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June 8, 2020 at 6:57 am #357878CeciliaParticipant
Hello!
I introduce myself: 46 year old woman. I discovered this site last year when I was experiencing a difficult romantic breakup. A six-year LDR which I had to put an end to because my spouse could no longer communicate and had taken a distance which no longer allowed us to move forward together. He was experiencing undiagnosed health problems. He didn’t even want me to go to his house anymore. I made the heartbreaking decision to write him a breakup letter … to which he never replied. Then I proposed that we meet a few months later, he was open to it but advised me that he had met someone … I was devastated and choose not to have this meeting. I have done several readings here which have helped me.
A few weeks later, I reached out a man I once knew 15 years ago and for whom I had developed feelings. At the time, he told me that he felt more like a friendship, which we pursued, but overnight, I never heard from him again … I never knew the reason. In short, in December 2019 we started to communicate by Messenger again. Everything was magic: we had common interests, surprising connections, similar values. When we saw each other, we really enjoyed ourselves. We started to see each other frequently. He told me that he had completed his transition from his last relationship (ended in summer of 2019). On my side, I knew that I had some issues to address but I was advancing. However, I pointed out to him that I felt he was fragile when he spoke of his ex but he said he was ok and had discussed it with his therapist. He told me he felt good with me, that I matched everything he wanted. I told him that I was a fairly calm person who liked to take her time in relationships (which was the opposite of her ex). He said he was delighted by this because he saw that intense relationships did not work for him … In short, we started to see each other frequently, we spent whole weekends together. Then, in early March, one afternoon, he changed his attitude completely, I did not understand, he explained to me that he had seen photos of his ex on Facebook who was with a new man. He was devastated. I accompanied him that evening, and several times thereafter, I accepted his grief, left him space to live all of it but just before confinement, we opened up on the subject and he said he was all mixed up. We spent the whole day in bed chatting, crying, kissing, caressing … he then said he was interested in continuing and said he was attracted to me. After that evening, he wrote to me every day that followed for several weeks. He always took my news, sent me things that interested me, asked me lots of questions … And then two weeks ago, he became cold and distant. I questioned: he said he was troubled by the pandemic, his children, his work, etc. We met after and I asked more questions and there he told me that he had lost momentum and interest in continuing … After this meeting, I wrote him an email to explain to him how I felt. We talked a bit on Messenger but on banalities and he never came back on this email … I feel abandoned again, as if there was not enough consideration for me to at least attest to having read my message … indifference, after having experienced that kind of intensity from the start, I don’t understand it …And how can someone changed his views while we couldn’t see each other during the lockdown! Of course, it was more dull but we had each other to talk about all the challenges of the pandemic situation! And I was hoping, after all of it, we could see each other again and see what’s happening in a more normal context…I feel I didn’t act correctly…Maybe I should have disappear of his life when he mentioned being troubled by his ex’s photos? But, am an empathic person and I wanted to be there for him and for what we were building together…Seems I was the only one in that…It’s so difficult. I just feel like writing to him to tell him that could have at least told me that he received my email, saying something like “thank for sharing your toughts, I don’t think I need to say more but I understand your point of view and I respect you.” Why some people are not able to do that?!?
Thank you!
June 8, 2020 at 8:54 am #357930JanParticipantDear Cecilia
I don’t know how long he’s been split up from his ex but he sounds like a man on the rebound. He has told you at different times that he was more interested in a friendship with you than a romantic relationship and that he was ‘delighted’ that you wanted to go slow (not that stopped him sleeping with you!). But you have pushed and pushed for him to behave like a committed lover with you, which he is just not ready or willing to do.
I would suggest not contacting him again, however hard you find it. Let him know that, if and when he is ready for the sort of relationship you want with him, he should contact you (and you may or not be available, you are entitled to move on if you want to). And let him bridge the gap between you, don’t keep doing it yourself. That is what makes him go cold and distant, putting pressure on him. Maybe he will get back to you in the future and, if he does, do what you say and go slow (and that means no sex until he has proved himself willing to commit to you). But if he never does get back to you, you will have to accept that. You cannot force someone to be what you want them to be.
Hope this helps.
Jan
June 8, 2020 at 10:21 am #357939AnonymousGuestDear Cecilia:
“two weeks ago, he became cold and distant. I questioned: he said he was troubled by the pandemic, his children, his work, etc… he told me that he had lost momentum and interest in continuing.. I wrote him an email .. he never came back on this email.. there was not enough consideration for me to at least attest to having read my message”- I agree, it was inconsiderate of him, at the least, to not reply to your message. It was hurtful behavior on his part to not reply to your email.
“I don’t understand it.. how can someone changed his views while we couldn’t see each other during lockdown!”? – it is possible that during lockdown he started to communicate online with another woman, maybe his ex, maybe someone else. Some people, when depressed look for something new and exciting to.. sort of, wake them up from their depression. Other people withdraw when depressed, wanting to be left alone, to not be bothered by anyone or anything.
