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July 28, 2017 at 4:19 pm #160838PearceHawkParticipant
Hi Tiny Buddha Gurus…
I am at a huge loss in trying to help a couple that are friends of mine. My prediction is that I’m going to have to back away and watch it go down. But in the meantime it would be helpful if someone can at least help me understand a healthier way to look at it.
He’s American she is 2nd gen Korean so right there is a cultural divide. They are not married yet but plan to be within a year. The complaints he has seem to becoming more frequent. The complaints he has are not really specific. They are cultural in that, she is expecting more and more of him to pretty much abandon his American upbringing and adhere to herKorean lifestyle, they way they do things, without fault. He does things the way he always has, like putting different foods in the fridge differently, even before they met, and they work. When he does something quite benign, she tells him that’s not how it’s done in Korea at which point it escalates into a fight. He’ll say something like, :I was born in America, I am an American, this is how I was taught to do things, and they have always worked.” A terrible fight to witness. One perfect example is recently she got a phone bill in the mail, which was her brother’s bill. He’s 35. I don’t know why it came to their address, but her brother is in Paris going to school. The phone bill was an overdue amount of $22.02. No big deal. So immediately she paid it. Granted it is a small bill. But my friend asked her why she is paying her brother’s bills, which was not the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd time. Her answer was , “We’re family. It’s what we do in Korea.” This answer was not delivered in a very pleasant way at all. He asked her when does he (the brother) start taking responsibility himself, that we have our own bills to pay? A very fair question. Needless to say she escalated a fair question into a very hostile one sided argument. Again not a pretty picture to have witnessed. I recall visiting them last summer when her brother came to visit from Paris. During the 3 weeks he was here he came and went, ate up the food in the fridge, stayed up late with the tv blaring, etc. When he left, she gave him $2000.00. No thank you, no I appreciate it, no I’ll pay you back. Nothing. She said she was struggling. My friend told me that their cultural differences are destroying their relationship and because of this ongoing he doubts they will get married.
Any helpful words that I can offer him? Any helpful words for me to understand what is going on without getting agro?
Pearce
July 29, 2017 at 5:53 am #160886AnonymousGuestDear Pearce:
I would tell the friend to not marry her and to end the relationship, that her my-way-or-the-highway relationship MO is incongruent with a healthy, loving relationship.
If he chooses to continue the relationship and even to marry her, he will be losing the right- as far as I can see- to complain to you about her MO.
I hope he does the right thing for himself.
anita
July 29, 2017 at 7:00 am #160898PearceHawkParticipantAnita thank you for your advice. After searching every corner of my mind to find something helpful for my long time friend, I am going to offer your advice. Her her my-way-or-the-highway way of “managing”their relationship has gotten worse not only trough the years, but just about on a every 3 month basis. I recalled, very recently, telling him that her personality is dominated by a controlling, manipulative behavior. It wasn’t this way in the beginning, at least that anyone could see. Perhaps it was some demon that had been caged waiting to be released. She has gone so far as to tell him to see his friends, myself included, when it is convenient for her, such as a day of shopping. I shall talk with him today and hopefully light that candle in that dark room of which he lives. I’ll let you know what happens. If you wish to know.
Enjoy a day of happiness
Pearce
July 29, 2017 at 7:37 am #160910AnonymousGuestDear Pearce:
I doubt it’s been a caged demon. Maybe she presented a bit of her-way and he submitted to that bit of her-way, then she presented more of her-way and he submitted yet again. Feeling more comfortable, she presented more and more of her-way and he gave in. I can see how it is working for her, her payoff: she gets her way.
Question is, how is it working for him? For any behavior that seems self defeating, there is a payoff to the person doing it. Somehow, your friend finds… comfort (?) in submitting to her.
Yes, I do wish to know what happens.
anita
July 29, 2017 at 8:25 am #160920PearceHawkParticipantAnita,
Update…hot off the press. WE INTERRUPT TINY BUDDHA TO BRING YOU THIS IS BREAKING NEWS… I called my buddy, Ian. He picked up the phone and said “hello.” I said “Ian, it’s Pearce.” The first things out of his mouth were, “Pearce I broke up with her and I feel so happy!” I felt like saying, “Thank Anita.” but I didn’t 🙂
He said he should have done it a long time ago but didn’t know why he didn’t. I offered to into just keep looking forward, that is where you see good things coming. It was hard for me to watch my buddy of many years put up with that. But I couldn’t say anything until now. Thank you for your help Anita. Much gratitude to you as always.
Pearce
July 29, 2017 at 8:36 am #160926AnonymousGuestDear Pearce:
You are welcome, although I doubt I had anything to do with your friend’s good decision. Now it is time to be there for him more than before, to offer him to talk to you anytime he needs to. He made a good choice, but he will have to maintain it, the ending of the relationship. Following his initial happiness, he may yet experience a down time, a longing… depending on the payoff I mentioned and how lonely he may feel without a relationship.
As I wrote to you a few moments ago on the other thread, it is delightful to get a feel of excited and elated Pearce!
anita
July 29, 2017 at 8:40 am #160930PearceHawkParticipantAnita..it is true..Life Is Good
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