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July 18, 2018 at 8:55 am #217447SheelanagigParticipant
Hello, This is going to be a long post and I apologize in advance. I need some help gaining some perspective. I feel like my insecurities and emotions are clouding me. I was reading a lot of posts on this website and found them to be challenging, insightful, engaging and compassionate. The things I am about to write are about some of my actions, and are painful for me to admit.
Last June I asked my husband for a separation. We’ve been living apart for the past year. The time apart has been helpful in letting us regain our centers and work on ourselves. We are both hoping to reconcile and have a better relationship. He has been feeling this way the whole time, my feelings just became open to this about one month ago. Shortly after I felt this way some financial issues and issues having to do with our son compelled us to move back in together. I would have liked to continue to live separately but that’s not an option right now, and we are trying to make the best of it. I feel like I need space and time to work on those patterns inside me that are abusive towards self and others. This situation leaves me feeling shaky but hopeful.
Last August I met a man online who lived far away in another state. We started talking as friends. He gave me a lot of attention, and I felt as if he was really there for me, listened to me, saw me, was compassionate and caring. He came and visited in October and December visited and we made love, and I felt like that was the first time I had ever actually made love in my entire life. We continued to talk and be friends. My feelings for him were growing and I started to believe we were soulmates and that he was my angel (I feel really stupid saying that now). Though my relationship with him, talking reading and writing, I felt like I was able to confront and work through so many of my issues. March of this year I found out that he was in a long term relationship with another woman, and they lived together. I confronted him, and he admitted, apologized, said he is not happy in the relationship emotionally or sexually or spiritually. Said he didn’t think to tell me about her bc when we started talking he didn’t think we would end up connecting so well so he hid it from me, and just continued the lie. For about a month we talked on and off, it was emotional and passionate, we talked things out and worked things through. I told him he needs to figure out whatever he is doing with his girlfriend, and I am going to use this time to work on becoming empowered, and that despite his dishonesty, I valued the friendship. Somehow all of this brought us closer emotionally. We did phone sex and sexting often. The things became sexual, the less friendship and emotional connection I felt. I went and visited him last month and we had an amazing time together. Last week I told him I was moving back in with my husband. He has barely contacted me. The one time he did it was to sext. I feel so stupid and used. I feel used sexually and I feel stupid that I was so naive and trusting. I feel horribly manipulated. I feel angry that I allowed myself to be manipulated. I wonder what is wrong with me that I would allow this to happen. I am idealistic, and feel I gave him too much benefit of the doubt. Now I feel like he was a narcissist who stole my soul, but at the same time, don’t want to demonize him and make myself into a victim. What is wrong with me, and what is wrong with him? What is happening and what should I do? I decided I will not contact him, but unsure how to respond when he contacts me. Any insight or guidance would be very greatly appreciated.
July 19, 2018 at 9:14 am #217657AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
When you confronted him about him living with a girlfriend and not revealing that to you for the seven months relationship with you (August-March), he told you that “he didn’t think to tell me about her bc when we started talking he didn’t think we would end up connecting so well so he hid it from me, and just continued the lie”-
this means that for him, it is okay to lie to a woman for as long as he doesn’t feel “connected so well” to the woman. It also means that once he does feel connected-so-well to a woman, it is still okay to lie to her, to “continue the lie”.
“What is wrong with him?” you asked. My answer, in the context of your share, is that the thing that is wrong with him is that it is okay with him to lie and continue a lie in a relationship.
“What is wrong with me?” you asked. My answer: you liked him a whole lot. The relationship with him meant a lot to you. Once the truth hit you, you pushed away the inconvenient truth from your awareness, and pretended best you could that it wasn’t there.
I hope to read from you again.
anita
July 19, 2018 at 9:16 am #217659AnonymousGuest* didn’t reflect under Topics
July 19, 2018 at 9:41 am #217665SheelanagigParticipantIâm sorry, I never posted before, and wasnât sure what to call the thread but it did feel like I was lost in a hurricane and overwhelmed and did not know where to go or how to get there and I canât see anything.
