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June 13, 2017 at 5:35 am #152896SmileyParticipant
We met online 3 months prior and we’re living in neighboring states. Both of us had come past a break only a few months ago at that time (I was entirely out of it because in my case, the guy was a cheat, but he was/is still wounded because his ex left him for another guy) and we were/are seeking a meaningful, long-term relationship. From day one, we were great because we had too much in common (extroverted, social, good at making new friends, helping people and making them feel good expecting little to nothing in return – but he really overdoes the ‘helping’ thing, teasing each other, laughing – I’m way more cheerful than he can ever be, risk-taking, exploring new things and places, etc.). We also had our strong differences. He’s a strong Christian (only later i came to know that he’s highly biased and even insults people from other religions) and I’m a simple atheist who believes and being true and following my conscience (I respect all religions equally even if I don’t believe in ‘God’).
The Problems I faced in 3 months:
– He used to flirt way too much, but every time I confronted (either politely or slightly annoyed), he’d say “we’re spiritually incompatible”, “we’re friends”, “labels are worldly; true connections need no such label”, etc., but over time the flirting only increased more than I can handle!
– His hot and cold behavior: One day, he’d act like I’m the center of his universe; another day, he’d act like “it’s all casual; I’m talking to you because I’m bored/wanting to kill time/till I find someone better”; another day, I’d be invisible to him! When I’d realize that I’m being too available and step back, his radar would alert him immediately and he’ll be back, wanting to make sure I don’t move away.
– He showed too many signs of love/interest at least, like saying “I love you”, “You’re so lovable!”, “I want to hug you”, “Talking to you gives me an adrenaline rush”, and when we met the last time, he was super romantic, holding my hand in his and gently rubbing it for a long time with a big flirtatious smile and glow on his face and unwilling to let go my hand in public, expressing jealousy every time I even mention another man’s name (he’d find some silly excuse for why that guy, whoever he is, isn’t a good match for me, without even knowing that guy’s details), sharing a lot of personal stuff with me, etc. He even asked me 4 or 5 times whether I’d accompany him in the near future for two 2-month long trips to two different countries! But still, after all this, he doesn’t want a label.
– Soon I realized (when I confronted him or when he’d open up to me over phone) that I was one more woman in his list; he behaves the same way with committed and even married women, say about 3 others that I’ve heard of, when the two are away from others! I was so disappointed! (But he’d still do everything to make sure I stayed). No, he’s not perverted. In fact, he claims to be a virgin male because of his strong religious beliefs and his female friends laugh at him for this!
– He helped me a lot, when I didn’t ask for it, so when I asked him for some official help i needed, he willingly cooperated. I felt like I owed him something big but there was no way I could return his favor. It was only recently that he, out of the blue, asked me for a huge amount (knowing I had it in my account, but still I feel it’s not exactly my money; it’s my family’s money), and when i had to say “no”, he tried to convince me with his silver tongue, and the more I had to say “no”, the worse I began feeling… (Guilt trips!) – He’s quite manipulative, and if you see him, you’ll believe he’s a real gentleman. But I feel he throws the bait by helping you, complimenting you, ‘wooing’ you first, only to ‘use’ you later…
– We had a lot of arguments because of his over helping nature (not always bad-intentioned); he’d make little promises like he’ll call me at some time, but when I keep waiting, he’d be out there helping some other female friend (or male friends that he hasn’t talked of?) of his! He’d break promises too often.
– Once I asked him that his future life partner would definitely not like his excessive helping nature (like serving or even slaving some female friend’s family and frequently taking them all out for movies or dinner simply because the family feels low/depressed), so what will he do after marriage? He easily said that he’d help others without his wife’s knowledge in future! Whoa! I didn’t want to be that woman!
After all this, we’ve had some severe arguments over religion (he’d lose his calm and make nasty remarks about other religions and call me stupid or other names for not believing in god while I’d calmly say that he’s not fair), his breaking promises often (he’d come back and apologize like a hurt puppy – manipulative, yes – and I have to accept him), hot and cold, treating me like an option, flirting with me while calling me a friend, bringing up his ex often, I was really feeling exhausted with the ups and downs… Finally a couple of days ago, he called me to ask for money again, I politely said I was helpless, when he tried to press more, I continued to say no… The next day I called him to ask if he got the money from elsewhere, he told me an hour long self-pity story… I genuinely felt bad for him and tried to cheer him up by making him listen to good, melodious music, but he chose to listen only to sad songs… We had a small argument, and he just hung up on me. I called again to just verify (by this time, I was furious) if it was he or just an accident that ended the call while I was talking, and he admitted that he cut the call. I blocked all his numbers over that little thing (or was it my pain of holding on for so long that made me do it?). He called the next morning and realized that I’d blocked his calls, so he texted me “you blocked me, right?”. I didn’t respond. I feel so uncared for, walked over, used (he’d even told me once that he was thinking of whether he should marry that female friend of his, before and after which he heavily flirted with me!!!)… I hate to hurt anyone, that’s my weak spot even if I’m quite a strong and tough woman! I’m thinking of whether I should send him a mail/message saying how much all this hurts me and it’s for his good and mine that we stay totally out of touch (because that way of ending seems more human and cordial), but if I do that, he’ll use that opportunity to come back and again manipulate me and use me, I believe! What’s the right/best thing to do?
