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  • #278805
    grounded
    Participant

    Thanks Mark I am doing my best. Your advice is very wise.

     

    Anita,

    I’m not sure i’m following you anymore. I am not afraid of being alone, actually i am very good at it which is sometimes the scary part. I was definitely sad in the relationship at some points and at some points I was happy, same goes for him. It wasn’t a happily ever after, i know his flaws and I learn to love them or at least live with them and accept them about him, same as he knows mine. It was not perfect and was not a fairytale romance, it was real.

    #278807
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    Effective communication is a back and forth thing, it is  about asking questions, checking assumptions it takes time and patience. I am willing to continue and if you are, we will.

    You wrote that you are not afraid of being alone, and that you are “very good at it which is the scary part”- what do you mean by being very good at being alone, and what is scary about it?

    anita

    #278811
    grounded
    Participant

    It means that i’m good at being in my own company and doing things on my own. I have an easier time shutting people out than letting people in, and when i let people in i let them in 100% so it hurts a lot when they leave. I have always had a hard time with the sense of belonging and fitting in.

    #278815
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    It is probably better that you don’t “let them in 100%”- moderation is almost always wiser than extremes: 0% of letting people in or 100%. Better start gradual and increase the percentage over time according to circumstances.

    “always had a hard time with the sense of belonging and fitting in”- what do you do to belong and fit in with a man, as part of that 100%?

    anita

    #278917
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded/Anna:

    I figured I will look for the answers to my questions in your own words so I re-read your posts in the 2017 thread and the current one. My purpose is to attempt to be a bit helpful to you. You didn’t share anything about your childhood but I can tell some things about your childhood by reading about your experience in romantic relationships with men.

    This is my understanding: as a child you were very much alone a lot of the time, not connected to your parents. Sometimes they were there for you and you felt happy, safe, content. But most often they were not there for you and you were sad alone, scared alone, feeling strong emotions, alone. There were your parents perhaps feeding you, taking care of you physically, but they didn’t know how you felt, didn’t notice, didn’t ask you: Anna, you look so sad, ell me… Or Anna, it hurts when a friend doesn’t want to  play with you, doesn’t it. .Stuff like that, paying attention to how you feel. Without their attention and help you were scared by the intensity of your feelings, confused, not understanding why you feel the way you did, and you were so very sad to be so alone.

    As a child you adjusted best you can to this emotional/ social isolation at home, played on your own and did a good job at being on your own: “I can be happy on my own… I am not afraid of being alone, actually I am very good at it.. I’m good at being in my own company and doing things on my own”.

    As an adult, a woman, you are still okay being alone until you start dating a man you are interested in and who is interested in you. Then the old need to connect, to be together, to be seen and heard and understood, awakens with intensity: “when I let people in I let them in 100%”, a 100% because the unsatisfied need of childhood is so strong still.

    When you experience a breakup, the feelings of isolation as a child awaken: “I was in a really deep low for a very long time, all I could do was cry… I am still waiting for him to come back… I am waiting for the happiness that he made me feel… I feel afraid to leave him behind and I’m not sure where to conquer those fears… I’m afraid to be without him… I’m afraid to lose him… living with this hope that he might come back is hard.. I’m afraid… How do I give up and let go of the idea of being together with him?.. it’s me wanting to hear from him, seeing him.. tell me that he wants to be with me”.

    Taking out the sexual element of romantic relationships, your feelings within a relationship and following a breakup are the same as you had as a child. The intensity of your need for the man, the intensity of your fear of being separated from the man are the same intensity you felt then for your parent/s. Basically, like all of us, we keep re-living our childhood experiences in the context of our adult lives.

    For you to be less anxious in the context of relationships and otherwise, to be able to choose better, to develop a healthy, loving relationship with a man, you will need to examine and process some of your childhood experience, to understand it, to.. sort of take the hand of the child that you were and tell her that she is no longer alone. Take her hand and ask her questions, gently, explain feelings to her, so that feelings make sense to her, teach her. This will lessen the intensity of her need for another and the intensity of her fear and despair regarding this breakup.

    anita

    #278921
    grounded
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    As a child I was very social, I was always chatting with everyone even strangers and did not spend a lot of time alone. I have 3 siblings so I was always surrounded by people.  My parents were always there for me and are still there for me every single day. They are the ones I can call for whatever,  whenever.

    #278929
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded/Anna:

    I hope you feel better soon, and that you will soon enough be in the love relationship where you feel content.

    anita

    #280761
    grounded
    Participant

    I went on a trip, and took a week off work to spend some time away from my city with family and in a different environment. I felt so much better, stronger and like he had less power over me. Now i am back, back at work and back in the same city and same apartment and I feel like it is all coming back, my fear is coming back, my inability to move forward and be reminded of him and just having him so close by. I feel like i’ve moved 50 steps backwards.