July 19, 2018 at 9:44 am #217667SheelanagigParticipantThanks for writing. Yes that is true. This morning I texted him and said I can no longer participate in this dynamic and I wish him well and blocked him. Then I bought a book on narcissist and codependent relationships and who to truly be able to see myself and heal. I ha e a Similar dynamic with all men in my life and Iâm tired of it and need a change. I feel a lot better today and after I blocked him.
July 19, 2018 at 9:55 am #217671AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
You are welcome. I am glad you are feeling better after blocking him. You mentioned “a similar dynamic with all men in (your) life”. What dynamic is that?
anita
July 19, 2018 at 10:00 am #217677SheelanagigParticipantThe dynamic is like the men are strong and independent and not giving me all the love and attention I want so I just sit there with my lip out  crying and feeling anxious. I have a 3 yr old and I canât keep acting like a desperate little kid myself anymore. I need to love and honor myself and I try so hard to learn how to do it but I still have the feeling all the time of being sad and anxious bc Ifeel unloved. Same thing w all my boyfriends and husband. Probably parents too but I kind of block that out.
July 19, 2018 at 10:14 am #217681AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
When we “block that out”, that being what harmed us in the context of our relationships with our parents when we were children, we keep re-living what happened there in our romantic relationships as adults. Maybe it is time to unblock that?
anita
July 19, 2018 at 11:07 am #217711SheelanagigParticipantYes this wounding is something I realized a few months ago but am still âfullyâ realizing it. Itâs a slow process especially bc my parents are still in my life.
July 20, 2018 at 5:38 am #217817AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
You are welcome to share here about your wounding and your current relationship with your parents, if you would like. I will read attentively and respond thoughtfully, if you do.
anita
July 20, 2018 at 8:50 am #217873SheelanagigParticipantThank you so much, Anita. I started crying when I read this comment from you. My emotions are getting the best of me. I can’t sleep and lost weight and didn’t go to work yesterday and am work now but just close the door and cry. I feel sooo sad. And angry. I feel like the man who I had the affair with, “S,” targeted me and I let him. I told him all of my most intimate secrets and fears, and I felt like he was the first man who ever SAW me and that we had a spiritual connection. And now I realize it was a fake manipulation in order to conquer me. He groomed me. And I am a trusting and loving and generous and soulful person and I opened up so much to him. I was separated from my husband and the relationship was abusive so I was extra raw and vulnerable. I told him about abuse I suffered in the past, and how I felt like a bunny and the men were predators like wolves and I didn’t feel safe. I opened up to him because I need my heart to stay open and pure and trusting and I can’t let it shut down from being hurt. He reassured me and comforted me but really he was preying on me the whole time. It makes me feel so scared and unsafe and like people are going to prey on me and I can’t keep myself safe. I think I’m reverting to a child right now. I am sobbing at the keyboard at work hoping no one hears me.
I want to make this painful experience into a learning experience, especially because I am about to move back in w/ my husband. I don’t want to make the same mistakes that led to our unhealthy dynamic. I have been reading a lot about narcissism and co-dependents and find it very very familiar to my experiences. I know deep within there is a wound that is so deep it is probably in my DNA. I don’t know what to do with this knowledge. My parents never honored me as an individual when I was a kid and are both narcissistic and codependent.
“Perceptive children will also pick up on the emotional vulnerability of their parents. They will compliment their parent or try to be a perfect reflection of them. They hope that taking care of mom or dad will shore the parent up enough so he or she can eventually get back to taking care of them. With all of that care directed at parents, these children will likely lose touch with their own emotions and needs.”
I read this today and it explained what things were like with me, but my parents were often angry and disappointed and I think us kids were trying to assuage them at our expense. I don’t know how to explore the dynamics with my parents. I just remember the painful times in my childhood when I felt unloved? So what will that do besides make me feel anger at them? Are my memories even accurate? I understand on an intellectual level that relationships w/ my parents made me have some codependent and probably narcissistic behaviors, but how do I turn the intellectual knowledge into a felt experience of awareness, compassion, change and healing inside me?
