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October 6, 2022 at 1:04 pm #408043AnonymousGuest
Dear Katrine Nielsen:
I’d say a 1/4- 1/3 of a standard paper size would be the limit. You can post a first draft right here and if you would like, I will edit it for you (for length and content). You can then tell me your thoughts about my editing and we can both come up with a final draft.
anita
October 7, 2022 at 11:24 am #408077Katrine NielsenParticipantMy two girlfriends from work are going out and party with him and now I’m really jeloux cuz they didn’t ask me. I have never seen him flirt with them so maybe I’m overeacting i really hope so. I’m thinking about writing instead that way i can say everything and he can prosess and reread it. I need to tell him hopefully i still have a chance.
October 7, 2022 at 6:20 pm #408094AnonymousGuestDear Katrine Nielsen:
I agree that writing to him is the best choice. Do you know (by the time you are reading this message) why your two girlfriends did not ask you to join them on the night out?
anita
October 8, 2022 at 7:44 am #408100Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Anita,
Yes writing would definitly be best. I’ll write down the mess I have in my head, and we can try to sort it from there.
No I don’t know why they didn’t ask me, hopefully it doesn’t mean anything negative. My brain is always thinking worse case scenario. But doesn’t feel good not to be included.
October 8, 2022 at 7:58 am #408102AnonymousGuestDear Katrine Nielsen:
I know how it feels to not be included, not good at all. Whenever you are ready to write down what you want him to read, do so and we’ll take it from there.
anita
October 9, 2022 at 9:20 am #408235Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Anita,
Here’s what i have been thinking about saying.
So I just want to apologize for my behaviour the past couple of months. When my anxiety kicks in I shut down. Really it’s a compliment I only react this strongly when i really fall for someone, which is rare. But it’s rude and it’s not okay. I forgot to thank you for the effort you put in to teach me yoga, it was a really good session. And your right i definitly have to try a turkish restaurant one day, i have already found a couple of interesting one’s and I gonna try one soon.
So this is very messy. The points i want to make is that 1) the reason i have come across as rude and disinterested is in fact because i liked him so much 2) apreciating his time and effort on the yoga day( i didn’t say it on the day because i felt so low) and then end with the restaurant because it’s positive and he have a change to join me if he wants to
October 9, 2022 at 11:03 am #408236AnonymousGuestDear Katrine Nielsen:
What you wrote as a first draft reads fine except that it is not challenging (you didn’t include a single questions for him), and it is not direct (you didn’t suggest going to a Turkish restaurant with him and you didn’t suggest a relationship with him). It is fine with me that you send him this message just as you presented it, but I want to offer you a different version by the end of this post.
You’ve been thinking of writing him a message and contemplating about what to include in the message for 2 weeks now. In regard to the message, you wrote September 27 and onward: (1) “I was thinking about apologizing for my behaviour and say when my anxiety kicks in I become rude without knowing (shutting down, ignoring people) and it’s hard for me to keep a conversation going (he had to constantly be the conversation starter)… tell him that… I like him so much so I shut down to protect myself (letting him know I ignored him because I liked (him), not because I didn’t care… I really want to emphasize that my rude behaviour over the past months was because of my anxiety and that I like him so much”, (2) “and then tell him I appreciate him taking time meeting me and give a yoga session (something positive that I unfortunately didn’t do on the day)” (3) “at the end maybe wrap it up with the Turkish restaurant he thinks I should try. Then he has a chance to join me if he wants to” (4) “I need to keep focus on me then he has space to think if he wants to… Keeping it simple“.
My suggested version: Hi (or Dear… however you normally address people)___ (name):
First, I want to say thank you for meeting me that day in the park and giving me a yoga lesson. I very much appreciate you taking the time and the effort, and I appreciate you overall, as a person: very much so!
Thing is, so far, when I liked someone very much, I got scared and I shut down so to protect myself. In the park, in the pub, and otherwise in the last two months, because I like you so much, I shut down in the following ways: I did not express my appreciation of you, I did not initiate a conversation with you, and I didn’t keep a conversation (that you started) going, I left without saying goodbye, I ignored and avoided you… All these are rude behaviors. But they were not about me disliking you; the opposite is true: I like you very much!
Regardless of the explanation to my rude behaviors, I am responsible for how I behave, and I sincerely apologize. It is my intent to treat people kindly, especially the people I like the most. It will be difficult to accomplish this long-term because of my anxiety and my tendency to shut down, but I will try my best!
I was wondering, maybe you can help me with my goal of not shutting down when I like someone very much… maybe you can help me to keep a conversation going and to remain open instead of shutting down: how about you joining me to a Turkish restaurant, my treat, and we can talk about it?
Sincerely, Katrine.
