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  • #180403
    Anonymous
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    Dear Kaelina:

    Your thinking here reads reasonable to me, logical. I was wondering, what has been his relationship with your best friend, why he called her and felt comfortable talking to her? If he was afraid of letting you know of his doubts and fears but felt comfortable communicating to her, it leads me to think they had previous communication where he feltĀ  comfortable?

    * Will be back in 18 hours or so, to read your reply, if you do reply. I hope other members comment on your thread as well.

    anita

    #180405
    Kaelina
    Participant

    They are friends and she’s happily married. I think it’s because she knows me so well and he knows she’s been with me through the breakup.Ā  She didn’t know how he was feeling at all which is why she blew up at him. He sent me this message at 10pm last night so my best friends snapping at him seemed to do something.

    “I just want to let you know that I am deeply sorry about the decision I made. I had come to realize that I could not fully commit to you and your daughter which wasn’t fair to either of you.. Especially her. Over two year’s I have seen her less than 10 times. Mostly my fault. I will own up to that. Even though as much fun as we had it wasn’t right. I feel that I am not going to reliable at this time in my life and with where things might end up in the future for me. I still don’t know what’s going to happen yet but some big changes are coming. I have absolutely no hostility or regret/whatever towards you. I still think of you as a good friend.”

    My response: “The one thing that really gets me right now is that you told me to never shut you out and keeping this from me for so long…you did just that. And it makes me wonder if anything you said during that time had any truth behind It, like telling me that you loved us…I hope I’m wrong… Everything that’s happening…it could have/can be dealt with it.

    Being committed doesn’t mean you need to be there 100% of the time to be committed 100% of the time. There are tons of families that do that; one person works out of town or they work opposite shifts and they are happy. It’s the times they do spend together that means the most.

    I know you don’t see her a lot. With work schedules and her being at her dads on the weekend, it was expected. But you have no idea how much she cherishes the time you do spend with her. She still talks about you, still wants you here. So do I.

    What are these big changes that are coming?

    And I know nothing I say will change things but this is how I feel…I have no hate or regret either. I do still want to be friends, good friends because we do have fun together.”

     

    My response might sound like I’m trying to convince him to stay but that’s not the case. I just wanted to get out what I’ve been thinking and feeling for the past month. I understand not feeling reliable because of the future but no one knows what the future will hold. No one knows what the next 10 minutes will hold. I guess if anything for now continuing to grow a friendship is better than nothing. Even though it’s hard because I have lost my best friend (him) from the relationship ending. I still have hopes that maybe somewhere down the line things will work out but I feel stupid for thinking and hoping for that to happen. I’ve experienced heartbreak before but this is on a different level.

    #180449
    Anonymous
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    Dear Kaelina:

    I re-read your original post as well as your second post attentively. These areĀ  myĀ  thoughts: As you wished and hoped and patiently waited for him (“Am I stupid for wishing /hoping that things work out? AmĀ  I stupid for wanting to wait and be patient with him andĀ  see how this works…”), you did not engage in an honest, true, close communication with him. Reads to me that you kept the relationship flat, being very rational butĀ  not emotional.

    I think that this lackingĀ  communication, lacking closeness was the ongoing featureĀ  of this relationship for a longĀ  time, maybeĀ  from the beginning.

    The conversation your friend had with him was noneĀ  for her to have. ItĀ  was for you to have. It wasĀ  not her place to blow up and chew him out. Seems like she expressed… your emotions while your policy was to subdue and keep your emotions hidden.

    You wrote: “During the last month I have done a whole lot of self-reflecting andĀ  realized that I haven’t been true to myself”- reads like not beingĀ  true to yourself isĀ  connected to that lack of honest, close communication with him.

