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  • #116356
    Wendy
    Participant

    Hi all,

    Thank you for reading this.

    Over the last one year I have come to enjoy dancing a lot. I have had a lot of self-confidence issues, and dancing really helped me loosen up. I was thrilled to be invited by my teacher to perform at a public event.

    After the event I found out that my boyfriend has invited one of friends over who was “shocked” to see me “dance in public”. While the friend didn’t say anything bad outright, he acted a bit crazy telling his family as though it was something outrageous like a porn movie shoot.(He is from a super-conservative culture)

    What hurt me the most was that my boyfriend said nothing to his friend while all this was happening. He gave me some very sage advice on doing what I love regardless of what others say and telling me to let go of it because his friend has a miserable life and doesn’t know better (not denying the validity of his advice)

    What I would like to know is – am I overreacting? Is it wrong for me to expect him to stick up for me, no matter what wisdom dictates?

    Btw, my boyfriend is super-aggressive and outspoken otherwise if he perceives even the slightest threat or judgement to his way of life.

    Would love to hear from someone out here.

    Wendy

    #116374
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Wendy:

    This is my input from my understanding of the situation:

    1. Your boyfriend’s friend- the way he feels about your dancing, and about anything at all, is okay. We don’t choose our feelings, it is an automatic reaction, and therefore I don’t judge a person by his/ her feelings. Depending what the friend said- if he went on and on about the dancing, making sexual innuendos, your boyfriend should not have listened to that.

    2. If the friend told his family how he feels and you have no contact with his family, that is his business.

    3. But since the friends expressed his feelings to your boyfriend/ you, there are consequences- or should be consequences- him not being invited to any event where you may dance. I would insist on that (assuming you wouldn’t feel comfortable being watched by him!)

    4. The friend should not tell anyone who has contact with you or with your boyfriend about his feelings regarding your dancing. That is gossip and it is offensive. He should keep his feelings to himself or express them to people who know neither.

    anita

    #116400
    Julia
    Participant

    I’ve dealt with some of the same issues with a partner of over thirty years. It’s not about the dancing, its about “validation.” The fact that the partner doesn’t care enough about you or that they don’t care what people do or say about you. It can be very painful and humiliating. I have told my partner I expect “more” but don’t expect them to validate that either. Dance. Teach us ALL how to dance. Dance in the streets. Dance in the library. If your partner doesn’t want to dance with you… DANCE.

    It is horribly painful to realize that not everyone cares about your personal victories, especially the people that you think love you.

    It doesn’t matter.

    Take yourself out, buy a new pair of shoes, smile, and SHOUT – I DANCE.

    #116414
    pink24
    Participant

    Hi Wendy,

    I have somewhat of a different take on this–I think it absolutely does matter. We CHOOSE the people with whom to share our lives. And your boyfriend needs to understand that part of his responsibility as a partner is to respect and protect your passions. It isn’t easy to dance in public. Or publish a book. Or start a company. All of those take tremendous courage. And that does require the respect of our partners.

    Sure, his friend’s views are not his. But as a boyfriend his job to protect you. I disagree that dancing is the issue– it’s not. Nor is you caring what other people think. The issue is that what your boyfriend thinks and does DOES matter to you–as it should. And by not standing up for you, or setting his friend straight, he showed that he himself maybe doesn’t understand how important this event was to you. And that is a problem.

    Discuss where you are coming from with your bf. Maybe he’ll get it. Maybe he just needs to get used to you dancing. But if he doesn’t get it or continues to allow other people to behave disrespectfully, please don’t let thirty years go by and just suck it up. Voice your concern. Stand up for yourself. This isn’t about dancing, but about respect. We all deserve it–and ESPECIALLY from the people we choose to share our lives with.

    Good luck!
    Pink:)

    #116434
    LakshmiPC
    Participant

    Dear Wendy,
    If I were you,I will see the situation as OK.

    If I was your BF, and one of my friend has an issue with Dancing it is to him, Why should i start explain him,”oh no, you don’t understand../you see the point…/My GF likes it../… so on and so forth..”

    I just IGNORE.

    As long as me and my lover has no issues on Dancing, why should I even bother about others.
    coming to listening to them on this.Well, not all the times ,we have meaningful discussions.Sometimes,friends talk silly,non-sense,… 🙂
    In a situation like this,my thought process will be I know my friend is talking silly.I don’t need to make him understand that he is silly.But I will tell my GF ,to ignore silly talks.

