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January 14, 2023 at 1:12 am #413727TeeParticipant
Dear SereneWolf,
yes I’ve been to the doctor. I’ll have to go to physical therapy and hopefully that should help… it’s not that simple, but I am hoping that physical therapy will relieve the symptoms.
Yes I strongly believing in creating in my own path instead of walking on others path that theyāve created. doesnāt matter how great they were
Good! Excellent approach!
But Iām telling you, you can try with very small things first. Maybe it would be helpful for your anxiety.
In fact, I am trying do something that makes me very anxious with respect to my career. But still, I want to try…
Yes but it doesnāt mean like It was only pretending and nothing else. Thing is that she had some expectations from me, Which indeed wasnāt wrong. She was insecure soā¦
And in my previous relationship I didnāt pretend anything and mostly said how it is and maybe sometimes brutally honest which I guess may have hurt her in some way as well but yeah.Good that you haven’t pretended that much in your 2nd relationship. But you’ve mentioned that she saw you as quite critical, pushing her to do things quicker and faster (perhaps similar to how you’ve been pushing yourself?). And you were impatient because she wasn’t following your suggestions? Perhaps in your “brutal honesty”, you were lacking compassion? Again, lack of compassion for both yourself and for her as well?
Hmm I think thatās super helpful. Thanks! This would be really helpful for me on how much should I open up in relationships
You’re welcome! Yes, take is slowly, step by step, and see what response you’re getting…
Yes I got your point. I have to work on this first. And I believe for my pattern there was mainly fear of commitment involved as well. But what Iām saying is that if itās my fear of commitment then Iām not even looking for a commitment. Iām not that much old to look for a commitment either.
I got you. You fear commitment… do you think it’s because you never want to getĀ married (because it seems like a burden, loss of freedom, or something similar), or you don’t want to get stuck with someone who’s not right for you?
Another thing is that there are probably woman like me whoās also have fear of commitment as well.. Then instead of just focusing on fear (Which I have to I know, and it does take time) why not just go with the flow and learn that way?
So you want to be in a non-committed, casual relationship with someone who is afraid of commitment like you are? Someone who won’t force you to commit, but will just enjoy the time spent together but not want deeper (emotional) intimacy?
I mean, you can do that, I am sure, but how fulfilling will it be? And what will you learn that way? In my opinion, getting into casual relationships can cause more trouble than good, so I wouldn’t use it for learning. Because it may come with a price, of being heart-broken, or even getting an STD (sorry for being “brutally honest”).
So I wouldn’t take that route, but would rather take the lessons you’ve learned so far, and try to do it differently next time: take things slow, step by step. Open up with one vulnerable thing, and see how she reacts. Be more compassionate both toward yourself and towards her… So, apply the things that we’ve talked about already.
January 14, 2023 at 6:36 am #413732SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
yes Iāve been to the doctor. Iāll have to go to physical therapy and hopefully that should helpā¦ itās not that simple, but I am hoping that physical therapy will relieve the symptoms.
I see, I hope youāll be alright and may you able to create the healing energy for your own self.
In fact, I am trying do something that makes me very anxious with respect to my career. But still, I want to tryā¦
In a way thatās really a good step as well. So you should be proud of that. How is your freelancing journey going on?
Good that you havenāt pretended that much in your 2nd relationship. But youāve mentioned that she saw you as quite critical, pushing her to do things quicker and faster (perhaps similar to how youāve been pushing yourself?). And you were impatient because she wasnāt following your suggestions? Perhaps in your ābrutal honestyā, you were lacking compassion? Again, lack of compassion for both yourself and for her as well?
Yes you analysed it right. I was projecting my things on her. Which wasnāt healthy. But I believe I did learn some compassion from her. She was trying for that but I wasnāt listening and just blindly driven
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Youāre welcome! Yes, take is slowly, step by step, and see what response youāre gettingā¦
Yes for sure!
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I got you. You fear commitmentā¦ do you think itās because you never want to getĀ married (because it seems like a burden, loss of freedom, or something similar), or you donāt want to get stuck with someone whoās not right for you?
I want to get married. I know that because I love kids. But if I get married now I do fear loss of freedom and itās just that I just have lot to do, still lot to see in this world, lot to accomplish. And another thing is that deep down I think itās really hard to find the right person (Considering the current dating & relationship scenario). So better to waitā¦ No need be in hurry for that.
So you want to be in a non-committed, casual relationship with someone who is afraid of commitment like you are? Someone who wonāt force you to commit, but will just enjoy the time spent together but not want deeper (emotional) intimacy?
As per my situation 2 of my friends suggested me that. And itās definitely new for me because I havenāt tried that before I know itās really complex thing to do. Is there something in between relationship middle of casual and committed? š
I mean, you can do that, I am sure, but how fulfilling will it be? And what will you learn that way? In my opinion, getting into casual relationships can cause more trouble than good, so I wouldnāt use it for learning. Because it may come with a price, of being heart-broken, or even getting an STD (sorry for being ābrutally honestā).