July 20, 2018 at 9:24 am #217895AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
A quality psychotherapy situation, one with a capable, empathetic therapist that you learn to trust, one who treats you respectfully and attentively, where you feel safe, is the place to “turn the intellectual knowledge into a felt experience of awareness, compassion, change and healing inside (you)”.
Otherwise, it may help you to share about your childhood experience, here on your thread (if you so choose) in this way: use words a child would use, don’t use terms you read about like narcissist, co dependent, grooming and so forth. Use a simple language, shot sentences, like a young child uses.
I suggested it to members before. Hardly anyone takes this challenge. It is difficult to do, uncomfortable in the context of a public forum, I imagine. Maybe you can do it outside the forum.
By using a child’s language, you depart temporarily from that intellectual-adult mindset and go to the emotional child that you were.
anita
July 20, 2018 at 10:49 am #217913SheelanagigParticipantI have an appt w/ my therapist next week. She’s great. I need to go more often.
Thank you for that interesting suggestion regarding speaking from a child’s place. My first reaction was like yeah I could do that, easy, then I started to and my brain wouldn’t even let me complete one sentence because I felt too scared and vulnerable. Not because it’s a public forum, but because it feels so scary and powerless to go to that place.
i feel scared
my mom is mean
my mom is crying
my dad is mean
my dad is kicking stuff around
i feel frozen
i dont know how to move
i hope they leave me alone
i hope they dont pick at me
i just want to color and play outside
my brother is crying
my dad is so mean to him
i wish he’d leave him alone
but at least its not me
why is my mom crying
why is she slapping me
i have to hide
i have to be quiet
i have to shut down
i have to be tough
I have to fight
im so mad
i hate everyone
no ones gonna hurt me
ill run away
ill be alone
ill be scared
Ill be small
ill run around the forest and pretend im a fairy
ill eat sticks and grass and someone
an angel maybe will come save me
July 20, 2018 at 11:55 am #217933AnonymousGuestDear Sheelanagig:
You did it! I am so impressed. My goodness, you did such a great job.
The sentences you wrote are so powerful. The words we use, read about and use, such as co dependent and narcissist, how pale they are compared to the simple, direct, raw words of a child.
You wrote: “I feel too scared and vulnerable… powerless”- this is how a child feels when in danger, scared and powerless.
You were in danger, at least, you perceived to be in danger. Aggression scares a child (“my mom is mean… my dad is mean…my dad is kicking stuff around…why is she slapping me”). A parent who expresses distress for long is perceived as danger for a child because it means the parent is not strong enough to take care of the child or maybe it means she will die and leave the child alone (“my mom is crying…why is my mom crying… I’ll be alone”).
The child is powerless and needs to be saved: “I’ll run around the forest and pretend I’m a fairy- i’ll eat sticks and grass and someone-an angle maybe will come save me”
I will soon be away from the computer for about 15 hours. I want to go back to your powerful thread when I am back. If you want to post again, please do. I would very much like to read more from you. If other members reply to you I hope they are sensitive to the nature of your sharing, to the child that is still there, still you.
Please take good care of yourself.
anita
July 21, 2018 at 6:07 am #217983SheelanagigParticipantThank you Anita. You are wise.
This exercise brought to light my habit of dissociation. And also just being confused and clueless as to what is going on in the adults world and how that is so scary. How I felt like I was a bad kid. And felt so misunderstood and unsupported. I guess itâs like what Iâm used to. Feeling sad and anxious and wanting and grasping and waiting for some guy to give me approval and attention. I t is definitely a habit ingrained in my brain. I have some insight and try to shake myself out of it. I know it is a process but in the meantime I want to lessen any damage I do to myself and other people, esp my son. Maybe I should write letters or imagine scenarios where Iâm comforting the little girl me. Iâve done it before but maybe more of hat will help that connection between her and me grow.
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