– What do you think about my version?
anita
October 9, 2022 at 2:23 pm #408250Katrine NielsenParticipantMy struggle is i want to be direct about my feelings about him over the many monthd, but giving him space to come to me. Like i want him to know that i won’t reject him if he makes a move, I don’t want to spook him. My friend asked me (when i asked him about the karate date) if i was sure that he knew that it was me asking him out on a date. I then told him how much i was looking forward to it and that i really like his company, his reply got shorter. Like he it was getting too close. I am afraid of making him bolt. Because that’s what I do when a guy i like is too direct, i panic a bit. I wanna make sure there’s space for him to come to me, so to avoid him shut ting down. If that makes sense.
October 9, 2022 at 7:02 pm #408253AnonymousGuestDear Katrine Nielsen:
“I want to be direct about my feelings about him over the many months, but giving him space to come to me… I don’t want to spook him… too direct... I am afraid of making him bolt“- you can send him parts of the message I suggested, the parts you feel that are not too direct, and not include the last paragraph where I suggested that you offer to treat him to a meal at the Turkish restaurant.
anita
October 10, 2022 at 6:36 am #408265Katrine NielsenParticipantGood idea! I’m thinking about writing him tomorrow when I’m off work. Better to get it over with.
October 10, 2022 at 7:32 am #408267AnonymousGuestDear Katrine Nielsen:
Your situation had me thinking earlier of the term analysis-paralysis, which means that in a situation where there is a lot of uncertainty, some people (more than others) tend to overanalyze and overthink the situation so much and for so long, that.. no action is taken. Like you wrote in your most recent post, and I agree: “better get it over with“, better shake off that paralysis and take the action (sending him a written message), an action that you considered taking for the last two weeks.
Remember that it is most important that you express yourself honestly and simply- regardless of how he will react. No matter what you write to him, no matter how careful, you cannot predict or guarantee that he will react the way you want him to react. His behavior is out of your control.
anita
October 10, 2022 at 9:05 am #408271Katrine NielsenParticipantHi Anita,
That’s true. I don’t think that he will ask me out after it. But it’s gonna be a very good learning experience for me. Also i see a lot in my behaviour that i need to change whrn it comes to dating. Which is really good, because if i don’t know what to change then it’s impossible to change. I can tell myself if I csn do this then I can be very proud of myself. I know now that a relationship is more than two people liking each other, and both of us have a bagage with us that makes this even harder. And really it’s a compliment to him, and who doesn’t like compliment right?
October 10, 2022 at 9:10 am #408272AnonymousGuestDear Katrine:
“who doesn’t like compliment right?“- yes, people love compliments, I do, as long as the compliments are sincere. Focus on expressing yourself simply and sincerely regardless of his reaction or lack of. Do this for yourself!
anita
October 11, 2022 at 2:31 am #408299Katrine NielsenParticipantYes the compliments definitly has to be sincere.
October 12, 2022 at 8:57 am #408358Katrine NielsenParticipantSo i wrote him and he replied hey kat don’t worry about it. He talked about how he also deals with anxiety and that i definitly should try a turkish restaurant and that i will love it. He was very understanding so that’s good.
There is a chance that he lost interest and he did say that he gets sick of people and places fast, but based on his behaviour which is exactly the same as me. He got too close i shut down i got closer to him the more awkward and nervous he be came. We act very similar so i think there is some truth to the whole if you are emotional unavailable you atract emotional unavailable people.
When he first started working here he wasn’t nervous around at all and neither was i. I started getting awkward when he asked me to go to the bar for the first time, same time i started getting extremely anxious because now i had feelings for him and didn’t want to risk being rejected.
And the first time we worked together after the date, he covered my break, a man asked me to join him which i did. He had his back turned to me the entire time, he has never done that before always faces front.
And my make colleague (who knows him) says that he got very loud as to indicate I’m here now, when he saw us talking.
I need to focus on the fact that I’m not crazy for thinking that he liked me, there’s just too many signs that he was interested and that he wasn’t like this with other women. Something i always makes sure to look out for, because you always treat the person you like different. My male colleague told me he saw a lot of similaries between the cute guys behaviour towards me and the way he was acting with his now girlfriend (she also works here)
I know that i myself kept bolting whrn guys got close even though i really liked them. That’s why I basically had to force myself to be with the guy earlier this year. I didn’t know how to deal with letting someone close, but Im glad i did because after a while it be came the best thing i have ever had. But it also took me a lot of self awareness that i can’t keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.
I definitly need to trust my gut feeling that he was interested and that I’m not crazy and read him wrong. Everybody is under the same impretion people that know him and you and Tee that doesn’t.
My other guy colleague said, that guy is all over the place (referring to his mental health) so i think i should try and not take this too personally. My worth us not determen by if a man is with me or not.
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