Well youāre right it would just make the heart feels empty one way or another. I believe in safe sex or even being tasted first, so rare to none chance for STD
So I wouldnāt take that route, but would rather take the lessons youāve learned so far, and try to do it differently next time: take things slow, step by step. Open up with one vulnerable thing, and see how she reacts. Be more compassionate both toward yourself and towards herā¦ So, apply the things that weāve talked about already.
Iām still thinking about it too. Because one of the girl texted me to spend this weekend with her. To be honest at first, I was really tempted. But I do want to taking things slow and step by step as you saidā¦ So I told her for next week and maybe Iāll meet and see how things goes from there
And yeah, Iām working on my compassion and empathy as well š
January 16, 2023 at 12:29 am #413894TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
I hope youāll be alright and may you able to create the healing energy for your own self.
thank you for your good wishes. I hope that healing energies will come both from within and without, as I start physical therapy š
Yes you analysed it right. I was projecting my things on her. Which wasnāt healthy. But I believe I did learn some compassion from her. She was trying for that but I wasnāt listening and just blindly driven
Good that you’re aware of it now – that you were pushing her the same way you were pushing yourself to do more and better. So that’s one big lesson for your next relationship.
I also remember that you said you didn’t like her complaining, and so you offered various solutions to fix the problem. But probably you lacked one key step: showing empathy for her problems. Instead, you rushed to solutions immediately. There is a funny video about that, where this is taken to the extreme. It’s on youtube, titled “It’s not about the nail”, by Jason Headley”. Talks exactly about fixing vs just listening/empathizing…
I want to get married. I know that because I love kids. But if I get married now I do fear loss of freedom and itās just that I just have lot to do, still lot to see in this world, lot to accomplish.
That’s fine, you don’t need to get married right away. You can find someone who, like you, isn’t rushing to get married, but wants to enjoy life, travel, perhaps accomplish some professional/career goals first… There are girls like that out there, not everyone wants to get married and have children right away.
You’d need to look for a compatible person, with similar goals and values, and also similar interests. She doesn’t have to like everything that you do, but there should be at least some compatibility, e.g. being an outdoors person, or loving adventure, or whatever is important to you. You can have a committed relationship with such a person, and yet, it wouldn’t require you to give up on some of your career or other life goals.
As per my situation 2 of my friends suggested me that. And itās definitely new for me because I havenāt tried that before I know itās really complex thing to do.
Well, guys like to suggest such things, but you said it yourself that it wouldn’t be fulfilling and it could indeed hurt you. It’s not even your style, and I know that if we force ourselves to do something that go against our principles, it’s never a good thing and we always get burned.
Is there something in between relationship middle of casual and committed?
AsĀ I said, you can have a committed relationship with a compatible person, in which you feel free to be yourself and aren’t afraid of losing your freedom or giving up on some really important goals. I am not saying it’s easy to find such a person, butĀ it’s possible. What I am sure is that settling for casual relationships won’t help you find such a person…
I believe in safe sex or even being tasted first, so rare to none chance for STD
Good that you’re cautious!
Because one of the girl texted me to spend this weekend with her. To be honest at first, I was really tempted. But I do want to taking things slow and step by step as you saidā¦ So I told her for next week and maybe Iāll meet and see how things goes from there
Yes, you can try it and see if she is compatible to you, e.g. if she isn’t rushing to settle down but is more relaxed about it. Or if there are common interests that you can both enjoy in your free time. Or if she seems genuine, not pretending…
And yeah, Iām working on my compassion and empathy as well
Good to hear! Keep up the good work! š
January 16, 2023 at 8:20 pm #413933SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
thank you for your good wishes. I hope that healing energies will come both from within and without, as I start physical therapy.
For Sure. When you want to start physical therapy?
that you were pushing her the same way you were pushing yourself to do more and better. So thatās one big lesson for your next relationship.
Yes I agree and I think I realize now that the way I require freedom my partner will require freedom too and by pushing and kind of controlling is not the way. It wouldnāt make her feel safe and thus sheād try to pretend somethingā¦ Am I right?
I also remember that you said you didnāt like her complaining, and so you offered various solutions to fix the problem. But probably you lacked one key step: showing empathy for her problems. Instead, you rushed to solutions immediately. There is a funny video about that, where this is taken to the extreme. Itās on youtube, titledĀ āItās not about the nailā,Ā by Jason Headleyā. Talks exactly about fixing vs just listening/empathizingā¦
Haha short but on point video. Iām definitely appreciating listening/empathizing.
Thatās fine, you donāt need to get married right away.