    -Lakshmi

    #116439
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Wendy,

    Did you actually hear the friend say anything about your dancing, or you knew that from your boyfriend? I was wondering how exactly happened the situation.

    You have been invited by your teacher to perform, you should be proud of yourself! This means that you really have a talent! You should do this for your own pleasure. People say many things about stuff they don’t understand, or say stupid things when they don’t know how exactly to express themselves.

    I agree that your boyfriend should love and respect all your passions and never say anything bad about you in front of other people, and yes he should protect you when you are endangered and stand by you if you are being directly insulted. But he does not have to jump and defend you against the smallest remark either. People have a right to their own opinion.

    There is no way to control people and events and expect some higher instance to rule who should be going where or what they should or shouldn’t say. The more we learn to accept people and situations as they are, the better we will feel.

    You mention that you are working your self-confidence issue. One way is to not tie it to what people say about what you do.

    The fact that your boyfriend is touchy himself does not mean that he is not able to recognize this mistake in others. We all have our personal imperfections to work on and it may be extremely difficult to improve them even if we are crystal clear about them.

    Don’t create unnecessary drama with your boyfriend because of what another person said. Just be happy. 🙂

    #116452
    Julia
    Participant

    You have to decide if your boyfriends job is to protect you. And that isn’t always about respect. If you want to find your inner-hero and your own voice maybe you don’t need a protector. It’s a very hard lesson. I had to get over the fact that my “better half” is not supposed to spend his life defending me, and that doesn’t mean he doesn’t love me. He is not supposed to be codependent, keep me locked in my past issues, patronize me, or protect me when he doesn’t want to.

    All the confidence you want doesn’t come without having to face the fact that we all have “no” confidence. We all want everyone to like us. We all want hero’s and protectors.

    We aren’t 3 and crossing the street. Growing up requires emotionally healthy relationships where we don’t don’t always get to “call out” the jerk who refuses to give us the respect we deserve.

    I was stuck on an island in the Everglades for five days with my “better half.” I asked him if he would save me if the bad guys, alligators, or mosquitoes ate me alive. He said he didn’t know if could save me. He didn’t know if he could die for me… but he would try to do what he could.

    Your better half did what he could, or thought he could, for whatever reason he chose.

    We all have to choose if we still want to be with them. We got off the island. We lived. I learned I have to defend my life, it is MY duty, My responsibility, MY LIFE.

    He’s not a prince in shining armor, I’m not some chick on a horse in a deodorant commercial.

    He doesn’t respect me all the time, but he does love me. When I get tired of standing up for myself, he drives and I eat ice cream in the backseat of the car. Humble and tired.

    I am old. I wish I would’ve loved him more before I got hurt and now all we do is argue about what I can’t do and I go to therapy to try to put my mental state back together like a jigsaw puzzle.

    I am glad I “earned” his respect by not demanding his over the years. We wouldn’t still be together had I demanded that of both of us. You “both” pay a price for that kind of ritualized relationship. It’s not sustainable and there’s not enough love in the world to keep you together.

    Relationships are based on forgiveness, truth, and caring.

    You threw out a post about how horrible it is to feel betrayed when someone doesn’t stand up for you. Sometimes men are just too damn simple. Sometimes they just want to go watch football and eat pretzels. If his error was more than that — then you have to ask him if he’d die for you on an island in the Everglades.

    And for all the folks I’m infuriating out there, I understand. It’s why i hardly ever reply to forum posts. And I promise to remain silent henceforth.

    #116547
    Wendy
    Participant

    Thank you, all of you kind souls who have taken the time to read and respond.

    Each one of your replies have led me to introspect and arrive at the root of the problem.

    Anita, Julia, Lakshmi, Cherryblossom – To clarify, I know I cannot control anyone’s opinions and I am completely ok with that.
    Everyone’s opinion depends on their experience in life. Pink24, I overheard it in a big group gathering, so it wasn’t said directly to my face.
    Julia – I completely agree with you, I am not expecting my boyfriend to be my knight-in-armour. Men are simple, like you said. 🙂 No matter what other inputs you receive, I want to tell you that I appreciate your wisdom on ‘ritualized’ relationships.