    I hope toĀ  receive your reply, would like to communicate about thisĀ  further.

    anita

     

     

    #180479
    Kaelina
    Participant

    I thought our communication was pretty good. We talked a lot and if something was bothering us we usually talked about it. He kept this from me for 9 months and didn’t give a hint that there was something wrong (still saying he loved me, whether that’s true or not, still sending me housing listings, etc). I wanted to talk about the break up a week later but he said he wasn’t ready. Even in the message he sent me on Saturday (after me saying again I’d like to talk about this) he said he didn’t really feel like talking. And he’s not an emotional person.
    Yes she did blow up and sort of said what I wanted to because he never gave me a chance to express how I was feeling. And I’ve kept my distance because I don’t want him to feel like I’m being pushy. The only one at work that knows about this is the receptionist (an older married lady). I explained what he texted to me on Saturday and she said it sounds like he isn’t sure what he wants in life and is trying to figure it out alone. Which I get.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 6 months ago by Kaelina.
    #180483
    Anonymous
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    Dear Kaelina:

    Can you restate how you find out that he has been considering a breakup for nine months?

    I wonder, is he still communicating with your best friend (who is also his friend)? Did the two of them meet through you, her being your friend first?

    anita

    #180507
    Kaelina
    Participant

    I guess saying he called was the bad wording. They talked through Facebook messenger and she screen shot and sent me what he wrote, with him saying he has been feeling this way for the past nine months.

    He’s not communicating with her or anyone really right now (and I can assure you that there isn’t anything going on between them). He used to post a lot on Facebook but since the breakup he’s really cut back to maybe 2 posts a day if that. The three of us all met in middle school from being in the same class together.

    #180515
    Anonymous
    Guest

    DearĀ  Kaelina:

    I did not suspect that there was something goingĀ  on between the two of them,Ā  aĀ  romantic or such going-on, not at all. When a third party isĀ  involved in the first and second party’s relationship thereĀ  isĀ  a thirdĀ  person’s projections that complicate things, that was myĀ  thinking.

    Will beĀ  back to theĀ  computer in about 17 hours. If you wouldĀ  like, you canĀ  add to your thread any information regarding his behavior with you during these nine moths. Will re-read your posts and readĀ  any new posts you might add tomorrow and reply then. I hope other members will reply by then.

    anita

    #180529
    Kaelina
    Participant

    Hmm never thought about it that way. But good point.

    His behavior during these 9 months was the same as it was when we first got together which is why I never saw this coming. He had a very good poker face. Still showing me housing listings, still talking about the future, etc. Example on October 29th he joined my daughter and I for a walk, then went to my mom’s house to carve pumpkins, then all of us went out for dinner. When we were leaving he kissed me, said I love you and text me when you get home. Everything seemed and felt good. Every night after that our texts were the same “good night, love you, etc” So nothing he did was out of character for him for me to suspect that something was wrong. Then come November 6th, he called it off.

    #180591
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Kaelina:

    “HeĀ  had a very good poker face” and “he’sĀ  not an emotional person”, you wrote. Nothing in the last nine months is his behavior was different from before.

    This is my understanding, a possibility: there is a wholeĀ  lot about him that you don’t know because he didn’tĀ  share with you, and probably not with anyone, including those “big changes” in his “I still don’t know what’s going to happen yet but some big changes are coming” comment. You asked him about those big changes but he didn’t answer you, did he.

    A whole lot he didn’t share throughout the time you knew him. He is in the habit of not sharing, of not being spontaneous, as if living on automation, going along, getting along, sayingĀ  andĀ  doing whatĀ  is expected,Ā  yet having his own thoughts andĀ  feelings that don’t fit with the expected, keeping those to himself.

    For example, he figured it is expected of a good man to consider a young mother and her child as “a package deal”, so he told you so right at the beginning of the relationship. But he didn’t feel thatĀ  way.

    HeĀ  also communicated you recently: “I have absolutely no hostility or regret whatsoever towards you”-Ā  I don’t believe it is true. I think he is angry and has been angry for a while, hiding it under that poker face. I think he has been resentful about “having to” go along with the relationship, “having to” comply with your expectations, looking at the house listing.

    He didn’t have to, of course. I think he felt like he had to, aĀ  pattern of thinking and behaving since his childhood. If he didn’tĀ  feel angry at you, he wouldn’t have thought of stating to you that he is not angry at you.

    Post again with your thoughts and feelings, if you’d like.

    anita

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