Okay so this might be the also reason that I feel behind sometimes. My family and friends do expect me get married and be settled ASAP. (Not forcing but still)
Lot of my friends who are even younger than already got married and some have kids as well. Because here getting married in your late 20s considered lot more normal and safer.But I know well that Iām not ready for marriage. I still have my goals to accomplish. And I started to believe in slow love as well. Guess Iām still hopeless romantic!
You can find someone who, like you, isnāt rushing to get married, but wants to enjoy life, travel, perhaps accomplish some professional/career goals firstā¦ There are girls like that out there, not everyone wants to get married and have children right away.
Hmm Right as you said not easy to find but possible. And I think right one will come. No need to rush š
Youād need to look for a compatible person, with similar goals and values, and also similar interests. She doesnāt have to like everything that you do, but there should be at least some compatibility, e.g. being an outdoors person, or loving adventure, or whatever is important to you. You can have a committed relationship with such a person, and yet, it wouldnāt require you to give up on some of your career or other life goals.
Yes thatās exactly what Iāve decided!
Well, guys like to suggest such things, but you said it yourself that it wouldnāt be fulfilling, and it could indeed hurt you. Itās not even your style, and I know that if we force ourselves to do something that go against our principles, itās never a good thing and we always get burned.
Obviously and the thing is if I do something thatās against my principles and values itād be even hard to sleep for me.
Yes, you can try it and see if she is compatible to you, e.g. if she isnāt rushing to settle down but is more relaxed about it. Or if there are common interests that you can both enjoy in your free time. Or if she seems genuine, not pretendingā¦
Well as of now I think sheās not rushing to settle down but I guess there might be fewer common interests. Iām guessing because sheās not minimalistic like me, likes noisy places, Extrovert. But sheās outgoing and upright honest about things which I liked about her. Also sheās not that much tall but Iāll manage. Okay I’m hard to please I know but maybe I’ll find other good qualities? š
January 17, 2023 at 6:34 am #413954TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
For Sure. When you want to start physical therapy?
Tomorrow is my first appointment…
I think I realize now that the way I require freedom my partner will require freedom too and by pushing and kind of controlling is not the way. It wouldnāt make her feel safe and thus sheād try to pretend somethingā¦ Am I right?
Sure, and also, if you constantly feel the need to “improve” the person, pushing her to do this or that, she might feel she’s not good enough for you. She might feel criticized and judged, like she’s is with a strict parent, not an equal partner. So yes, more empathy and less control is key…
Haha short but on point video. Iām definitely appreciating listening/empathizing.
Good! So if she complains about something, first listen and empathize. Only then offer advice š
Okay so this might be the also reason that I feel behind sometimes. My family and friends do expect me get married and be settled ASAP. (Not forcing but still)
Lot of my friends who are even younger than already got married and some have kids as well. Because here getting married in your late 20s considered lot more normal and safer.I see, that’s societal/cultural pressure. But keep in mind that you like to walk your own path, so don’t be swayed by those external pressures. Do what feels right to you.
But I know well that Iām not ready for marriage. I still have my goals to accomplish. And I started to believe in slow love as well. Guess Iām still hopeless romantic!
Absolutely – if you feel you’re not ready for marriage, don’t do it. And yes, don’t settle for someone just because others are telling you it’s time to settle.
Yes thatās exactly what Iāve decided!
Great! I am rooting for you!
Well as of now I think sheās not rushing to settle down but I guess there might be fewer common interests. Iām guessing because sheās not minimalistic like me, likes noisy places, Extrovert. But sheās outgoing and upright honest about things which I liked about her. Also sheās not that much tall but Iāll manage. Okay Iām hard to please I know but maybe Iāll find other good qualities?
Well, you’ll see. You’ll need to spend some time together to see how she is in person. But don’t judge her by how tall she is or other physical features – her character and personality are much more important!
January 18, 2023 at 1:15 am #414029SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Tomorrow is my first appointmentā¦
Okay good, Be sure to update me.
Sure, and also, if you constantly feel the need to āimproveā the person, pushing her to do this or that, she might feel sheās not good enough for you. She might feel criticized and judged, like sheās is with a strict parent, not an equal partner. So yes, more empathy and less control is keyā¦
Yes you said so well
Good! So if she complains about something, first listen and empathize. Only then offer advice
Yes, thatās what Iām doing. With lot of communication even with my friends and teammates
Do what feels right to you.
Thatās what I believe in Yes
Absolutely ā if you feel youāre not ready for marriage, donāt do it. And yes, donāt settle for someone just because others are telling you itās time to settle.
Yes I know when itās time to settle.
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Great! I am rooting for you!
Oh Thanks!
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Well, youāll see. Youāll need to spend some time together to see how she is in person. But donāt judge her by how tall she is or other physical features ā her character and personality are much more important!
Youāre right lowering/mute the critic inside me would be lot better.
And Today I had another therapy season.