    This week is his birthday. Last week, he invited me to his birthday party saying: ” I realize that the party invite came out of nowhere. I said I wouldn’t leave you out of things that so many friends are invited to. I would like you to come as a friend. If that’s weird, i understand. It felt like it may be weird to invite you and weird not to. So I Thought with an invite at least you can make your own choice.”

    I will be attending the party because i’m tired of being left out of the friend group. However his birthday is on thursday and I will wish him a Happy Birthday via text.

    I still have questions for him, like why did he text me that he went off dating sites and the never followed up?

    What do you think, do you think I could text him and ask him this when I text him to wish him a happy birthday?

    It feels like such a different world and life now, but still connected to him in some ways.

    #280845
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    Earlier in the month you wrote: “I don’t feel strong enough to see him and know that he doesn’t want me/ can’t be with me so I have not been attending  group events”.

    Last communication with him, if I remember correctly,  you expressed to him that you want an exclusive relationship with him. He was on dating sites at the time. Later he told you that he deleted the dating sites but didn’t explain further, didn’t tell you so far that he is no longer dating or that he is interested in resuming an exclusive relationship with you.

    I think it is reasonable to  assume that nothing has changed, he is still not interested in what you are interested. Because you already accepted his birthday party invitation, what I would do if I was you, is to not spend any alone time with him before or after the birthday party (last time this happened was around new year, I think).

    It will hurt you if you once again become physically intimate with him not in the context of an acknowledged and established exclusive relationship with him.

    So let’s say you attend the party and everyone gives him a hug or a kiss on the cheek (whatever the custom)- do the same in front of the group of friends, but no physical contact with him outside the group, no alone time, is my suggestion.

    Regarding  wishing him a happy birthday Thursday via text, I wouldn’t attach any question to the text, just wish him happy birthday, that is all.

    I hope to read from you again, any updates or if you need to express more of your thoughts and feelings.

    anita

     

    #280885
    grounded
    Participant

    Thanks Anita,

    I do not expect there to be any physical intimacy or anything at all since his message clearly implied “as a friend”. I also won’t make the same mistakes I made in the past. I do still want to be with him so i’m not sure, but I am feeling stronger and more in control, just weird to be back in the same city and living next door to him again.

    Healing is easier when there is a barrier.

     

    #280921
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    You are welcome.

    Geographic/physical distance is an advantage when it comes to creating an emotional distance from a person.

    “I also won’t make the same mistakes I made in the past. do still want to be with him so  I’m not sure”-

    not sure about what specifically?

    * I will be away from the computer for about 16 hours.

    anita

    #281895
    grounded
    Participant

    New update:

    So, My ex boyfriend recently told me he loves me and that he realized he loved me when i walked out the door but because he wasn’t doing well himself he wasn’t sure if he could trust it but now he knows (he never told me while we were dating, but through his actions i always knew he did). We broke up because we were both just unhappy, we couldn’t figure out how we became unhappy or what got us there, we still loved eachother, it just wasn’t working for who knows why. It’s been about 3 months.

    We talked about things, and we both have feelings, we both care and want to be in each other’s lives, but then he said: I can commit to just seeing you for now and be exclusive, get off dating sites and what not but I don’t want a relationship with anyone right now, not while things are on the right track for me.

    I don’t know what to say or do. I am so scared, hurt, not sure if I can trust him? How can you love someone and not want a relationship with them? Deep inside i know he’s not going anywhere and he probably knows i’m not going to find someone else either anytime soon. But I don’t know if I should accept that proposal and see where things go, or demand a relationship and walk away again. We haven’t been on any dates or anything (just for coffee to talk about what we wanted). We haven’t slept together or anything like that, and i told him i wouldn’t for a while, but i’m afraid of being played or just an option for him and that it won’t last and we’ll just get hurt and break up again. I pushed for a relationship / marriage and the whole thing before and i’m not sure why, maybe to know he’s not going anywhere and that he’s invested? but I panic hearing i don’t want a relationship right now. Help! How do we move forward?

    #281927
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    He said: “I can commit to just seeing you for now and be exclusive, get off dating sites and what not but I don’t want a relationship with anyone right now, not while things are on the right track for me”-

    So he wants an exclusive sexual arrangement with you, for now, no time length specification, correct?

    – and what did he mean by “things are on the right track for me”?

    anita

     

     

    #281929
    grounded
    Participant

    Correct, and i don’t know I didn’t reply yet.

    #281935
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear grounded:

    So he offered you an exclusive sexual arrangement until thing are no longer on the right track for him. He may then consider a relationship with you if things are on the wrong track for him…?

    – better ask him if this is so, and what he means by things being on the right track for him on one hand, and things being on the wrong track for him on the other hand.

    anita

     

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