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June 15, 2015 at 5:11 pm #78292AnonymousGuest
Dear sweet Sweet:
i can see how you would need friends. You are so full of life, full of thoughts and emotions and you need people to socialize with, more than the time you have available with your husband. Girlfriends- that would be so nice for you. I like the way you are dealing with your husband not texting you, being less reactive, less obsessvie, not taking it personally, thinking it means he doesn’t love you enough.Regarding others having it worse… it reminds me what I read recently. 99% of the air molecules around you can be fresh air, but if there are only a few stinky molecules, that is enough to stink up the whole room. When we have a disatisfaction it can fill up our whole mind. It often does, human nature. it is not only you. Even the hungry people you are referring to, if they get all the food they need and want, most likely they will find a smaller reason to be disatisfied.
When you feel sad and lonely, please don’t be hard on yourself. Don’t add misery to the sadness by thinking: I shouldn’t feel this way. Let yourself feel whatever it is that you feel. What you feel doesn’t make you a good or bad person. What you do matters, can harm or help yourself and another. So feel what you feel, call it what it is, accept it, compassionately. If you had a child that was sad, would you tell the child: ‘You shouldn’t feel sad! You have no reason to feel sad- not when children elsewhere are hungry”- no, no- i hope you wouldn’t abuse a child like that. And i hope you don’t abuse yourself like that. be kind to yourself.
Later:
anitaJune 15, 2015 at 11:39 pm #78306SweetParticipantDear Anita,
Why do we get hurt, why sometimes life is just so good and suddenly you started feeling low. If someone does not behave the way you wanted them to… I do not want to waste my life thinking about such things. Suddenly your hormones reacts in some way and you start feeling low. I have got a job a month back its really very stressful. Is it because of that. That I am not been able to deal with the stress. Dont know how shape this up!!!
You must be thinking how stupid of me, I wrote something else in the morning and now such a variation. Dont know I am working on myself and I am very sure, I have already started my journey towards the peace. And I will make it up to that. Earlier if he used to miss on the messages, it used to be such a big issue for me. Even today he did back to back this thing, thats fine. Second time I felt something during the second time but thats fine. I am able to ignore and concentrate at myself. with bit frustration, it could be because of work.. The work pressure, dont know what it is..
I am desperately looking forward to hear from you Anita.Thanks for being there and I love you Anita.
June 16, 2015 at 12:05 am #78307SweetParticipantHey Anita,
I am looking forward to hear from you.
I love you Anita and thank you for being there.June 16, 2015 at 7:26 am #78317AnonymousGuestDear sweet Sweet:
You wrote that I may be thinking you are stupid for having felt great and later feeling not so great- not at all! I’ve been saying all along that you will be feeling lower, that feelings change, that distress will return. It is how it has to be, no other way, being human.This is an important point: I used to have this FANTASY that once I “get it” I will feel calm and peaceful FOREVER, that it will be a state of mind, peaceful and calm for the rest of my life, that I “got it.” I held on to this fantasy for years and I got DISAPPOINTED with myself every time my temporary calm and peaceful feelings were gone and distress returned. Every time that happened I felt like a failure, that I did NOT get it after all. Then I tried to “get it” again and so on and on.
If you are in that kind of pattern, please pay attention so you can exit that pattern: there is NO SUCH THING as calm/ peaceful forever after. No such thing is possible for any human. So when we expect the impossible we get disappointed again and again and instead of feeling more and more peaceful much of the time, we add MORE distress. We achieve the opposite of what we want.
What we can achieve as humans is MORE peace MORE of the time. Not always. Not every time we WANT to feel calm and peaceful.
I know the desire – it feels so very good, of course we want to always feel like that. We do not want distress. But we have to accept reality. By accepting reality and working with reality, not against it, we can achieve results that are closer to our fantastic desires: more peace, not always peace.
The key is ACCEPTANCE of whatever we fee. The moment you feel any kind of distress, accepting it means not thinking: Oh, no, here I go again. I failed. Now what do I do? How can I get back the peace of mind? What am I doing wrong? and obsess about the situation itself. The key is acceptance: oh, this is how I feel. Breathe into it. Focus on your breathing- that may calm you down some, not all the way, just some. Accept it- don’t resist, don’t fight it. Don’t add to it.
You are right: hormones do play a part of it, of the feeling of distress or calm, hormones and chemicals in the brain released by the neurons. Over time you can retrain your neurons to release less of the chemicals that cause distress. it is a combination of insight and skills. One insight to achieve is to accept the distress. Here are two quotes from tiny buddha: “Whatever the present moment, accept it, work with it, not against it. Freedom is accepting things as they are.” and the famous: “whatever we resist persists.”
