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October 11, 2016 at 8:07 pm #117866
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InactiveDear jess:
Indeed a messy situation over seven years. When you ask if you are in denial, do you mean in denial of the situation with your more recent boyfriend being hopeless?
If so, I don’t know if it is hopeless but the mess is still messy: the ex, the recent ex boyfriend, the childhood friend… you were not honest enough through the years, not with the ex and not with the recent boyfriend.
If I was you, I would become very honest, with myself, first and then with the others, if you have the chance. But first with yourself: why did you hide the ex from your bf? Why did you hide your bf from your ex?
Hiding: what is hidden needs to come out and see the light, I say.
anita (same person who answered your first thread, different account)
October 12, 2016 at 5:58 am #117889Kath
ParticipantI think you still might have a shot with your bf. But as anita said, you need to be very honest with yourself.
I think it’s important you don’t blame anyone else, but try to figure out how you contributed to this mess.I’m wondering why you clung (?) to a person who was not a good enough boyfriend to stay with you, nor a good enough friend to actually stay in your life and be a real friend? You seem to have known that you weren’t “just friends”…
And how can you keep a relationship of 7 years from a “friend”??I can understand that your bf has lost trust, even without your ex saying to him what he said. So you need to build that trust up again by being very honest about your mistakes, about what happened and about what you feel towards him. If your bf is not a total asshole he will give you the chance to tell your part of the story after he has worked through his initial anger.
You can’t know if being honest and open is enough to get back together and try again, but it is the first step, and necessary for clearing up this mess and forgiving/not fostering any more regrets.(You could maybe let him know that you want him to know your part of the story which is very different from the version he has been told, but that you understand his anger/confusion and respect his space, so that he should let you know when he feels ok to talk about things…)
I wish you the very best!
October 12, 2016 at 6:26 am #117896Deleted due to privacy infringment
ParticipantHi Anita,
I hid my ex from my boyfriend because I knew my boyfriend wouldn’t understand…. I didn’t hide my boyfriend, we were together for 3 years.. broke up with me and left me.. dated new guy… broke up with him and eventually got back together with the first ( 7 year boyfriend) …. My ex and i remained friends, but not friends that talked everyday or often…. It was a subject that was never brought up… I guess by omission I was hiding it… I also knew he HATED my bf for what he did to me ( he abandoned me ) so I just never felt comfortable enough telling him…
I want to be honest, honest with my love…. But its so hard when we aren’t speaking…. And denial in terms of – denial that its over, or that we can still work this out?
Thanks Anita!
October 12, 2016 at 6:31 am #117897Deleted due to privacy infringment
ParticipantHi Kath,
Yeah it is very messy indeed and I caused this mess… I clung to my ex as a friend because I have really bad attachment issues… I lost both parents before I was 10 and then every relative that cared for me after I lost as well… I’ve been to therapy over this and when I have someone in my life that is there for me through anything, I get very anxious about the friendship ending… I do this with my female friends too…. It’s a problem I am still actively working on..
And my ex and I weren’t on a daily, weekly speaking basis.. We would talk, then not, then talk, then not through the last 3 years… He was the guy I dated for a few months in-between my boyfriend of 7 years and I breaking up …. He helped me through a lot of darkness during this time and I didn’t want to hurt him by showing all he did for me was in vein….
As screwed up as this situation is, my heart is broken for hurting people… I genuinely do not like doing this AT ALL…. I’ve never hurt or broken up with anyone in my life and I’m 30…. I’m devastated over how badly I hurt my bf..
Thanks!
October 12, 2016 at 8:33 am #117907Anonymous
InactiveDear Jess:
This is my understanding: you hid your on-again off again friendship with your ex from your (now ex as well) bf because you knew your bf will disapprove. When you reconciled with your bf, you hid the reconciliation from your ex because you knew he will disapprove of the reconciliation.
Basically you were afraid of either one’s disapproval. You were afraid either one will abandon you as a result of disapproving of you. Because of your fear of abandonment, and having already been abandoned by your bf, you needed your ex in your life as a backup to future abandonment. Am I correct?
If I am correct, this would sum up your honest motivations in the mess. And maybe you can communicate it via a message to your more recent ex bf?
Back to checking: let me know if my understanding is correct, partially correct; then correct it and add to it?
anita
October 12, 2016 at 9:44 am #117918Kath
ParticipantDear Jess,
Ok, now I got it 😀
I just broke up with my bf after 6 years of a rollercoaster relationship, and it’s the first time I have to face being alone after about 10 years. Plus I had a very lonesome childhood and my first boyfriend died when i was 17. So I can really relate to your attachment issues and your fear of losing either of them.
But since the breakup I also learned a lot about healthy boundaries, and about making healthy decisions for myself.
I wonder whether you hid your rekindled relationship only because you didn’t want to hurt the guys feelings (which I get now, as you broke up with him although he was there for you when you got abandoned…?), or also because you couldn’t really justify getting back together with someone who has abandoned you… Did that ever get resolved, and can you be sure of that relationship now? Is there enough trust? I wonder whether you are neglecting your own truth somewhere in here.
Why does your (ex)-bf believe someone else more than you?I think you should figure out what is actually good for you, what you want, and then stand up for it… you have the right to have your own preferences and choices, and no honest friend will leave you for that.
Btw do you know about CoDA? (Codependents Anonymous?)
October 12, 2016 at 1:36 pm #117953Deleted due to privacy infringment
ParticipantAnita,
You are correct on every single aspect… yes!!
October 12, 2016 at 7:18 pm #117978Anonymous
GuestDear Jess:
Well, I feel empathy for you because I know fear and how powerful it is. If you explain this to your more recent boyfriend, he may feel empathy for you too.
If you explain this to him, and he is willing to help you with your abandonment anxiety; if you and him communicate about it regularly, then it can be a good, healthy relationship. I am sure he has his own anxieties, issues, challenges. And so you can help each other.
So potentially, it may work. I think in its core, this is not an issue of lack of character on your part, hiding each from another, but a matter of fear.
If you bring your issue to the light with him (opposite of hiding!) and ask for his help, and if he does help you and you express appreciation for his attention and help, that can give him a very good feeling, of being helpful, of making a difference (to you).
anita
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