She said Iām doing lot better than she expected š
Also I told her the things that Iām working on Empathy, compassion, Being Good enough for inner voice as well as treating child version of me with more love.etc
Yet she told me she feels like I still have rigid layer around my heart. Iām more sensitive but changing my root beliefs and believe and love myself in healthier will take some more time
And she gave me good example of window glass. What happens when you throw rock at the window glass? Not just that injure the people inside. Rigid things break easily. So let it at ease. Let it feel things let it be softer
She told me if youāre able to being kind with others itās time to be kind with yourself too.
For that she suggested some Yoga and journaling but like in a way that Iām my own good friend she said it would also help for my compassion part as well
Also she said I still have to work on my root chakra little bit more. My sacral chakra looks already good. But still weāll work on that and after that Solar plexus chakra which she said I will have put more focus on.
January 19, 2023 at 1:27 am #414106TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
Okay good, Be sure to update me.
Well, that was the initial check-up and I got some exercises to practice at home…Ā and then come back next week. So I’ve started doing those, and am hoping they’ll work…
Yes, thatās what Iām doing. With lot of communication even with my friends and teammates
Glad to hear you’re listening more and showing more empathy, before offering advice. And you’re right to apply it with your colleagues and friends too, not just your romantic interest…
And Today I had another therapy season. She said Iām doing lot better than she expected
Well, you’re working very diligently on your self, you’re very motivated, and that’s a positive side of being driven. What’s not so great is when you’re pushing yourself too hard, never being happy with yourself, judging yourself for not being good enough or fast enough. So, being motivated and driven: YES. But being like a drill sergeant to yourself: a big NO š
Yet she told me she feels like I still have rigid layer around my heart. Iām more sensitive but changing my root beliefs and believe and love myself in healthier will take some more time
Can she intuitively feel the energies? A rigid layer around your heart could be the defense mechanism we’ve talked about: your fear of being emotionally hurt, and that’s why closing your heart and fearing intimacy. Because intimacy requires that we be vulnerable with the other person, that we show our weaknesses, but also that we admit how much we care about and depend on the other. That we admit that they can hurt us. That’s vulnerability.
If we fear being hurt, we’ll close our heart, and we won’t allow anyone to get near. But we’ll also stay alone… So vulnerability is not a weakness, it’s actually a precondition for intimacy and happiness.
And she gave me good example of window glass. What happens when you throw rock at the window glass? Not just that injure the people inside. Rigid things break easily. So let it at ease. Let it feel things let it be softer
Yes, that’s also a good analogy. In my mind, this rigid layer around the heart is more like a metal shield – protects the heart from being hurt, but doesn’t let anything/anyone inside. In order to soften things up, you’d need to remove the shield at least partially…
Now thinking about your dynamic with girls, it could be that after the initial exuberance and vulnerability that you feel towards the girl (feeling very much in love, writing poems…), the fear comes up – the fear that you’ll be hurt. And so the shield goes up and you perhaps enter the drill sergeant mode, putting yourself in a superior position, trying to “improve” her… which helps you to feel less vulnerable. Because if you feel in charge and have the upper hand in the relationship, you feel she can’t hurt you as much?
I am just musing here…. let me know if any of this rings true?
January 22, 2023 at 7:40 am #414206SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
How are you doing?
How are your exercises coming along?I was little busy. Finally, I got a really good opportunity for a Management Position and Iām on interview stage so Iām hoping to get this position. Because It seems really impactful and I read content of VP, Seems like I can learn lot from her.
So, being motivated and driven: YES. But being like a drill sergeant to yourself: a big NO
Yes, youāre right and Iām working towards putting good silence on that drill sergeant.
Eg. Just few days ago I missed a meeting because I took a nap and I didnāt woke up on time. And was 5 minutes late. I guess he just logged off after 2-3 minutes. Client was furious and he said I donāt want to reschedule meeting because I didnāt attended meeting on time.
So for a minute that sergeant woke up and just started saying things… Look what you did? Youāre lazy and blah blahā¦ But I was mindful about it and I listened and took it like itās good that I didnāt work with impatient client like this. Yes, there was my fault but sometimes itās good in disguise. I did felt down for a bit that day but I think I took care of it wellCan she intuitively feel the energies?
No I mean she asked me lot of questions beforehand so..
A rigid layer around your heart could be the defense mechanism weāve talked about: your fear of being emotionally hurt, and thatās why closing your heart and fearing intimacy. Because intimacy requires that we be vulnerable with the other person, that we show our weaknesses, but also that we admit how much we care about and depend on the other. That we admit that they can hurt us. Thatās vulnerability.
If we fear being hurt, weāll close our heart, and we wonāt allow anyone to get near. But weāll also stay aloneā¦ So vulnerability is not a weakness, itās actually a precondition for intimacy and happiness.
Yes Exactly! And thanks for this great reminder! I think I will have to make some notes like this to remember every day that can help in changing my beliefs.