Try it and let me know how you are doing, Sweet.
anitaJune 16, 2015 at 5:32 pm #78357SweetParticipantDearest Anita,
I love you for being there. Thank you, yes you are right, I need friends, I need female friends to hang out with. Ever since I have moved here, i do not have the kind of friends I am looking for and friendship takes it own times to blossom just like any other relationship… They all are my husband’s friends or respective wives.. I do not have any of my own.. Anyways that does not matter, its just clicking with someone.. Thank you Anita for being there. I have always been uncomfrotable trying new thing, new people. I normally feel comfortable in my shell. I do not prefer to change my taste that often. Sometimes, that what make it bit tough for me. Because may be i do not like changes. I get comfortable with what I have. This weekend my husband is going out with his friends for a sleep over, and I have got an invite from a couple who visited our house sometime back through one of our common friend, she is a new girl to me, today morning she has invited me for Saturday evening. I am thinking of taking it over, I already had an invite from one of my husband’s friends wife. As her husband is also going with my husband, she wants me to come over for sleep over. Do not know she has two babies and the new one is newly married. Do not know, I just wanna live life. I can go to the one wiht babies because my husband will be comfortable me being there. but i wanna go to that new place. Wanna have girly time. I love kids as well. Anyways lets see. I do minute things keeping him in mind that where will he be comfortable.. Anyways I really wanna live life. I do not want to put myself behind these thinking patterns. Life is much more than all this. I wanna learn and wanna have a healthy mindset. Yes you are so right, acceptance and patience are the two ingredients for the happy life. You are so right, as always its true – what we resists, persists. He knows i am not that outgoing and I m too much dependent on my husband for my happiness. If i would tell him in the evening that i would be going to see a new friend over weekend, it will be very surprising for him to accept. Because i am not that outgoing and I take my own time in gelling up with people. But ever since I have got married, I have this constant fear in my mind of losing my husband. due to which i dont feel like changing my same routine.. You might be thinking how insanely possessive I am.
Anyways also i have a question : As you said you can feel the way you want to, it just what we put in action , that’s what matters. But I wanna know one thing, if we think something, our thoughts gets the feel and the feeling get us into action. So if we continue to feel the way we want to, we might end up behaving in that way… So our feelings are talking now.. I am radiating the energy and vibes of what I am thinking. Isn’t there any way of holding yourself from not thinking and feeling that way…Thank you Anita for being there. You are a Blessing to me 🙂
Loads of love, hugs and kisses <3 🙂June 17, 2015 at 9:31 am #78385AnonymousGuestDear-Sweet Sweet:
You wrote that i may be thinking how insanely possessive you are. I did not think that at all. I did think: how much you and I have in common. I too hate changes, hate them with a passion. I have great difficulty with newness. That is what I was thinking. Isn’t it interesting how we project into others what we think? You thought that about yourself: ‘I am insanely possessive!’ and you thought that I was thinking that. It was an inaccurate projection, inaccurate ‘mind reading.’ So next time you think someone else is thinking something, ask yourself, if you will, was I (Sweet) thinking this? That way you know what it is that YOU are thinking. THen you can check with another: what were you thinking? Were you thinking this or that? And if the person is honest on the matter, he/she will tell you what he/she was thinking. This way you check evidence before you assume.I hope you visit overnight the woman you want to visit, and not the one with the babies because the one with the babies may be distracted, or more likely to have her mind elsewhere and not focus on you.
As to your question for me: is ther a way to not think and feel a certain way? Yes and no. No because a thought and feeling will hit you out of nowhere and you cannot control that. Fighting it will harm you. So whatever thought and whatever feeling comes to your awareness-let it be. Don’t fight. Don’t resist.
“Yes” to your question regarding what you do after you accept the thought and feeling. Do you think and think and think about the thought and feeling? Do you act on it? How? All these questions are a matter of your choice, control that with good insight and skills you will handle well.For example, you feel anxious about your husband’s sleep over. You feel fear that he will —- (whatever). You are worried, anxious, you feel uncomfortable. you hate feeling this way….
First: accept which means give your mind a BREAK and take a few long breaths, focus on your breath without thinking. Do something otherwise relaxing- a short walk? A distraction so to feel calmer.when you are ready, calmer, that is, think: i am worried that my husbadn—- and/ or I am afraid to be alone….you validate yourself. You say, okay, this is what i am feeling and it is okay to feel this way. I am afraid, poor me…(self empathy, feeling compassion for you as if you were looking at a small scared child, which you are inside).