    Having said that – in this situation, I am also not “allowed” to defend myself without causing a huge rift or perhaps, even a break-up. I just wish my boyfriend would say a simple – “It is rude to speak of my girlfriend that way”, instead of laughing along with him. If he cannot do that, I feel he shouldn’t restrict me from saying it to his friend. Would it change his friend’s *values* or belief? Very likely not, definitely not overnight.
    I cannot comment on his friend’s life choices without my boyfriend springing to his defence, so I never do that.
    Somehow, this incident has made me feel like my boyfriend are not so much a team.

    pink24 – You’re right, I cannot tie my lack of self-confidence issue to this. I need to be able to follow my passion no matter what. Julia, thank you for the inspiring message on dancing ! I will treasure it forever.

    Anita – I have read seen you kind response to every post on tinybuddha, I think you are a wonderful person for caring so much.
    Your advice on requesting my boyfriend not to invite his friend on the next event is MOST helpful – at least until I am mentally tough enough to take whatever comes my way.

    Thank you everyone, once again.

    Blessings,
    Wendy

    #116557
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Wendy:

    You are welcome and thank you for your kind acknowledgment of my participation here.

    You provided a couple more details in your last post: that you overhead about your bf’s friend’s negatively criticism of you dancing “in a big group gathering,” and that your boyfriend was “laughing along with him.”

    This is unfortunate- indeed your boyfriend did not stick up for you (the title of your thread). Not only did he not stick up for you, he sided with his friend who acted against you by gossiping about your dancing (to a group of people).

    There is incongruence, lack of integrity in your boyfriend’s behavior: on one hand he encouraged you to do what you love “regardless of what others say” and is ” super-aggressive and outspoken otherwise if he perceives even the slightest threat or judgement to his way of life” (original post) and on the other hand he sides with a person who is in affect threatening your way of life.

    Hope you post again.

    anita

    #116565
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Dear Wendy,

    It would be very interesting to find out how things turned out later on. I was curious right after reading your initial post about what exactly happened there, something was missing.

    I only decided to post as oddly enough I just ran upon this quote on facebook: “Dancing is the act of leaving the world behind and sculpting your own in the process.” Beautiful quote.

    Then when I thought about your story and had this interesting association: “Off with their heads!” ~ Queen of hearts, Alice in wonderland.

    #116746
    Wendy
    Participant

    Hi again Anita,

    My boyfriend and I had a loooong talk and he said it was all in good humour. This friend of his has been around from childhood so apparently, they share a no-holds-barred camaraderie. I am a bit uncomfortable with building up a similar relationship with his friend so quickly because I’ve only just met him.
    So he has agreed that he will not invite his friend until I am more confident or his attitude changes.

    Cherryblossom – So the thing I have not mentioned so far is that the form of dancing I have fallen in love with is – Belly dancing !! There ! I’ve said it out loud. I have no idea why it interests me so much. 🙂 I am still a little shy telling people about this 🙂

    #116749
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Wendy:

    I like the resolution that your boyfriend’s friend will not be invited to future events where you dance. Belly dancing- I am familiar with it and I liked watching it when I had the chance. I even tried to dance myself but did not have the, well, didn’t have what it took to produce those wave-like, coordinated moves required.

    anita

    #116755
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Wendy,

    Wow, what a lively form of artistic expression! Kudos! Curiously the more shy people are, the more repressed passion the’re hiding, and the bravest forms of expressions attract them.

    It was interesting story yours as I myself found passion in (guess what) Swing dancing as a constructive outlet during a difficult period of time. Similar remarks from peers – so are you now a swinger? 🙂

    Any dance is by nature an expression of our passion, music too, otherwise it would be boring. But there’s no place to compare with striptease… And as for most people, poor us with repressed sexuality. I bet those guys are no saints themselves. Do you remember in school boys teasing girls they like? In my opinion most of them don’t change with age in terms of expressing their admirations. Take it as a compliment and boost your confidence! Boys don’t think like our grandmothers and any comparison between erotics and you equals a compliment. Let your boyfriend worry about all the attention and curiosity from others towards you! Also, it’s very rare a boy directly put in words any admiration and tell you as he would’t like your confidence over him to raise too high. More likely, he would brag in front of their friends.

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