Yes, thatās also a good analogy. In my mind, this rigid layer around the heart is more like a metal shield ā protects the heart from being hurt, but doesnāt let anything/anyone inside. In order to soften things up, youād need to remove the shield at least partiallyā¦
Yes youāre right and I thought about it and I think the thing is that I know Iām sensitive. This could be my strength and my weakness. Both. But unconsciously I maybe still thinking more as a weakness and less as a strength. Means still there is some kind of fear.
So now the question is that in your opinion how do you know what are your fears or limiting beliefs? How do you address them?
Now thinking about your dynamic with girls, it could be that after the initial exuberance and vulnerability that you feel towards the girl (feeling very much in love, writing poemsā¦), the fear comes up ā the fear that youāll be hurt. And so the shield goes up and you perhaps enter the drill sergeant mode, putting yourself in a superior position, trying to āimproveā herā¦ which helps you to feel less vulnerable. Because if you feel in charge and have the upper hand in the relationship, you feel she canāt hurt you as much?
I am just musing hereā¦. let me know if any of this rings true?
Hmm I think I canāt disagree with this, but I canāt relate with this 100% either (In the present moment). Because as Iāve told you before I had kind of controlling behavior, so I did like having an upper hand most of the time. I always have to be the one whoās making āRight choicesā even though sometimes itās good only from my point of view. And maybe selfish as well?
And as in vulnerable I think yes because I guess I was running from the things I didnāt liked to talk about even though it was important but after my first relationship Iāve decided to clarify things honestly ASAP whatever that is..Yet still there was times I wasnāt able to say things on their face like youāre doing this and itās hurting me. I was just making sarcastic comment or neglecting on that and be like they should understand these āsignalsā and they will work on it. And when they havenāt changed their behavior patterns and did the same things over and over. I took it like theyāre the ones not putting efforts (even though that they were somewhat aware of this) in this relationship only me whoās working for making it better. So I donāt want it and Iād just breakup.
January 25, 2023 at 9:27 am #414429TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
sorry for a later reply, I am not doing that great health-wise, which bogs me down quite a bit.
Yes, youāre right and Iām working towards putting good silence on that drill sergeant.
Good to hear that! I like how you approached the mishap with the missed online meeting. Although it was your fault, this person’s reaction was quite unforgiving. First, they logged out within less than 5 minutes of the agreed time. And then they refused to reschedule – showing no understanding and a strong judgmental attitude. So you’re right, it’s probably for the best that you don’t have them as your client.
I think the thing is that I know Iām sensitive. This could be my strength and my weakness. Both. But unconsciously I maybe still thinking more as a weakness and less as a strength. Means still there is some kind of fear.
Yes, sensitivity is the same as vulnerability. You may think it’s your weakness, but at the end of the day, it’s your strength, specially in a romantic relationship. (Just as a side note, we’re not meant to be vulnerable in every relationship, of course, e.g. we don’t want to be sensitive/vulnerable with ill-meaning, toxic people!). However, in a romantic relationship, the goal is to be open and honest with each other, to be able to talk about our fears and weaknesses, and yet be understood and supported by the other – rather than blamed and judged.
You did say a while ago that you feared sharing too much of your “imperfections” or problems, even if your girlfriend showed compassion, because you thought it would make you “weaker” than her. As if she would use the knowledge of your weaknesses to hurt you, rather than to help you and encourage you…
So you might have a false belief, saying something like “if I show my weakness, I will be attacked”. Perhaps you’ve picked it up in your family of origin – because your father did indeed attack you and chastise you for showing even the slightest weakness? So you’ve learned to hide your weaknesses – not to be attacked?
Yet still there was times I wasnāt able to say things on their face like youāre doing this and itās hurting me. I was just making sarcastic comment or neglecting on that and be like they should understand these āsignalsā and they will work on it.
Alright, so you didn’t dare to say that something was bothering you openly, but you used passive aggressive means, such as sarcasm. You were afraid to openly admit that something is hurting you. In other words, you were afraid to openly admit that you are vulnerable and that the person has the power to hurt you. And so instead, you put a shield around your heart… and the language of a shielded heart is sarcasm.
For example, instead of saying “it hurts me when you don’t reply to my texts for an entire day”, you say “I guess you’re so extremely busy that you don’t have time to reply to my texts”. It’s like sending a little poisonous arrow instead of being honest (and vulnerable) and saying “this hurts me”…
And when they havenāt changed their behavior patterns and did the same things over and over. I took it like theyāre the ones not putting efforts (even though that they were somewhat aware of this) in this relationship only me whoās working for making it better. So I donāt want it and Iād just breakup.
Right… you felt that they didn’t care, even though you’ve never openly expressed what was bothering you. Instead of being honest and vulnerable, you rather blamed it on them and called it quits…. So perhaps your shield started to go up as soon as the person was doing something that was hurting you, but you didn’t have the courage to admit it, and so you switched to sarcasm and started feeling resentment?
