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June 2, 2019 at 5:57 pm #297111AnonymousGuest
Dear Nichole:
Yes, you will feel again. Why not fill in that Zoloft prescription, you will not get hooked on it if you try it for a few days, a week or two, and if I remember correctly it is only 25 mg that was prescribed (way less than the 400 mg I was on per day!), clearly you are not numb enough to stop longing for the same people who brought you misery.
The Zoloft may numb your longing! And then maybe you can sleep better, once you stop longing for them.
(You wrote that you want to reach out to your two brothers, remember the time you spent with the two of them in Arizona and how miserable that was? Why have more of that…)
anita
June 2, 2019 at 6:06 pm #297113NicholeParticipantI guess I’m not numb, you are right I am longing for them. I guess the feel I have is empty and longing for anything because I don’t know what I want anymore. I have no interest in the moment but to lie in bed, this could just be lack of sleep too. I am just having such a hard time adapting to this new change as well. I needed to leave my aunts house but didn’t realize the impact it would have on my mind with everything else going on another change is too much to handle. I miss my routine and my little apartment at my aunts place. I’m confined to a room, I do go throughout the house. Just hard to get used to. No place to call home. It’s saddening. I miss my mom. Broke down about her last night.
And yes when put it that way and I think of Arizona, yes it was bad. I guess I miss the individual relationships with my brothers. It’s when their women are involved that I have problems with them for the most part. For instance, when my brother said I was a bad godmother, his woman and daughter said that. Same with my other brother, his woman doesn’t want him to have a good relationship with me. I don’t know these may be excuses. I am just so lonely. Reaching out to my ex has crossed my mind. But I will not!
June 2, 2019 at 6:20 pm #297117AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
Well, the women are in your brothers’ lives so you can’t get them individually, and I don’t know if that would be a good idea either.
This too shall pass, what you are experiencing now, you will feel good again. Give up the longing, aim at it, to no longer long for those who have hurt you. Do you have a stuffed animal or the like, that you can hold as you lie in bed trying to sleep?
anita
June 2, 2019 at 6:36 pm #297123AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I am about to turn off the computer. It is 8:36 pm your time, I think. I do so hope you sleep well tonight, please aim at it, give up the longing just for tonight and find comfort in rest and sleep. Good night, Nichole.
anita
June 3, 2019 at 6:22 am #297143AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
This is what you wrote regarding your two brothers yesterday: “I miss the individual relationships with my brothers. It’s when their women are involved that I have problems with them for the most part”.
This is what you wrote Dec 7 last year about one of your two brothers, the older one: “I was sexually abused by my brother. I would say from what I remember ages 5-13. And I have kept it inside all these years. I’m just now learning to validate myself for what I went through… I am so angry I allowed it. I allow so much abuse in my life. I have often considered my brother and I to be close after the abuse and as an adult. He can be kind and we have both given each other great life advice. But at this point in my life I am very distant with him as I am feeling pain of what he did to me. I am angry with myself for keeping a good relationship with him and honestly trying to ‘please’ him and his fiancé for the last 9 years.. I am so fed up with abuse”.
Let’s go back to what you wrote yesterday: “I miss the individual relationships with my brothers. It’s when their women are involved that I have problems with them for the most part”.
Now, my point: when your older brother sexually abused you when you were a little girl of 5 years old, his current fiancé (or wife, I don’t know) was not at all in his life when you were 5 (“It’s when their women are involved that I have problems with them”).
When you wrote what you wrote yesterday, it is as if eight years of sexual abuse did not happen!
You missed your older brother yesterday, you tried to please him for the last nine years or more. See the problem here?
You wrote yesterday regarding all your family members, including your older brother: “I am longing for them. I guess the feel I have is empty and longing for anything because I don’t know what I want anymore”- longing for anything, anyone, longing for a man who sexually abused a child for 8 years, never acknowledged it. A child who happens to be … you!
Nichole, you have to stop this longing, you have to! I mean, invite reality into your brain and hold that reality in. The nostalgia regarding your older brother is extreme and regarding the rest of your family members, your nostalgia (make believe thoughts) are almost as extreme.
Regarding your older brother, he now has a daughter, a little girl, no? I know you are the God Mother of one of his child. What if he sexually abuses her too?