“I feel I didn’t act correctly.. Maybe I should have..”- I didn’t read anything you did wrong with him. It reads to me that he got depressed during the lockdown and either found something exciting to make him forget his troubles, or that he withdrew from anyone he didn’t have to interact with.
Again, he should have answered your email and he should have answered it honestly, empathetically and respectfully. How are you feeling now, as you read this?
anita
June 8, 2020 at 1:06 pm #357952CeciliaParticipantDear Jan,
Thank you so much for your response and your insights. It’s very helpful.
I struggled for a long time against the idea of rebound because I had expressed this fear to him from the start … I should have listened to how I felt but I wanted so much to start this relationship …
They broke up in the summer of 2019. She was the one who put an end to it, among other things because she thought it was someone who took little initiative. He tells me he had a very difficult summer. Then they met again in December, with physical intimacy. She told him then that it meant nothing to her and that there was no false hope. And I contacted him 2 weeks after this happened…
It is true that I led him to want to position himself, but he was sending me signals that I thought were those of a man interested in going towards this type of relationship with me. It is true that when I proposed supper with my family, he quickly declined telling me that he was not ready … but he made me meet his cousin and his wife the week before. ..I did not understand too much. I love your words: “And let him bridge the gap between you, don’t keep doing it yourself.” I will try to repeat it to myself when the urge comes to contact him … I just find it difficult to think back to all these good moments together, everything was going so well from the start until this event … I wanted to be there for him but it may not be me that he needs…
June 8, 2020 at 1:26 pm #357955CeciliaParticipantDear Anita, Thank you for your answer. Your words, which I read on this forum concerning other subjects, are always full of empathy and light.
I am still very hurt by the fact that he did not respond to my email, especially because we wrote by chat afterwards and that he pretended that it did not exist! I had considered the scenario that he could have started to communicate with someone else indeed … he is a known person so he often receives messages from girls. But I find your interpretation very suitable: he seeks novelty, intensity … and he told me that he had grown tired of our exchanges, that the fact that we were in lockdown made our exchanges less “surprising” “and that he no longer had the taste as much as before talking to me … It is very hard to receive because, as I told him, I have not changed myself, I am the same girl of the start. I try to support him … but when we met in person two weeks ago, he told me that his self-esteem was zero, that he felt fuzzy in all aspects of his life and s apologize for making me experience this. He did not feel ready to continue a relationship when I have expectations that he cannot currently meet … I was still hurt when he said to me: I could meet someone in a month, be attracted to something new and start a relationship. It’s very difficult to hear … I also explained to him how I felt in the email but since I don’t have a follow-up, I don’t know what he might have thought of it … I tend to try to find what I did not have or what I did which did not suit … I know that he was already reluctant just before the lockdown (but I was the one asking him to make a decision because he was not able to do it) but why not give the chance to continue to see if it evolves? I felt a little needy about being dissatisfied that he did not respond to my email … but you validate my emotion of frustration and disappointment … As if I did not deserve an answer …
June 8, 2020 at 1:47 pm #357961AnonymousGuestDear Cecilia:
But you do deserve an answer and he was/ is wrong to not have answered you.
“I told him, I have not changed myself, I am the same girl of the start“, but if he “often receives messages from girls”, and “he seeks novelty, intensity”, and “he had grown tired” of the exchanges with you, no longer experience the surprises he likes to experience.. then he doesn’t want “the same girl of the start”-he wants someone new, a surprise.
It is sad when that happens, and it hurts, to want someone long term, to settle with but he doesn’t want the same. If he was open to get to know you better, he would have found the novelty, intensity and surprise that he needs, but.. like so many people, it seems to me, he doesn’t want to bother investing in a deeper, lasting, quality relationship.
anita
June 8, 2020 at 2:23 pm #357963CeciliaParticipantYou are so right Anita…His ex girlfriend was very intense at the beginning (she followed him by car to his apartment the first time they met in a convention to kiss him…he was completely in shock but in a good way!) I’m not like that at all…I like that things grow…But he kept saying that it was not something for him because it’s like a rollercoaster and when the ride is over, these people just land off…
You know what? I feel ashamed having develop feelings for him more than he did, that I thought he was Mr Right…I don’t know why but it’s like I misread the whole thing…and that he got bored a longtime ago and I didn’t back off at the time…Feels like I was not good enough and that when he started to know me better, he just quit…
June 8, 2020 at 2:41 pm #357964AnonymousGuestDear Cecilia:
If he is into rollercoasters, he should go to rollercoaster parks, not attempting to get a ride from a good woman like you.
“that he got bored” with you is not because you are boring, but because you are not a rollercoaster ride: you are a woman with feelings and a need to love and be loved, not a ride for him to get his excitement and surprises!
“Feels like I was not good enough”, no, you are good enough. It’s just that he is looking for something he shouldn’t look for in a woman. (Maybe that’s why in Dec when he had physical intimacy with his ex, she told him “that it meant nothing to her”, maybe she reciprocated it having meant nothing to him first, maybe).
