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January 9, 2014 at 6:26 pm #48825
Eliza
ParticipantHey Simon,
I really feel for you, this sounds like a really tough and draining relationship and series of events you have been through in many ways. Though I also hear there have been some special times too, making it all the more difficult to move on as you have tried to save a relationship with a person precious to you who you invested so much of your heart and time in. It is heartbreaking and all the more difficult when you feel bad about yourself to begin with as you described in your background. I am sorry its been so hard for you, and I do relate by the way, I have a similar experience…anyhow, if its any use, I recommend a book called Necessary Endings by Cloud and Townsend. It has really helped me with a situation different to yours yet so similar in that I had someone use me and run me around with all sorts of complicated actions, pulling me into an intense love relationship and then rejecting me again and again and again…a little what it sounds like here, it has been so hard and the effect was I felt so terrible about myself many years afterwards – I truly relate to what you’re saying there. For me it has been three years since this man first proved himself unworthy of my trust by cheating on me, and I kept going back and trying to resolve things, only to be betrayed again and again by lies and more. My advice to you is that you cannot be friends with this person and that you really need to go and make friends with yourself and focus on learning to love yourself. Let yourself have fun and learn to be happy, get some counselling and allow yourself the self-care and love of only – and I mean ONLY – being around and engaging in activities that nurture your self-esteem and belief in love and life again. You were not intended to be a loser. You are worthy of love, respect, happiness and every good thing. But this person is getting in the way of that. Perhaps she has only mirrored your own beliefs about yourself to you…. My opinion based on my experience is – cut her off and take a good long hard look at yourself with her out of the picture. Find where you are self-loathing and get some help to get free of these destructive beliefs. You can be happy and you can find love with someone who will value you, treat you with respect and it won’t try to put a smoke screen in front of your face blaming and accusing you about being money-driven etc. Sounds like a distraction technique to get the attention off of herself to avoid having to change and to make the problem all your fault. Be kind to yourself and don’t stick around someone who makes you feel insecure and bad about yourself any longer. Love and peace to you.January 11, 2014 at 5:35 am #48908memm
ParticipantI’m 25 and never had a relationship so I know how you feel, your story almost sounds like something I could go through if I’m not careful.
But I am careful, I have standards and you do too, you shouldn’t forget them.
What happened in your life was tough, sure enough, but regardless what you need to work on is your own self-respect and you need to be able to see that in other people and avoid the ones that don’t have it.
You shouldn’t need to A) shower somebody with gifts to get their attention B) do everything for them while getting nothing in return C) allow yourself to be used just because you want something, no matter how badly. I know some part of you already knows all this, don’t be gullible because a girl “finally” took an “interest” in you. Do you really want a girl that takes everything from you just to return a little compassion? Face it, she’s not your type and you should have told her that the moment you thought something was off, trust your instincts.
You also need to realise there are a lot of nice people around, this girl and whomever she hangs out with are obviously NOT THOSE PEOPLE.
I think the problem is that after your bad social experiences, which I can relate to wholeheartedly, you just really badly wanted to be like the people that, let’s be frank; screwed you over. Have what they have, hang out with the people they hang out with, the girls they like. That’s not the right way to go about this, there are so many other types of people in the world.
I was lucky enough to have found a decent bunch of them and that really helped me pick myself up off the ground and I strongly suggest you go looking for the type of people YOU would want to hang around with, the same kind of nice, kind and easy going as yourself. The same kind of girls as well, the ones that have more going on, that are more emotionally mature, the ones that wouldn’t take advantage of somebody.
If you tell a girl that you like her and she ends the friendship there was hardly any friendship there to begin with, start with finding better people to be friends with and grow yourself as a person, figure out exactly what you will and will not tolerate from other people and stick to your principles.
You are already a fine human being, you know what pain really is which makes you a lot kinda and gentler than most, don’t sell yourself short and don’t bother with people who’s heart is a tiny black spot, in the end they’re only hurting themselves by lacking compassion.
Go find good people and the goodness within them and grow yourself as the person you are, not somebody else.
January 11, 2014 at 7:29 am #48911Simon
ParticipantThanks for your replies – I do appreciate them!
Eliza – yes, that’s exactly how it feels! Seems like you have been through a horrible experience too. It shakes you and makes you wonder if you can ever trust another person again. But you are right, it seems I must cut her from my life, which is very difficult but with everything that has happened, I guess I have no choice. It feels like she didn’t like what happened to her, but she wants to blame me for something rather than take all the responsibility and associates me with all the ‘mistakes’ she made at a time when she was not herself… it’s like I have to ‘take the fall’ so to speak. I’ll have a look for that book though – thanks for the recommendation!Memm – You are right, I do have standards, and when I feel something isn’t right, I do stand up – even if I’m made to feel like it is wrong. However, the odd thing is that we have known one another since late 2010, didn’t actually date until mid 2011, and made things official in mid 2012! So we’d known one another for a long time before making the commitment. Pre-relationship, she did do nice things for me, paid for things she said she would, and was very sweet, kind, caring and considerate – all values I admire. But when we made it official, that sort of changed. She wanted to ‘treat’ me to a long weekend in London for my birthday and assured me she had the money… but I ended up having to pay for almost everything. I didn’t think that was right. I still don’t. But I’m being made to feel I was ‘uncaring’ and that I didn’t understand.