January 26, 2023 at 8:19 am #414461SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Oh :(( Please take extra care of yourself. I hope each day brings more comfort and strength. Praying for a good recovery.
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showing no understanding and a strong judgmental attitude. So youāre right, itās probably for the best that you donāt have them as your client.
Yes I think in Management and leadership this kind of things are important too. For professional relationships to grow, There should be good amount of mutual understanding, Not just a business POV.
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Yes, sensitivity is the same as vulnerability. You may think itās your weakness, but at the end of the day, itās your strength, specially in a romantic relationship. (Just as a side note, weāre not meant to be vulnerable in every relationship, of course, e.g. we donāt want to be sensitive/vulnerable with ill-meaning, toxic people!). However, in a romantic relationship, the goal is to be open and honest with each other, to be able to talk about our fears and weaknesses, and yet be understood and supported by the other ā rather than blamed and judged.
Yes youāre right and Iām understanding that now that how much energy and guts needs be sensitive and vulnerable. Yet itās really important. The person we share sad times we bond with them are much stronger than when weāre just smiling around people even though spending more time with them.
You did say a while ago that you feared sharing too much of your āimperfectionsā or problems, even if your girlfriend showed compassion, because you thought it would make you āweakerā than her. As if she would use the knowledge of your weaknesses to hurt you, rather than to help you and encourage youā¦
So you might have a false belief, saying something like āif I show my weakness, I will be attackedā. Perhaps youāve picked it up in your family of origin ā because your father did indeed attack you and chastise you for showing even the slightest weakness? So youāve learned to hide your weaknesses ā not to be attacked?
Yes you guessed it right. I do think itās maybe because of that
Alright, so you didnāt dare to say that something was bothering you openly, but you used passive aggressive means, such as sarcasm. You were afraid to openly admit that something is hurting you. In other words, you were afraid to openly admit that you are vulnerable and that the person has the power to hurt you. And so instead, you put a shield around your heartā¦ and the language of a shielded heart is sarcasm.
For example, instead of saying āit hurts me when you donāt reply to my texts for an entire dayā, you say āI guess youāre so extremely busy that you donāt have time to reply to my textsā. Itās like sending a little poisonous arrow instead of being honest (and vulnerable) and saying āthis hurts meāā¦
Haha again Iām surprised how accurate you areā¦ but yeah youāre on point!
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Rightā¦ you felt that they didnāt care, even though youāve never openly expressed what was bothering you. Instead of being honest and vulnerable, you rather blamed it on them and called it quitsā¦. So perhaps your shield started to go up as soon as the person was doing something that was hurting you, but you didnāt have the courage to admit it, and so you switched to sarcasm and started feeling resentment?
Yes exactly! And the thing is whenever I needed something, and it wasnāt there. Like if we scheduled something and Iām giving it importance, but she isnāt, it would just make me furious even though I knew itās not right to be angry on small matters like that and yet I was doing the silent treatment.
January 30, 2023 at 10:44 am #414749TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
thank you for your prayers and support! Thankfully I am a bit better now (had a bit of a rough patch last week) and am continuing with physical therapy.
Finally, I got a really good opportunity for a Management Position and Iām on interview stage so Iām hoping to get this position.
Last time I forgot to congratulate you on you applying for a management position – how did it go? Did you get it?
Iām understanding that now that how much energy and guts needs be sensitive and vulnerable. Yet itās really important. The person we share sad times we bond with them are much stronger than when weāre just smiling around people even though spending more time with them.
Very true! The strength and quality of the relationship can be seen in tough times, not when everything goes smoothly…
Yes you guessed it right. I do think itās maybe because of that
Okay, so be aware that you have this false belief “if I show vulnerability, I’ll be attacked.” And change it to some positive statement about vulnerability, e.g. “showing vulnerability is key for a loving relationship”.
Yes exactly! And the thing is whenever I needed something, and it wasnāt there. Like if we scheduled something and Iām giving it importance, but she isnāt, it would just make me furious even though I knew itās not right to be angry on small matters like that and yet I was doing the silent treatment.
Alright, so now you know what triggered your anger in the relationship: when you felt hurt by something your girlfriend did or failed to do, but were unwilling to express that hurt and tell her what bothers you. Instead, you got angry at her for not seeing your hurt, for not recognizing your needs. That’s when you started to close your heart and the shield went up.
You were angry, even furious at her, but I guess you didn’t want to show your anger either (you didn’t want to be aggressive and yell at her – which is good!). So what you did is use passive aggressive means: sarcasm and silent treatment. They are both expressions of anger, only in a veiled form. With silent treatment, we’re punishing the person for hurting us. The problem is that the person might not even know that they’ve hurt us, since we haven’t told them!