“I feel ashamed having developed feelings for him”- I wish you didn’t feel ashamed for needing to be loved. Unlike him, you were willing to do what it takes to love and be loved. He wasn’t willing to reciprocate, as I understand it.
anita
June 9, 2020 at 6:08 am #357999JanParticipantDear Cecilia
I’m so glad my advice has helped you. You sound like a lovely person who basically has her head screwed on the right way but, like most of us, can make mistakes with men from time to time. Nothing to be ashamed of, just learn and move on.
You said:
“she thought it was someone who took little initiative”
This makes me wonder if he behaved the same way with her as he did with you? He may just be relationship-phobic, for whatever reason. He seems to go just so far and no further, perhaps just enough to keep you on a string and available for sex? Not the kind of man any woman needs in her life. He probably got hung up on her because she didn’t really want a relationship with him. Had she decided she did, he would most likely have gone cold and distant with her, too.
I think it’s important to stop thinking about him as much as you possibly can and look for someone who actually is ready for a relationship. Easier said than done, I know! But I think your future happiness depends on moving on without him.
all the best
Jan
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June 9, 2020 at 6:28 am #358006JanParticipantOne last thought, Cecilia. Do you think it possible that you, too, were on the rebound after the ending of your six year LDR? You reached out to him very soon after it ended so perhaps were just looking for someone (anyone?) to heal your emotional wounds? You say you developed feelings for him, was that before you reached out to him? Because, if so, that kind of backs up my hunch. He says he’s ‘mixed up’ and you mention that he has a therapist so perhaps he is not the most emotionally healthy man? I’d suggest that you give yourself a little time to adjust to being single again before you attempt another serious relationship. Date for fun for a while! J x
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June 15, 2020 at 6:22 pm #358668CeciliaParticipantA few days have passed since my last message. I contacted him again, to check if he had received my message. He said yes, but that he was in his email returns over his head and that he had not returned to mine … and that it required a lot of concentration. It’s been a week already and I still haven’t gotten back. We also wrote each other this weekend, I asked him if he was uncomfortable that I write him on Messenger, he replied that for the moment, no and he has changed the subject. What could I have done or said so that it is this completely detached attitude ?? I don’t understand this behavior … I feel used. I was so present at the time when he lived a lot of sadness in front of his ex … and now that he does not need it anymore, he throws me … It is painful. I wonder if he has not already started a relationship with someone else, I would still have liked him to be honest and tell me.
So I decided yesterday not to contact him anymore. I blocked everything on Facebook. It will be difficult, I always have something to share with him, an article, a video, an image … but I believe that I must withdraw from his life since he no longer wants me to be there …
June 15, 2020 at 6:35 pm #358669CeciliaParticipantDear Jan,
I also believe that his initiative problem is reflected in his behavior with me. I have always been the one who had to approach things, I think he tends to avoid conversations that will touch emotions (except when he pours out his problems with his ex and I listen to him! !)
As for his ex, she quickly became very serious in the relationship. She made plans for family vacations (both have children, not me), renovate a cottage, live together, etc. He says that what is difficult for him is to mourn all these plans. When she told him that she had never had such a fulfilling relationship and then, she gave up on him.
I knew him several years ago. It was then that I had feelings for him. When I contacted him in December, it was to hear from him, but obviously, it is someone who has always interested me! It is indeed possible that I needed something after my breakup and that he helped me. But I really developed feelings for him … we have so much in common! But you are right to point out that he is not emotionally stable at the moment … and maybe his attitude towards me and this decision is related to all this rather than to me exclusively …
June 16, 2020 at 10:10 am #358716AnonymousGuestDear Cecilia:
You wrote yesterday that the day before (that would be Sunday), you decided to not contact him anymore, and that you blocked him on Facebook. Is today then two days of no contact with him, and how are you feeling today?
anita
June 16, 2020 at 1:12 pm #358728CeciliaParticipantExactly Anita. I’m now on Day 3 of NC. It’s so difficult! Sometimes, (particularly at night and when I wake up), I feel that he’s the only thing I could think of! We used to text each other each night and each morning, and sometimes, through the day. Again, I’m searching what I’ve done that he changes his views about me so fast and so drastically. And to not be able to just be friend to one another. Because for me, a relationship may go beyond just love feelings…It’s being real to each other, and appreciate the other person as a whole. It’s like he rejected everything that I am. Not just the part of me that could be his lover…
I’ve set a goal of NC for 21 days. I’ll see where I am after…But this is going to be hard! He’s playing in a band and I was supposed to watch their show on Monday on the internet. Now, I’m not sure it’s a good idea!!
June 16, 2020 at 1:50 pm #358733AnonymousGuestDear Cecilia:
I wish you success in achieving your 21 days No Contact goal, 18 days to go! I understand that you grew emotionally attached to him and you miss having been in daily contact with him, and that you had hopes for a future together with him. Therefore NC is difficult, and it is difficult to give up on hopes and dreams attached to a particular person.
“It’s like he rejected everything that I am”- it doesn’t mean that you are not good enough. Think of this: lots of people reject healthy food and choose junk food. They reject what is good for them!
In your 21 NC quest, if it helps you to post here, please do, anytime day or night for however long.
anita
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