She had a lot of values I admire – I know for a fact I would not have dated her if I was unsure in any way. I’m sure you feel the same way when I say that when you are 25+ and have yet to have any kind of a relationship, you can go one of two ways. Get into bad relationships by dating anyone who shows you attention – or value yourself and think that the first girl you have a relationship with will be someone spectacular. I believed in the latter.
Looking back, I fear she was a little naive – she had a lot of attention and, I think, gave guys false opinions she was interested in them. This ‘Guy’ who I thought was my friend was obsessed with her in my opinion. She just didn’t show herself any care and let him have his way… and didn’t think about me. And I know that says a lot about her ‘love’ for me.I’d love to find people who are like me, but I live in the middle of nowhere in a place where I feel nobody really gets me or likes what I like. She did – which was a pleasant surprise – but so many others just seem to want to go out and get drunk and I have absolutely no interest in doing that to my body.
I guess you could say I feel a bit “stuck”.January 11, 2014 at 11:11 am #48918memm
ParticipantYeah I’m not into drinking either, I’m not sure where this middle of nowhere of yours is but there are always people around that you can share things in common with. Also the people that you don’t have things in common with can sometimes be a lot more interesting. You don’t really need to be into drinking, I don’t feel anybody really cares about what you’re drinking while you chat with them. It also helps to look past “similar interests” and try to go more towards similar personalities, values etc… the basic core of the human being, cause I don’t think that really ever changes, while interests and other things are just on the surface. So when I say “like you” I mean a similar core, not just what you see on the surface, which means being a little more open minded, trusting your instincts and taking some chances.
The only downside to really sticking to principles and standards is that it’s easy to fall into the trap of being or coming across as arrogant, people hate that, it’s something to watch out for. So if anybody does for example make a comment about your lack of alcohol consumption just let them know you’re fine with alcohol in general you just don’t feel like it and I doubt anybody would pursue it any further.
And finally, when you think you finally have something amazing it’s easy to misjudge or look past faults, to the point where we really start blinding ourselves. It’s not always this way but it does happen and we have to look at things objectively from time to time or even specifically look for faults just to remind ourselves that nothing and nobody is perfect, that way we can make the best decisions.
It’s also obvious this girl has her own problems, unfortunately every one of us has to deal with our internal issues internally. You can only control yourself, not what other people do and in your case I think leaving the whole matter and concentrating on your own issues rather than hers would be a lot better. You did all you could now it’s time for her to deal with her own problems, in her own time. That doesn’t mean you give up your happiness, if you’re not happy you won’t make anyone else happy either.
January 11, 2014 at 2:49 pm #48937Barbara
ParticipantYou sound like a very kind and caring person Simon, and you will deffinitely meet another person again soon when you are ready. It sounds like you have learned a lot from this relationship about boundaries and about what your wants and needs are. Lessons i struggle with too ( i am currently in a relationship in which i struggle with our differing values etc and it is very challenging ) So i guess you will deffinitely bring these lessons with you now. It will be hard as you had lots of feelings for this girl, but as cliched as it is – time is a healer, and getting involved in your interests will really help too. Maybe there are things you can do in your area , even if its small etc. Personally sometimes i get stuck in a rut and isolate myself, but this isnt good for us. You will see a brighter outlook soon 🙂 it just takes a bit of time and then suddenly u will find you arent thinking and obsessing and you will feel lighter, it will just be easier suddenly. I remember that feeling when i split up with my ex a few years ago – you suddenly realise the pain is less and less, and then u will feel yourself again. You do deserve happiness and you had such a hard time in school etc that you deserve to be proud of yourself for getting through all that. Sending good wishes, and hoping you will feel lots better soon. Metta meditation is great, and be kind to yourself 🙂
Namaste
Barbs.January 11, 2014 at 5:33 pm #48940Katie
ParticipantDear Simon,
Life intended for you to be many things, but certainly not a “loser.” Being a loser means that you have already lost, but clearly you are still fighting. Relevant Cliche: You may have lost some battles, but you have not lost the war. Think long term here.
You seem to be a strong, gentle-hearted person that is fighting to have a decent life, yet you are constantly being ridiculed for being nice, being used for selflessly spending your money, and being downsized for caring. True friends do not treat one another they way your friends have treated you. It’s time to have perspective on your situation and realize that your on-off girlfriend is toxic to your life. TIme to move on.
January 13, 2014 at 11:40 am #49048Simon
ParticipantThanks for all your responses – I have learnt a lot and it’s nice to hear your positive comments. I have taken the brave step and told her I will have to move on without her. It hurts, and it’s hard as I really want to show love and care, but it’s hard when you don’t get it in return. I am also seriously considering quitting my job (I still work at the college she went to – and will return to at some stage, and that other guy is still around) and moving out into London. It’s something I have wanted to do for years and years, but have never had the courage to just go for it.
As a musician, it is always a risk as there are no guaranteed jobs out there, you have to keep searching for the ‘next job’ and hope you can pay the rent at the end of the week – as well as survive!But I am nearly 30… so… well, if I don’t take the risk, I will never know whether I can do it or not. Fingers crossed.
Time to move on from everything… yikes! =)
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