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  • #52827
    cherrymom
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    I did something the other day that changed the course of a relationship that was growing back into something meaningful. I violated my boyfriend’s teen daughter’s privacy. She’s been sneaking out at night to see a boy. She is very young, and I know she’s been lying about it. Her grades are suffering terribly, her attitude has changed, and she is losing friends. It’s a downward spiral that I hate to see. When she spoke with her boyfriend on my phone the other day, I had forgotten I had a call recorder on my phone for dealings with my ex regarding custody issues. When I realized it was there, (I clean out the call recordings weekly), I listened to hers. It was worse than I thought. I brought this information to my boyfriend just 3 hrs after telling him about a conversation she and I had about her feeling like I was her mother, and that she wanted us all to live together (he and I are by no means ready for that, and I voiced it to him in a way that explained what was happening, that it was a lot of pressure, but I just wanted to be open with him, as she tends to go after the things that she wants with ferocity.) Ever since that day nothing has been the same. We went from a good place in our relationship to him feeling guarded & barely speaking to me.

    I’ve been dating a man off and on for a year and a half now. As of right now we are exclusive again, and most of the time he pursues me (I learned the hard way to back completely off and let him come to me). My biggest challenge with him is that he does not communicate well. Even when I pull away… Unless I’m absolutely walking away, the only way I can usually get him to open up and talk is through text. But if I have a problem, no matter how ridiculous the question may seem, he is wonderful about calmly and thoroughly explaining the situation in a way that I can understand. Just not in person. Wow. We are both single parents, so our time together is already very limited. He’s very inconsistent in his interactions with me… And I am not the only one. Apparently he has been like this with his teen daughter as well over the past couple of years. Much has changed in his life in the past 2 years, and he’s become more of a homebody, does not spend much time doing the things he loves, and though he states that he wants the kind of love they write songs about, he does not appear to want to have to actually work for that kind of love. I’m not sure at this point whether I should stay or go. This man has paid me the greatest compliments of my life, but skips the simple ones. He is caring and attentive, but guarded. And he has told me in the past that though he feels that a woman like me is a gift and he knows my value, that he never fell in love with me. I want to be in a relationship with more communication and closeness. I want to feel that the man I am with has a genuine love for me. Since our last breakup, I was very calm and honest in stating the things that I want in a relationship. As a result, he has been much more attentive and sensitive to my feelings, much more honest and open… But it’s just still not there. I’m starting to lose my feeling of attraction to this man. I’ve backed away so much already. While opening up to my own feelings and working on myself. I just don’t know how much farther I can go. If a man has already decided that he cares about a woman but is not in love with her… If he has decided for himself that we have no future together (though he still enjoys time with me and pursues me), is there a way this might turn around in the future? The times that he does open up and let his guard down, our relationship and temperaments are such a close fit to the relationship I want. The inconsistency more than anything is what makes me question moving forward. It is difficult and frustrating for me. I know this is very little information, but is continuing to see a man that cannot consistently deliver really worth it??
    I should also note… He has recently progressed our relationship forward again. He started referring to me as his girlfriend, is exclusive with me, and talks about me everywhere he goes. If he sees something I would like in a shop, he brings me back, to the immediate greeting of a sales clerk shaking my hand, so glad to meet the girlfriend he has said such nice things about. All I can do is shake my head, laugh, appreciate it, and wonder why it is that I have so many greatly mixed signals from this man.

    #52828
    Archie
    Participant

    Hello.. You know, I am quite young to know what a stable relationship is like. I have never had one. But there is one thing that I have come to realize. I believe that we should stick to those people who can accept us with all our imperfections. Even if they can’t offer us the love that we might be expecting, they can surely give us the respect and care that we deserve.

    #52829
    cherrymom
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    Thank you Archie. I’m not quite young anymore… Though I still look and feel very young. A stable relationship is exactly what I want. Stable, open, fluid. But for some reason no man ever tells me he loves me and has loved me all along until I’m done and walking away. I think I still have a great deal of inner reflection & work to do to get myself completely on track. It’s frustrating that I keep going back knowing something is there… but it only shows itself part of the time.

    #52879
    cherrymom
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    As I’ve been meditating and spending time to myself for reflection, I’ve come to a rather interesting discovery. Often we see in others that which we see in ourselves. This man once told me that I didn’t have enough sense of myself, that I was not being myself. Yet here I am being open and honest, establishing clear boundaries and expressing the things that I want quite effectively. Perhaps not always as timely as I should. But I am being myself. I am doing these things. He is not. Is it possible that he found this to be an issue in the past because he is finding that he is unable to be himself, at the very least, around me? Is it that he has seen in me the things that he may not like in himself, and that perhaps he has not found a “safe place” in our relationship in which to communicate? I have changed greatly in 1.5 years. He really has not. The cycle waxes and wanes from him being warm and open at times and progressing our relationship forward… to completely shutting down and withdrawing. It’s a difficult cycle to keep watching. I don’t know what I could possibly do to make him feel more emotionally safe with me. I improve myself every day. I’m focused on being myself, and being happy , and on continuing to improve myself… As it is greatly improving my quality of life to do so.

    Since I’ve started focusing internally and taking time for myself… My relationship with my children and their attitudes have improved. I have found myself in a better job. I’m happier. I’m starting to rebuild my life in positive ways. Everything is slowly falling into place. Except this one thing. The relationship that I still hold on to that holds so much doubt for me. Relationships take work, it cannot be just one person doing the work, and as the feminine presence, I need to give him the space and time to come to me. If he wants to make things work, he needs to be the catalyst for that change. I can only be myself, be warm and caring, and accept or deny what he offers me.

    #52887
    Archie
    Participant

    It’s really great of you to be the dynamic half of this relationship. Can it be possible that he is afraid to loose you? Perhaps this aspect of you makes him insecure that you are comfortable with your own self. If that’s the case, he really needs to accept you the way you are in order to be free of any knots in the relationship. Perhaps you could talk with him about your doubts.

    #52895
    cherrymom
    Participant

    Thank you Archie. I think you are right, and I have long since given up the fear of driving him away by sharing my thoughts and feelings. He will stay or go regardless of what I do, so I choose to be myself. I know that he is going through a lot right now, so I am not pushing hard at all. Actually I haven’t initiated contact with him outside of work for more than 24 hours now… Just giving him space to catch his breath and catch up. I do need to sit down and talk to him in a calm and honest way. It is not a relationship without communication or honesty. The fact that he has come back to pursue me twice, and that every time we have been apart he has made sure to keep in contact with me constantly, as well as the way he shows me he cares for me (even if not in words) does show me that he is afraid to lose me. He was finally doing more than the bare minimum to keep me. Finally progressing the relationship along by his own idea and means. I just feel so conflicted with all of this. It has me wondering what internal focus I can shift to ensure that I do not have this recurring pattern with men.
    It is also difficult because I am in a different place than he is. I’ve been on my own for 5 years now. I’m ready for something more meaningful, and I can plainly see that even though he voices that he wants love and a relationship, he is not ready for anything more at this time. Or perhaps he is not ready for more just with me. In either case, I can only accept that and decide what I am wanting to do from here.

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