Then you ask yourself: what do I DO about it?
Maybe at first you wanted to ask your husband questions about his sleepover, questions that you know will not bring you good results as they haven’t in the past, but you are afraid and upset and you need to do something…(take the breaths, distract, get CALMER) You decide not to ask the (stupid, as you called them before) questions. You decided to not AUTOMATICALLY or IMPULSIVELY REACT to your feelings. You are taking a break so that you can think clearly.
After the break, you think: what can I do? Keep your breathing regular and deep as you think. You can think: I am NOT going to ask him questions and every time i feel like asking, i will breathe. even though i feel like doing something, it doesn’t mean it’s good for me to do it, so I am not going to ask questions. Then you think, maybe I will talk to my husband and tell him: I am afraid to be alone but I will handle it. Maybe that way you will feel better by expressing what you honestly feel and at the same time let him know that you are responsible (not him, that will be unfair and a burden) for dealing with your problems. Let him know you don’t expect him to SOLVE your distress only to help by listening… empathetically and holding your hand, let’s say.
So maybe you decide to take the invitation for an overnight visit and even though it is scary, you will try it carefully, paying attention to what is going on, etc. etc.
In other words, you don’t automatically or impulsively react to your feelings. You feel them, accept, relax and think clearly about what to do and what not to do and then you follow with action and then evaluate: did it work for me? What did I learn about myself and about how to function more effectively now, and later.
I hope this is a good enough answer. Let me know if you want me to clarify or re-state anything here. You have a few days before the weekend, time to prepare how to operate to your best interest (and best interest of your relationship). Please think of a WIN-WIN solutions for your husband and you in everything.
anitaJune 17, 2015 at 4:24 pm #78399SweetParticipantHey Anita,
Thank you for writing to me. Yeah i got it. I will do deep breathing often. I messed up last night completely. It was not intentional but do not know how to take things now. Things and issues are always minute between us, but they are taking wrong shapes. They are going out of control now. Earlier he used to forget about the fights, now he sticks to all. We again had issue last night for nothing again over a small thing, I was eating and eating and he objected you have been eating since evenign and I felt bad on that.
I did not talk to him for 2 hours, I went off to sleep and i spoke to him around mid night and then he was so irritated . I did not start humbly i was so angry and irritated that he did not come to me to talk. Anyways do not know where the life is going. The issue was not that big but till today morning we had issues over that and he is not convinced and we are not talking to each other. Enough, I do not know how to put up with this mess. and I do not even want to lose this relation. I think its the stress at the new job.June 17, 2015 at 6:10 pm #78400AnonymousGuestSweet Sweet:
I am so sorry to read this. You mention the stress at your new job. Also you not having a supportive network of family and friends. No wonder things are difficult for you. You felt so good only a few days ago- but as the nature of life is… you will feel good again and bad again and good again… In all this I hope that over time you learn to live more skillfully as you have already started. And I hope your husband is supportive of you and that you learn, both of you, to communicate better, responsibly, respectfully. I am so sorry you are feeling badly and .. the eating and eating- I have been struggling with that for such a long time. Even today. I can’t tell you how DIFFICULT my healing process has been and is but much progress is done, never perfection, never “from now on perfectly.”Oh, Sweet, I do hope you feel better. I do hope so…I really do.
anitaJune 17, 2015 at 7:11 pm #78401SweetParticipantaaaahhh Thanks for writing back Anita(Blessing)
I love you so much, thanks for being there.. Yeah probably I am working hard on myself but yes i feel its all about the energy I feel so good in the morning but by the evening, I am drained so much, i walk back to home for about3.5 kms. I feel irritated sometimes because back in India I was at managerial level, here I am starting from the scratch. And my husband, I know he is always high on energy and me too but it just goes out of my hand. I do not feel like fighting, no one does. But it turns out in a different way. thank you Anita for answering me. I am forcing too hard probably. I do not want to use job as an excuse because thats my need for survival, I need to learn to strike out the balance. we both have different shifts, I have fixed working hours but my husband has rotational one, I should appreciate whatever time we get to spend together, moreover this entire weekend he is not going to be there.
Anita, yes i do not have friends, my husband mentioned that in our last night argument, that he does not have friend to call in. HE feels that I control his life, I said why donot you go to meet your friends, the saturday is his friend’s bachelor party, he is going to see them.