So the solution would be that when you feel your girlfriend is doing something that hurts you – to tell her, instead of resenting her for not figuring it out on her own. Once you tell her, you’ll see how she reacts and whether she can understand and empathize with you…
By the way, I haven’t asked you about your date which was supposed to happen last weekend, right? (around 10 days ago) How did it go, if you don’t mind me asking?
January 31, 2023 at 5:30 am #414787SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Hope youāre doing betterLast time I forgot to congratulate you on you applying for a management position ā how did it go? Did you get it?
Iām still on the last interview stage. So letā see.
These days Iām feeling little burned out, yet I still have to prepare for interview and everything because this is good opportunity.Okay, so be aware that you have this false belief āif I show vulnerability, Iāll be attacked.ā And change it to some positive statement about vulnerability, e.g. āshowing vulnerability is key for a loving relationshipā.
Yes right but like you said around right people.
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So the solution would be that when you feel your girlfriend is doing something that hurts you ā to tell her, instead of resenting her for not figuring it out on her own. Once you tell her, youāll see how she reacts and whether she can understand and empathize with youā¦
You see itās not that easy for me because Iād feel like sheās judging for wrong reasons and not actually understanding me and if I explain her in details it could just make things more uncomfortable.
By the way, I havenāt asked you about your date which was supposed to happen last weekend, right? (around 10 days ago) How did it go, if you donāt mind me asking?
Like I told you before I donāt like the current dating scenario. There is just too much going on and feels like too much work for me. And I donāt want my emotional energy drain that way. I want to be straight-forward about it. But it doesnāt work that way I donāt know
So about the date, It was really good we actually spent more time together than we decided. Had a good coffee and went the near science museum. She was really talkative (Like I noticed before) But tbh I liked her energy and I was comfortable around her. Heck even I was talkative. Sheās simple girl and avid reader and into romance novels a lot. Sheās also outgoing which is good too.
Now the ādating scenarioā so even though next morning she texted me ā I had an amazing time together, we should do this againā and I said yeah me too. After that day I texted her but she was doing like one sentence answers. So I told her good night and slept. And I was talking to my friend and she was like I have to play it cool and donāt seem needy. I mean just texting is needy? I donāt even wanna text anymore if she doesnāt wantā¦so howās that needy? Another day she texted but it was my turn to āplay it coolā and not give her much attention and replying late so yeah itās still going on like that.. š
Another question how much do you aware of the word āsituationshipā?
Also, Few Days ago I read an article about slow living, Are you practicing any kind of things related to that?
February 1, 2023 at 12:49 am #414818TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
I am a bit better, thank you.
Iām still on the last interview stage. So letā see.
These days Iām feeling little burned out, yet I still have to prepare for interview and everything because this is good opportunity.Wish you luck with the interview! What do you think causes your burnout? Just the preparation for the interview or you’re stressed about other things at work?
Yes right but like you said around right people.
Yes, for sure.
You see itās not that easy for me because Iād feel like sheās judging for wrong reasons and not actually understanding me and if I explain her in details it could just make things more uncomfortable.
So, in the imaginary scenario I’ve mentioned earlier (where you don’t want to admit you miss her texts but you make sarcastic remarks instead) – what do you think she would judge you for if you admitted that you miss her texts?
So about the date, It was really good we actually spent more time together than we decided. Had a good coffee and went the near science museum. She was really talkative (Like I noticed before) But tbh I liked her energy and I was comfortable around her. Heck even I was talkative.
This sounds good! You felt comfortable around her, and she around you too, and you spent together more time than planned. You like that she is outgoing (Sheās also outgoing which is good too.). But you also said something which could be both a positive and negative evaluation of her: Sheās simple girl and avid reader and into romance novels a lot.
What do you mean by simple? She doesn’t talk about deeper topics but only about superficial stuff? Or she is easy to be around, not demanding, not judgmental – that kind of simple?
Now the ādating scenarioā so even though next morning she texted me ā I had an amazing time together, we should do this againā and I said yeah me too. After that day I texted her but she was doing like one sentence answers.
So she expressed interest, she even took the initiative and texted you first. But then she started to reply with brief answers… and what happened in your mind and heart then? Have you concluded that she wasn’t interested and you decided to “play it cool”, i.e. act uninterested?
If so, then what happened is that you assumed something about her without asking (you assumed that she wasn’t interested), and then you reacted to that assumption of yours, by acting uninterested…Ā It all happened in your head, since you don’t really know what she thinks or feels about you…
And I was talking to my friend and she was like I have to play it cool and donāt seem needy. I mean just texting is needy? I donāt even wanna text anymore if she doesnāt wantā¦so howās that needy?
No, texting isn’t needy at all. If I were you, and I liked the girl, I would have actually called her… I think talking over the phone is a much better way to bond that texting. Unless you don’t feel comfortable talking on the phone, or you feel it’s too soon?