If you google “child protective services” you will get a website, in it there is this part (I am putting spaces in between letters,but don’t type those spaces): h t t p s: / / a m e r I c a n s p c c. o r g/ n e e d- h e l p, and there is a Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline dedicated, so it reads, to the prevention of child abuse, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with professional crisis counselors, 1 8 0 0 – 4 – A- CHILD.
Because your older brother sexually abused you for eight years, starting at the tender age of five, and because you did not mention that he ever acknowledged it, never went to therapy for it… he may not even think it is a problem, that he abused you. Therefore, he may be abusing his own little girl.
You wrote yesterday: “the feel I have is empty and longing for anything because I don’t know what I want anymore”- how about replacing nostalgia and make believe with reality, and then doing something to protect your god child and report a suspicion of child abuse of another little girl?
Take this time in your life, this in-between time and finally, at 30 or 31 (it is not too late!)- turn away from abuse.
anita
June 3, 2019 at 3:11 pm #297245NicholeParticipantWhy do I get so nostalgic? I did it with my ex as well! I almost did it today. I gathered the last of my belongings from my Aunts house and almost could not finish, almost wanted to stop and just ask her why she was hurting me so much. And just wanted things to go back to the way they were! And I still do. It taking everything I have not to reach out. I did reach out to my brother who lives here and asked if we could talk. He hasn’t got back to me. I almost regret it now. But he keeps calling me about things and acts as nothing happened. I need to tell him how hurt I am from what he accused me of and he never even acknowledged it!! The treatment I have got is unfair!!
And you are right, I forget this man abused me for so long. I have always had it on my head if he could hurt someone else.
Anita, the way I feel right now is so numb and empty. How can things ever be good again? I need support, I need someone by my side. Is it unhealthy to look for a man at this time? I need someone to hold me!!! I’m so dead inside, I don’t want to be like this forever. Please help!
June 3, 2019 at 4:13 pm #297253AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I am by your side. I am a real person here behind these typed words.
Listen, Nichole- it is time for a change of attitude on your end. You can’t stay in this weak, dependent child state of mind and you don’t have to!
You have to make a commitment today, to be the capable adult that you can be.
In reality, you can’t be a child because you are not. You cannot shrink and be a baby and then a fetus and implant yourself into some woman’s womb, but this time, a woman capable of being a good mother… and this time grow up in a good, stable, loving home-
– IT CAN NOT BE DONE.
Here you are, a woman, past 30 years old, let go of your family members, they were not and will not be who you want them to be. Give up on them, let them go. You- you be on your side, be the capable, strong adult you can be.
I had a terrible childhood myself and like you I remained a weak child wanting to redo my childhood, wanting to be rescued, insisted that someone will rescue me. No one did. I wasted lots of years in this impossible, degrading efforts. Don’t do any more of this.
Be who you can be, today!
anita
June 3, 2019 at 4:24 pm #297255NicholeParticipantI understand what you are saying but it’s not just my attitude, it’s my depression my anxiety my stress my sleep deprivation. My loss of an aunt and then loss of family support in one day! How much can one person take? Why do people want to hurt me like this? I just want love and support!
And i I do I miss my family. I miss having someone to go to. I do want to be hugged and loved in this moment. Is that so bad?
What can can I be? With no stability and no support? Whether it was good or bad I always had people in my life. I’ve recently learned to be on my own and am much better at it but still crave some kind of love.
Honestly do you think it is it is wise to reach out to some of my cousins that might listen? What do I have to lose?
Also you didn’t answer my question about a man?
June 3, 2019 at 5:01 pm #297257AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I’ve been away from the computer, what man, you mean your ex boyfriend, the man who is totally blind, you want him to save you?
anita
June 3, 2019 at 5:03 pm #297259NicholeParticipantAny man I guess. I’m lonely
June 3, 2019 at 5:22 pm #297261AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
Well, you wrote in the post before last: “I do miss my family. I miss having someone to go to. I do want to be hugged and loved in this moment. Is that so bad?”-
– no it is not bad at all, except that… well, where is that family that you miss, I mean, I am not stopping you from being hugged and loved by your family, am I..?
“Any man I guess. I’m lonely”- well, I did mention my “degrading efforts” in my last post to you, didn’t I? If you want to add to your anxiety, depression and sleep depravation more anxiety, more depression plus an STD to worry about during sleepless nights, I suppose you can.
anita
June 3, 2019 at 5:29 pm #297267NicholeParticipantOk you scared me with STD!
