically remember only a good moment here or there.
So I suggest not confronting, not more than saying to your younger brother something like: looks to me that you are angry at me so I will be sitting right there, away from you.
That will explain to him why you will be sitting away from him at the airport. if and when it is possible for you.
anita
February 18, 2019 at 12:10 pm #280661NicholeParticipantHi Anita,
I am back home in Chicago. My last day went like this…
Spent the night at my brothers place while other brother and girlfriend & brother and wife from AZ went out to a bar as we planned but I cancelled. Stayed home with nephew. Woke in morning to drunk 35 year olds who could hardly stand. Heard all about the night and was glad I didn’t go. My brother and his girlfriend came the next morning and we talked as if nothing had happened the days prior. As always. We had lunch and went to airport together. Hardly spoke but were together. I observed my brothers actions and see him as his girlfriends puppet. He doesn’t leave her side and it as if he is afraid to make a move without her. She is highly insecure and I believe jealous of my brother and I relationship when I was introduced in the beginning. Let’s just say she has turned my brother against me and he is now a shell of himself. I have compassion because I too lost myself in my relationship but never did I disrespect my family. It is hurtful. By the end of the flight I was almost in tears by his treatment. To have to accept that my final true connection in this world is fading kills me. He is a good person and many many bad things have happened to him. And I feel like he thinks he found love and is holding on to it with dear life instead of working on himself and healing. When we arrived at my place where his car was parked I said good night and he looked at me and said I love you with this weak voice and I said walking away yea I’m sure you do. Not sure why but that is what came out. He texted me this morning and said Good morning Nichole I love you. I did not respond. He called me twice and I did not answer. He then texted me to let me know he was going to see my Aunt who is dying. I said let me know how she is. I am not sure how to confront this situation. I have to say something to him. But I am so hurt and angry today with his betrayal that I thought it was best I ignore him but I know that I should have better communication.
February 18, 2019 at 2:42 pm #280673AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
“I am not sure how to confront this situation”- I think it is more about accepting the situation, nothing to confront. Nothing to fix. I think what you need to confront is the rest of your life, it is about carving your own life in the world, away from the old.
I hope your brother gets better, but it is out of your hands, nothing you can do about his mind, his life and the relationship between you and him. I would leave it alone and behind and move forward.
As hard as it is, your hope is not in what is behind you but what is in front of you.
I will soon be away from the computer and be back in about fourteen hours. I hope to read more from you and I will reply when I am more awake, which I hope will be tomorrow morning.
Treat yourself well today no matter how you feel, just as if you had a young child in your care, you’d treat him or her well regardless of how sad you feel, correct?
anita
February 19, 2019 at 1:41 pm #280931NicholeParticipantHi Anita, you are right and the universe has been pushing me to think of my life. But where to start? In just 6 months I’ve lost so much and learned so much. About myself and everyone else in my life. Things so painful that I don’t know how I survived some nights. Today my brother texted me again and said I Love you and I could help but tell him he has treated me less than love. He responded that he doesn’t know why I feel that way and we can talk about it at dinner. Me furious said there was nothing to talk about that he knew how he had treated me during the weekend and that he is lost and in bad company! (I really did over step boundaries). His reply was that he had no idea what I was talking about and that he is here to talk or hang out and loves me. I’m so confused. I cannot just stop talking to my brother, he will continue to reach out. There are days where I feel so strong in my decisions and others where I question myself. I guess his reply was invalidating so I started to wonder if I’m over reacting with my boundaries. I have always been taught family is everything and although family has betrayed me I still believe family is important. I hope I can find myself and my life and reunite with family and have a support system. In this life you need support. I’m confused.
February 20, 2019 at 9:25 am #281019AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
For some fortunate people I suppose a family is a lovely thing, an association that provides comfort and support, validation, where all treat each other with empathy, assertiveness and respect, no aggression. It is a place of safety. A safety that you can trust and never doubt, oh, how lovely that must be. I wouldn’t know, I had no such Family growing up.
For so many of us, a Family is a wish and a dream, an image we long for. We keep gravitating toward that image, keep wishing and hoping, but it is never there, it is never an actualized image.