Another day she texted but it was my turn to āplay it coolā and not give her much attention and replying late so yeah itās still going on like that
Sorry about that. Yeah, those are the games we play, and they are exhausting. No wonder you feel it’s draining your energy (feels like too much work for me. And I donāt want my emotional energy drain that way).
I want to be straight-forward about it. But it doesnāt work that way I donāt know
Actually, it could be straightforward, but only if you stop playing games. Don’t listen to your friends’ advice, don’t play it “cool”, don’t assume things about the girl before asking her…. Communication is key – honest and open communication.
I think this could be a great opportunity to practice honest communication. You could actually tell her “hey I see you’re curt in your replies – is there something wrong?” Or, you could ask her “Can I call you?” Maybe it turns out she likes talking on the phone better. So the key would be to communicate, not to assume things…
February 2, 2023 at 10:17 am #414884SereneWolfParticipantDear Tee,
Oh Iām glad to know that youāre doing bit better. Day by day progress š
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Wish you luck with the interview! What do you think causes your burnout? Just the preparation for the interview or youāre stressed about other things at work?
Thanks! There is preparation for the interview because Iām doubting my abilities again.
Iām stressed out for other things like if Iām going to join the company, again Iāll have to build the good team relationships with different people. The team that I have now Iām just too much comfortable around them but now thinking about other people and task feels like so much challenge and Iām feeling anxious, overwhelmed and about this. Iām asking myself like am I capable of doing this?Ā
So, in the imaginary scenario Iāve mentioned earlier (where you donāt want to admit you miss her texts but you make sarcastic remarks instead) ā what do you think she would judge you for if you admitted that you miss her texts?
Well that would be like Iām kind of dependent? Also itās just I donāt know awkward for me
Thanks for your advice for the date Iāll take the important notes like Asking instead of assuming and Honest and open communication.
So just today we were talking and out of nowhere she asked like are you a person who prefers commitment in relationship or the other way around. So I told her that Honestly if sheās thinking about anything long term commitment with me She can stop. Because as of now Iām not ready for that and therefore I donāt want to waste your time and energy if you want something like that. So she was like I already feel exhausted from dating and things (Sheās same age as me) So I was surprised. So I was like I feel like Iāve only started this. And youāre already exhausted? So Yeah I said No to her. I do feel little sad and already miss her a little.
February 3, 2023 at 1:23 am #414905TeeParticipantDear SereneWolf,
Iām stressed out for other things like if Iām going to join the company, again Iāll have to build the good team relationships with different people.
Oh so you would be leaving to another company? I thought you’d be moving up the ladder in your current one… What made you want to leave so soon, after only 3 months of being a manager there?
The team that I have now Iām just too much comfortable around them but now thinking about other people and task feels like so much challenge and Iām feeling anxious, overwhelmed and about this. Iām asking myself like am I capable of doing this?
Well, it is sort of sudden… Although you’d probably manage to get used to the new people, just like you did with your current team. You say you feel “too much comfortable” around them – does it mean the atmosphere is pleasant and you work well together as a team? What about the changes and improvements you’ve introduced – are you pleased with that?
Well that would be like Iām kind of dependent? Also itās just I donāt know awkward for me
Okay, so if you show the need for her love and attention, you’re afraid you’ll seem needy, and this to you is a weakness, right?
There is a great video by Henry Cloud about the importance of connection. He talks about 4 states we can be in: 1) alone and disconnected, 2) in a bad relationship, 3) numbing the pain of loneliness with various addictions including escape into work, and 4) in a healthy relationship.
The title of the video is “Why it’s important to stay connected“. In the first 2 minutes there’s a bit of rambling, but after that he gets into the meat of it – definitely worth watching!
Thanks for your advice for the date Iāll take the important notes like Asking instead of assuming and Honest and open communication.
You’re welcome!
So just today we were talking and out of nowhere she asked like are you a person who prefers commitment in relationship or the other way around. So I told her that Honestly if sheās thinking about anything long term commitment with me She can stop. Because as of now Iām not ready for that and therefore I donāt want to waste your time and energy if you want something like that.
I see… so it seems your fear of a long-term commitment got triggered when she mentionedĀ it, and your knee-jerk reaction was to run away. A while ago we talked about a committed relationship and freedom, and how it is possible to have both, of course with the right person. But I guess you fear was stronger, so you didn’t want to even try to see what happens next in the relationship and if such compatibility is possible. You called it quits immediately. I am not saying this to judge you, but so you can notice what happened…
So she was like I already feel exhausted from dating and things (Sheās same age as me) So I was surprised. So I was like I feel like Iāve only started this. And youāre already exhausted?
Well, it could be that she’s already experienced quite a few failed relationships and would like at least a chance at something serious? That the guy she is dating doesn’t categorically refuse such an option…
Maybe her question scared you away, because you thought she’ll be expecting you to marry her? But perhaps she only asked if you’re open to a long-term committed relationship, i.e. don’t exclude this possibility from the get-go?
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