Anyways I love you Anita(blessing),Thank you for being there. At work I always listen to spiritual music, shabads or some good audio books just to stay calm. I know my husband has been short temper and hyper but eventually I have also become like that.
Thank you for being there Anita(blessing).
I love you 🙂
I should rather start calling you blessing
Thank you once again –June 18, 2015 at 10:28 am #78444AnonymousGuestDear Sweet:
I feel affection for you. It occured to me as I read your last post above, it being a stressful situation for you and your husband that it is better you don’t have children any time soon. I am sure you thought about it but it occured to me how terribly that would complicate things, making life even more difficult than it is now. I read some of your husband’s acquaintances have babies. I hope you do not get to see it as a solution. You indicated none of that so it is completely coming from me. Better not make things more difficult if you can control it, and not having children at this point can save SO MUCH additional trouble and stress.That is a lot of walking after work and I see your frustration with working on an entry level. But you and your husband are working for the benefit of the two of you, as a couple. You are in this life together. This is exciting, in a way, isn’t it? You are in it together, and it will be so much better if you learn to work together better, more effectively than you do already. To find ways that your presence in his life gives him energy, not take it away. And same about his presence in your life. There are certain Interpersonal Skills that can greatly help here, one can be called EAR: Empathy, Assertiveness, Respect. If you communicate with him in these three ways, it will work, as long as he does the same. Before you bring up a subject to him, ask yourself what do you want to achieve? What is your goal? What do you want to feel about him and what do you want him to feel about you? You want to do what is right for you but also what is right for him. Have a WIN – WIN interaction with him, the only kind that works for your benefit.
Even though you are stuck at the moment in an entry level job, at home, with your husband you can progress into high level interactions, advanced, evolved through experimenting and learning. this is also exciting (I find myself excited this morning, as I type this).
You thank me often. My interaction with you is a win- win interaction for me, a win-win online friendship, so thank you as well!
Later:
anitaJune 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm #78458SweetParticipantDear Blessing,
Really do not know what to write and what not to… I have a mixed feeling today, one part of me feeling good and one part of me not feeling good. Do not know what is it about. I am not a bad soul, then why do I have these challenges to face. Anyways there isn’t anything to worry about but still not feeling happy. One moment I am feeling to high and the other moment. I feel so bad and sad when my husband does not reply to my message, I am so much dependent on him, but I got your message to apply the EAR Concept. I have promised myself to be calm and positive all throughout my relation. Because listening is really important in the relation. I do listen, but i end up judging him more. While he is telling me something. I do not like changes, he has not changed though, but he is being alert now coz I can feel he is hurt by the things happen between both of us every now and then. Now he is just trying to stay away a bit so as not be hurt later on. because what is happening, we fight, we make up and then again after good lively days we again end up fighting. I do not even know what I am writing to you Blessing. I am just writing whatever is coming up in my mind. the problem with me is I want things to be alright next moment of the fight, i cannot put up with the changes and bitterness the fight leaves, and we stupid guys are fighting over such a petty issue, which has no value at all… Anyways let it be, I think he is hurt, because sometime back he deleted his so called online ex gf from his facebook, they had not been talking ever since we got married, but i mentioned her twice in our conversation and he deleted her because he does not want to have frictions between us because of something which does not exist between us anymore, but he did not like that either. Once a week, we have got one or the other issue to fight about which are not that big at all.
Blessing, to be honest I do not know what I am writing to you… I just do not know, I am writing what is coming in to my mind. Thank you Blessing for being there. I have got someone who can listen to all what i have in my mind, and in return I know I am not being judged. I can express openly what is running in my mind, I feel so good, that everyday I can pour my heart out my feelings out.. I am not a bad soul, people in our group here calls us love birds, but that charm is going away, I do not want to lose that … I do not know whether is going away or not, last saturday only we had our ME time, we spent it so beautifully, it was so romantic.. wE never had such time together before. Anyways thanks GOD for those beautiful memories. I do not know how to take these changes after the fight, anyways I hope all goes well. I will be able to have that affection and madness back in my relation.
Hope he will continue to feel, love is a beautiful feeling…
We used to thank alot to eachother for being in each other’s life and now I think he thinks other way.
He is scared because of the frequent fights we have been into.
for this moment, thanks for considering me as your friend.Thank you for being there. Thank you is really a small word, what you are doing to me in return.. You are answering everything, what i have in my mind, stupid weird thoughts.I love you Blessing.
Have a blessed day.