I don’t want just any man, I was on such a good path loving myself before all of this and wasn’t even thinking of a man. I know I have to be healed and healthy first. And I want to be but I am hurting. I think I just need a break from everything! I’m emotionally exhausted and sleep deprived. I never feel like doing anything. I am in bed as we speak. Counting down the hours to my medication so I can sleep and hopefully wake up renewed! I miss my motivation and self love. Afraid I won’t get it back after the trauma I’ve been through. Why is it that what I went through was so bad for me, I know it was. I was pure anxiety and my body jolting but yet I can’t seem to remember or remind myself that I don’t deserve it. Why is that I am recalling times I could have done things differently? I mean after all I could have right? I am not perfect either. I tell you a lot about what these people do what if I myself am doing something as well?
Just thoughts.
should I reach out to my cousins? Someone to maybe validate me?
June 3, 2019 at 5:50 pm #297269AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I will be away from the computer for a few hours. I didn’t read your recent post but I see the question at the end, if you should reach out to your cousins- I don’t think so, better you attend a coda support group, not online, but one that meets in person, see if there is one this evening, in your area.
I will be back in a few hours.
anita
June 4, 2019 at 5:29 am #297287AnonymousGuestDear Nichole:
I hope you slept enough, although having been sleep deprived for so long it will take a few nights of good sleep to refresh you. It is very difficult to not sleep well or long night after night.
“Counting down the hours to my medication so I can sleep”- you wrote before that over the counter doesn’t help you, which medication is it? The Xanax that you were prescribed?
“I am not perfect either. I tell you a lot about what these people do what if I myself am doing something as well?”- I suggested to you earlier that you are angry, have been angry for a long time. You need your family members, crave their attention, then you get it but soon enough you get angry with them. The anger doesn’t go away because they are nice to you at times, your anger will come up anyway and there will be arguments, fights and such.
Like I wrote to you, for you to have good relationship with any family member you and that person will have to attend family therapy and work hard and long in therapy for this purpose. Without therapy, I don’t see it possible for you to have good relationships with them because of their issues and yours.
Let’s take your older brother, that would take heavy duty therapy for the two of you where he will have to acknowledge sexually abusing you for eight years, and he will have to offer you some sort of restitution so to show his regret, just like a person will be instructed to do in a court of law, pay the victim a lot of money over a long time.
His wife will join the therapy at a later time, so it will be you, your older brother and his wife in therapy.
Let’s take your younger brother, therapy as well, with you, he now ignores everything, talks to you as if nothing happened, you wrote. In therapy he will have to address everything as you do, including his relationship with his girlfriend that bothers you so much. He will tell you what bothers him about you, you will do the same, solutions will be discussed and agreed on. And at some point his girlfriend will join therapy.
Your aunt, she would have to have therapy with you as well, you will voice your anger at her, she will voice her anger at you, identify the problems in the relationships and come up with solutions, and sometime in that therapy she will have to learn to not bad mouth you and gossip about you as she does regarding her son. Then all the family members she gossiped to about you will have to join the sessions, later.
In all these therapy sessions you will express your feelings, disappointments and there will be a communication established between you and each family member that the therapist will teach and facilitate.
And then, eventually all family members come together in therapy.
Do you think this is going to happen, all these therapy sessions with everyone showing up and working hard, being honest all through? And who is willing and able to pay for these sessions for many months, a few years all together?
This is why I say it is impossible to fix these relationships, or more accurately, extremely unlikely.
“Should I reach out to my cousins? Someone to maybe validate me?”- no, because if they are in contact with your aunt, she already gossiped and bad mouthed you to them about you, and after you talk to each cousin, that cousin is likely to call your aunt and gossip. If you had a good, close relationship already established with any one cousin, maybe, but doesn’t read like this is the case.
You keep thinking that because of genetic affiliation there is a promise of love there, for you. But this has already been proved false. You have way better chances for a good, loving relationship with a genetic-stranger, if that person is well and/ or works on his/her issues and so do you, in therapy.
anita
June 4, 2019 at 5:57 am #297293NicholeParticipantI didn’t sleep at all! That’s with taking Zoloft and Xanax. I feel so unhealthy. Body tremors and my head is vibrating in some places! Sorry if I couldn’t concentrate too much on all that you wrote. I am so stressed. I was doing so well for myself before all of this. Not well but best I ever had and now I am just a mess. No sleep, not even with Xanax? What can I do? My body feels shaky and I am so dazed.
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