I feel numb, bad. Help me, please? :/
June 13, 2017 at 8:34 am #152930AnonymousGuestDear Smiley:
* Regarding loaning him money- a bad idea because you wrote that he breaks his promises. It is reasonable to expect that he is likely to break a promise to return money given. Also, since the money considered is your family’s money, not entirely yours, it will be dishonest to give it away without your family’s consent.
Otherwise, I support your decision to place this man and your three month relationship with him in the past and keep it there. And I support your thinking about not availing yourself further for his manipulative behavior. However you can arrange to put him in your past and not avail yourself to further guilt-tripping/ manipulation on his part- please do so.
You wrote: “I hate to hurt anyone, thatâs my weak spot”- your primary responsibility is not to hurt yourself. It is unwise to allow harm to yourself so not to hurt the feelings of a person who brings you harm/ is likely to continue to bring you harm.
Exiting the relationship with him now will prevent you from experiencing more harm to come.
anita
June 13, 2017 at 10:11 am #152964SmileyParticipantHey, Anita, thank you for that! The fact that a fellow woman from somewhere understands feels like a warm hug this moment. đ
“Exiting the relationship with him now will prevent you from experiencing more harm to come.” – very true because with each new day, his flirtation/coming close to me emotionally & physically (even if we live in neighboring states and meet only occasionally) only increase, and so does the confusion of what I mean to him!
I can imagine him now – sad, laughing at himself, hating life in general, channelizing his aggression elsewhere (even if he doesn’t drink or smoke or do drugs or have sex), sitting alone in his room and either talking to somebody else the negative philosophies of life or shutting out from the whole world (like how he disconnected my call the last time wanting to be left alone), … And when he comes out of this frustration, when people enquire him about me, he’d sarcastically/philosophically say, “Oh! Some people… I help them so much, but they just leave me and go for no reason …” (Playing the victim, which he’s really good at, making others think that he’s the wounded gentleman and those who left him are heartless, because that’s how he talks to me about others.)
Have I really done the right thing by just blocking him, my friend? (I’ve been feeling a mix of both good and bad, good when rational and bad when emotional!)
June 13, 2017 at 11:39 am #152984AnonymousGuestDear Smiley:
Yes, you did the right thing, to do-no-harm to yourself is the right thing.
You observed correctly: when you want to know what a person says about you when you are not present, listen to the common theme in what they repeatedly say about others to you when they are not present.
I think that the reason you doubt yourself about blocking him being the right thing is that you feel empathy for him and hate to think he is hurting. Correct? If so, (and following what you wrote earlier:âI hate to hurt anyone, thatâs my weak spotâ), this is an important opportunity for you to do what is right for you in the future regardless of this “weak spot”. In the future, there will be other people who will harm you, or their behavior would be likely to harm you later. You will need then to withdraw from these people. Because of your weak spot (appropriately referred to as weak, because it takes away your strength), you will feel guilty, not wanting to hurt them, and you will be drawn to put yourself in harmful situations so not to hurt others.
This is an opportunity to do just that: withdraw from a harmful person who promises to be more harmful as time progresses. Avoid hurting others as an action. But as a reaction to them hurting you, withdrawing from them is the right thing to do.
When a person already established a behavior that is harmful to you, as he has, when you withdraw from him, blocking him in this case, you are reacting, and appropriately reacting.
If you blocked a person who was good to you, that would be an action on your part that is hurtful. When you block a person that is bad for you, harmful, that is an understandable, healthy reaction.
Do you see and agree with the difference?
anita
June 13, 2017 at 12:51 pm #153002SmileyParticipantHey, thanks much, Anita! He hardly ever openly/aggressively hurt me (except for his losing his calm over religion-biased arguments a few times). All long he was only passively hurting me – by being a gentleman on the surface, being ‘a very kind man in spite of all the harm others have done to him’ in his mind, being manipulative, confused, attention-seeking and validation-seeking, commitment-phobic guy in real.
So stupid thoughts like “How could you be so rude to him when he didn’t really intend to hurt you? See, he always told you that he wanted nothing more than friendship from you, so expecting more and falling for him is your fault, why punish him?” etc. keep popping up. But you’re right. Whatever it is, intentional or semi-intentional or totally unintentional, I can’t let this continue. This is a great opportunity to practice putting the self first when it comes to harmful people, yes. I’ll work on it. Your moral support means a lot! đ
June 13, 2017 at 8:34 pm #153062AnonymousGuestDear Smiley:
“only passively hurting” you is… hurting you (the word hurting is there still, the verb!)
“intentional or semi-intentional or totally unintentional” hurting someone is… hurting someone. Same thing.
I will go for the extreme to make my point: of all the murderers in prison, many passively murdered someone (poisoning can be considered a … passive act of murder) and many didn’t intend to kill… maybe just for a split second.
Yet the dead person, the victim is … dead nonetheless.
Hope you feel at peace with blocking him.
anita
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