June 18, 2015 at 5:08 pm #78459AnonymousGuestDear, dear Sweet:
I am glad you just posted this and maybe you can read this soon after your post. The fights need to stop- it is harming you, it is harming him, it is harming the relationship. There is no benefit to those fights. You must learn to communicate in a way that does not lead to fighting. You can be honest about your feelings, express them to him without blaming him and without leading to a fight. This is what i meant by Interpersonal Skills. There IS a way to communicate EFFECTIVELY, and fighting is not a healthy communication.Maybe sometimes you feel that you are about to explode and you have to say something (that leads to a fight)- maybe you try real hard not to fight, not to say this or that and you succeed until you can’t take the distress anymore. Maybe in leading to a fight you are trying to help yourself out of your distress, maybe you are trying to MOVE him emotionally into realizing how much you hurt and how much you need his help- so your intentions are good in that you want to relieve your suffering and you want him to help you do so.
But fighting is going about it the ineffective way that brings you the exact opposite of what you want. Have to stop it!
How? Channel your feelings into EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION. Tell him – if the above is true, to the extent that it is true- tell him YOUR truth, how you feel about fighting, how much you want to stop your fights, that you see how cautious and unhappy he is about your fights and that you are miserable as well. Tell him you want to learn how to communicate better, in a non threatening way, without blaming, that the two of you can learn together how to do it.
For example, instead of saying: you make me mad when you … talk online with this woman (just an example) – or Why do you talk to her? Don’t you know what you are doing to me when you have her on your Facebook page? Don’t you care about me? Do you care about her more, etc. Instead of all this say: I don’t like it that you have her on your Facebook. I feel scared or angry and I don’t know if my concerns are valid or if I have the right to tell you to delete her. Can we talk about this? Can you help me figure out what to do…I want to do what is right not only for me but for you as well: I want a win-win relationship….
Of course you are not a bad soul, Sweet. This is why your name is Sweet, isn’t it? (ha ha) You are stressed and hurt and angry at different times and you are lonely and tired and unhappy about work… life is not easy for you- you have challenges. ANd you need good communication with him to overcome- you have very little without a good relationship with him.
Instead of trying to be less dependent on him (How can you be not dependent when he is all you have in the country you are in?) – be dependent but be honest about your feelings with him- tell him kindly, tell him honestly without blaming him, without giving him the job of making you happy (he can’t do it)- he can help him if you make it possible for both of you to help each other.
Turn to him, tell him you know change is not instant but you are wholeheartedly willing to find out how to help each other so both of you can make each other’s life better.
Bu the way, m en don’t like to be told what to do, so that girl on Facebook may mean nothing at all to him and still he wouldn’t like to be told to delete her or anything like that just so not to feel controlled and stripped of his manhood (as in following his woman’s orders).
These fights are bad, but you can change things together through wiser efforts. There are WAYS to communicate differently- it can be a learning experience, teaching each other how to do it.
anitaJune 18, 2015 at 5:42 pm #78461SweetParticipantDear Blessing, life is not going the way i want it to.
give me some advice , how to increase my energy level, how to keep him connected all the time, he used to be the one, who loves to be in touch all the time n now its changing gradually.
And why does that bother me too much, that he did not message me or something. FISH!!! How stupid of me, marriage is more that this… I am really stupid moving around these stupid things of sending messages or not. I do not know whether every couple has this issue or not. but i am just not liking it.
And i need to cut down or work on my expectationsJune 18, 2015 at 5:55 pm #78462SweetParticipantDear Blessing,
Thank you so much, you are the best. I will work on my communication skills. I know its the different work timings are causing this trouble.
Thank you once again for being there Blessing.I love you
June 19, 2015 at 7:18 am #78471AnonymousGuestDear Sweet
What if when you are calm, you read through our communication here in this forum and maybe take notes as things, hopefully become more clear. As you read your writings and mine look, calmly, at what is speaking to you as truth and calmly, think of what you can do that can be more effective than what you have been doing. You are panicking, are you, about the relationship getting worse. Maybe you want to quit your job and that is a pressure in your mind. You probably need clarity, clear thinking, priorotizing what you need in your life as it is. What you need to address, to work on. Then taking small steps toward what is most important.The distance you are experiencing in your relationship can most likely (I think) be reversed. It takes doing something different for that to happen. I wrote suggestions but it is up to you to pick what you want from what I wrote, find out answers that are already in you, achieve that calm you need etc.
This is the big weekend- I wonder how you will deal with him sleeping somewhere else (causes you distress, doesn’t it?) And did you decide if and where you are going to spend the weekend? I will check the forum this evening (in 12 hours or so) and Saturday and will write you back if I find your post. Take care of yourself.
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