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    simrem
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    We have been married for 35 years. He hardly showed any affection or gave any affirmation, many a times when I ask him if he loves me his answer ‘ you should know how I feel’. Feeling neglected and not valued on 4 occasions I had threatened to leave. He pleaded with me to stay, apologizing that he find it difficult to express his feelings or show his love. That if I love him I should accept him the way he is. For the sake of my two daughters, slowly I accepted his ways. I was working full time, took up yoga and walks to fill that empty void. Basically, he was around but never ‘present’, never cared to connect with us at emotional level. Our marriage was on auto pilot. Yes…I tried many different approaches, avenues to work on our relationship, however he was happy the way things were.

    In 2011, I came across intimate messages on his mobile phone to a girl (who is the same age as my younger daughter), he addresses her as a daughter, she calls him dad. Words such as-love you, miss you, hugs and kisses, precious, sweetheart, my life etc were some of words used. When confronted he was annoyed and snapped that she was a colleague, he treated her like a daughter. God this is a part I do not wish to relive, the pain, grief, shock, trauma and depression…..I could not function and for almost a year, my life was a roller coaster. He stood firm, saying he did nothing wrong, I was blowing things up. I manage to contact the girl, she apologies saying she was under the impression I was aware of the relationship. According to her this has been going on for 3 years and he has been visiting her too. By than rumours of their relationship was spreading, the girl left for a job in Dubai.

    We tried to work on our relationship with a counselor but he refuse to cooperate. Despite my repeated requests for him to give me a commitment, he refused saying he feels responsible for her. During this period we made two overseas trips, the first was to Germany, on the 2nd day he insist I send her an email informing her regarding our trip. The 2nd trip to Uk was via Dubai, he tried to pressure me to meet up with her. In these 3 years, he did about everything to maintain the relationship, pestering me to accept and acknowledge her. He kept the relationship secret in the first place, he did not care to understand or see my pain. Despite assuring me he was not contacting her, he was still trying all means to reach her.

    In early 2013, I gave him an ultimatum, he agreed to work on our relationship. I told him, he has to call the counselor and make the move if he really is serious in wanting to mend and work on our relationship. He did nothing till today, despite the fact that I gave him the number of the counselor and 3 months time limit.
    Instead of leaving the relationship physically he simply checked out emotionally. He has stopped investing in our marriage long time back and is content to deny the existence of any issues. He treated her as someone precious while I was taken for granted, as if I was not important. I am slowly moving on.

    It is a painful journey, but slowly I am healing. Sadly, we are 2 people staying in the same house like strangers. I tried talking to my younger daughter, but oddly the first time she met with a serious accident, the second time she broke up with her partner. I wish I knew what is going in his head. He seem so contented that is frustrating. Any advice what I action can I take. Thanks Simrem

    #52982
    Chad
    Participant

    Simrem,

    No one on here can really tell you what you need to do. I want to first say, you sound like you have put up with a lot of manipulation by this man. Im ashamed myself by reading this, because I can see some his own behavior towards you with how I treated my ex, not quite to the level your husband is engaged in though.

    Im a big fan of “acceptance” of peoples flaws and faults. However we as good partners should also be working to minimize how they negatively affect the relationship. I dont believe in cart blanch acceptance that has to be carried on one side. Sounds like he’s expecting you do carry that weight all alone.

    Im concerned with this side relationship, and think your statement “He treated her as someone precious while I was taken for granted, as if I was not important. I am slowly moving on.” hits the nail right on the head. I think at this point you need to start asking yourself what is it that you deserve out of a marriage. I admire your courage and commitment to working on things. However, you know was well as I do, it takes two people who really want it. I will leave the judgement of whether he has shown the desire to do his part up to you. He is his own person and you will never be able to change his mind, I see you have tried to be encouraging and hopeful, but you cant carry that for both of you. If he’s not in it, than he needs to be out, be man enough to make that call and let you go on your way.

    Have you been going to counseling by yourself? I think you should pose some of these question to an LMFT. There are a lot of your own things going that may be making you stay in this unhealthy dynamic. I think getting to the bottom of them, may free you from what is keeping you stuck. Getting some sense of empowerment to be selfish for a minute, stand up for your boundaries and absolutely demand better for your life, with or without him in it.

    I dont have many married friends, so giving advice to someone when there is a marriage and children involved isnt something I understand the unique complications of. Ultimately, you will never be any good for those children if you arent being good to yourself. If this man’s influence in your life has you ragged and at the end of their rope, perhaps look at it from that point of view?

    When we reach a crossroads, the decision to go left or right, and not being able to see over the rise to know what lay ahead and considering all we have that we are carrying with us can be scary. You dont trust yourself to make the correct choice, so you seek validation to ease the burden of this decision thus you post here! However sometimes you reach a point where anywhere is better than where you are at, so you begin to walk regardless. Ultimately it is your own choice and one that needs to be made by you. I probably was no help at all, but hopefully what I have said maybe started some wheels turning, that werent in motion before.

    #52988
    April
    Participant

    I’m really sorry what you are going through. Maybe you’ll better off without him.

    #53251
    simrem
    Participant

    Thank You Chad and April for your support and advise. This is a decision I have to make. After all these years of trying to be a good mother and wife, is time I take charge of my needs. As all my friends and counselor are females to whom I have turn for support, it is good to get a male point of view on my issue.
    My daughters are grown up, however it is definitely going to affect them, as my husband is not close to them. This is as good as replacing them. He is in denial that he did anything wrong.
    I appreciate your advise and will make a decision as I know what I want. You are right, I was seeking validation, when I posted my issue here.
    Thank you for sharing.

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