We hold on to any moment when it feels right, a feeling of safety, trying to fix all the aggression, the invalidation, trying to explain, to please… working very hard to make that idea of a family into a reality. We invest and at the end of the day, we get a zero return on our investment.
You wrote: “In just 6 months I’ve lost so much and learned so much”- I suggest you lost so much in your very first year or years of your life, long ago. You lost so much before you had it. You are just awakening in the last six months to the loss of long ago, you are learning now.
If I was you, I would tell your younger brother: I love you too. Because you do love him. Leave it at that. Stop trying to fix it, to enlighten him with your belief that his girlfriend is trouble. Stop investing. Say I-love-you-too and avoid any deep conversations. Keep it superficial or not at all, that is up to you.
Focus on your life moving forward. Nothing is going to feel as good as how Family feels like, the idea of it, that is. That good, good feeling when imagining that which you never had, nothing can compare to that good feeling.
And so, unfortunately (because who doesn’t want to feel that good!), we have to be satisfied with a much lesser good feeling, here and there, as you heal, as you invest in what brings a greater return than none. It feels better to live sensibly, to function better and better, to understand better, to no longer feel confused.
anita
February 24, 2019 at 5:23 pm #281607NicholeParticipantHello Anita,
I completely understand what you are saying and I agree with you. It has been on my mind for days as I have gone by. My brothers birthday was Friday so I definitely had to reach out and wish him well on his day. I am so hurt by him and his actions since this woman but I do have to stay I lost myself with my ex but I never stopped loving my family. So any way that I was acting I wasn’t intentionally doing so. So it is hard to cut ties or keep it superficial. He is not that great for emotional support but has ALWAYS been there as far as answer my call, pick me up, have me over, or anything I needed. I think our moms passing definitely has us breaking apart. I know I need to find new supportive loving people but I don’t think I want to lose my brother. I love him and my niece so much. I miss them. I do not wish to be around that woman though! Beside that I have been quite depressed these days! Struggling with living with my aunt still. Trying to find the best solution. I did pick up a second Job as to save and am hoping this helps distract me from living arrangements at the moment.
February 25, 2019 at 5:09 am #281633AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I hope you save your money and move out of your aunt’s soon enough, maybe in a few months, later this year.
I am sure you love your family. Lots of people suffer because they love their families. But if it is not necessary to suffer, if it is possible to eliminate some of the suffering in our lives, why not do it?
There is no merit in suffering. In love, yes, there is merit. But not in suffering.
anita
February 25, 2019 at 10:17 am #281687NicholeParticipantHi Anita, I agree with you and I have been eliminating a lot of people in suffering and I will say it feels good at times. But when I see my future I still can’t help but see me happier, more stable and good people in my life but still having my family and hopefully one day helping them become healthier but I do understand that in the mean time I have to worry about me for once and focus on myself. Yes I hope I am out soon enough as well. I still have 5000 saved which could potentially get me an apartment here furnished but then I become a renter and probably wont be able to save living alone. Where as if I save another 5 grand I can potentially own a 50000 condo in Florida and pay less mortgage there than a rent here in Illinois. I am afraid to live in a city all alone but am becoming increasingly confident about this. I really would like to invest in something. I know my future self would thank me. But toughing it out here with my Aunt is getting rough. We had a conversation last night where she insinuates that when she had to start over after divorce it took her 5 years and was stay beneath an aunt of ours that was evil! She basically said you have to put up with crap until you are able to set out on your own and I find that to be mean. When she offered me this place I thought she was supporting me and now it seems she did it for some type of control. She has helped me a lot but I will not do things I don’t want to do because some one helped me. Is that selfish?
February 25, 2019 at 11:12 am #281743AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
Place yourself as your highest priority, not your brother, not any of your family members. Your life will be better for it.
For a potential better relationship with your brother, move away from him, create a distance so that you can become more of who you are.
Remaining within the confines of family relationships that made you less of who you are so far, will continue to result in the same: less of you.
This is my advice. The beauty of free choice is that you are free to ignore it.
Regarding your aunt, you mean she is aware that she is giving you crap, intends to give you more crap and she told you basically that you have to take it because you have no choice; that she took crap and you should too?
anita
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