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May 7, 2017 at 6:31 am #148323
Craig
ParticipantPoppyxo,
For the love of all that is right and holy and divine (I’m exaggerating for effect), if you want to see this guy, then just SAY SO and discuss making plans WITH him. What’s up with all the calculating?
Craig
May 7, 2017 at 7:14 am #148331Poppyxo
ParticipantIt’s not like I haven’t been forward in that I like him etc I’m not playing hard to get. It’s just in the past I have approached the guy to make the plans about where to go and what to do and sometimes I’ve been in positions where actually the guy doesn’t like me in terms of relationship material and is only after one thing or I get into a relationship with a guy who has minimal investment because I’m doing all the work. I don’t want to get into that trap again – it’s finding the middle ground, by not being too guarded.
Make sense?
May 7, 2017 at 7:26 am #148335Craig
ParticipantI think I see. You’re trying to figure out how not to repeat behaviors that didn’t work out very well for you, particularly if you end up thinking you’ve done all the work. An analogy I heard once was that a relationship is like a boat. If only one person is rowing, then the boat will go in circles. It takes two, and it seems that you’re trying to discern when/if you’re rowing too much. Did I get that?
May 7, 2017 at 7:52 am #148339Poppyxo
ParticipantYes, that’s right. I don’t want to come off cold and allow him to think he has to make all the plans, but I don’t want to row the boat too much and make all the decisions.
May 7, 2017 at 8:17 am #148349Anonymous
GuestDear Poppyxo:
You wrote: “before I have steered and sped things up with a guy without him actually having to do anything”- that was extreme, you doing ALL the work while he did none. And so, like you wrote, it is about “finding the middle ground”.
It is also about not micro-managing the plans for a future date.
What I would do, if I was you, would be to let him know I am interested in a future date, soon enough. Sure, I wouldn’t bombard him with messages regarding this, but respond to him with your honest interest. Do not appear disinterested or neutral (that would be dishonest, playing games, as you called it).
On the other hand, I wouldn’t suggest where to go, when, how (micro- manage), so to communicate with him that seeing him again, spending more time with him, is what is important to you, not the location, the events you attend (not at this point anyway, not at the very start of a relationship).
anita
May 7, 2017 at 8:31 am #148351Poppyxo
ParticipantThank you – he has text and asked about our next date, so I responded saying of course, where shall we go? To which we bounced ideas off each other and he suggested a place that we have now confirmed for a second date. I think it’s just getting out of the ‘normal’ or should I say my ‘normal’ unhealthy ways and into new healthier ways of not being ‘in control’ all the time. I guess this will only come with practice 🙂
May 7, 2017 at 8:36 am #148353Craig
ParticipantThe great thing is that you are aware of a behavior pattern you would like to change. With you working on your side, and interacting with a guy who’s willing to do his part, you may be able to make the change you want fairly easily. Your awareness of yourself makes it possible to not reflexively repeat behaviors in yourself that you’re trying to change.
May 7, 2017 at 9:14 am #148357Poppyxo
ParticipantYes, I’m glad I have this awareness, I think maybe I’m trying to gain validation when I already have the answers inside. Sometimes its just nice to bounce these things off people and hear the responses. 10 years in relationships that suck is not good and I think sometimes I worry more about potential outcomes instead of just trusting myself.
May 7, 2017 at 9:23 am #148359Craig
ParticipantI think seeking validation as you’re trying to learn a new behavior (unlearn an old one) is pretty wise. My experience is that it takes practice, repetition, and checking with others how it looks, to see and make progress. Thanks for sharing this part of your growth, and good luck!!
May 8, 2017 at 4:23 am #148451Poppyxo
ParticipantThanks both of you.
May 8, 2017 at 7:04 am #148467Anonymous
GuestYou are welcome, Poppyxo. Anytime!
anita
May 8, 2017 at 3:16 pm #148547Craig
ParticipantYou’re welcome!
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