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February 16, 2016 at 11:15 am #96197WisdomParticipant
i just feel like a fool. like i should know better. i know i’m not the best, the coolest or the prettiest, yet i want him so badly. i feel like i should know that maybe he’d like someone better.
February 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm #96205AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
You wrote to me about him that he is not interested in a relationship and that he is disgusted by the concept of love. I suppose you learned that about him from your online communication with him. Are you interested in a relationship with him? If so, are you hoping to change his mind from not being interested in a relationship?
Figure out first what it is that you want: a relationship with him? What kind?
Once you have a clear enough picture of what you want, you can proceed and I will try to help you in the process. So, waiting for your answer.
anita
February 16, 2016 at 2:33 pm #96216WisdomParticipanti’ve gotten that from my observation, but we’ve never had a conversation about it haha!
i would like to be his girlfriend. i would love to, but i also want to be his friend, which i feel are two whole different things. i just don’t know how i do that though. just for him to get it.
February 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm #96220AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
You can let him know with words you type, just like you type on this thread. You express yourself clearly to me so I know you can be clear with anyone.
You can type it for him to read: “I like you very much and I want to be your friend. Maybe your girlfriend but first and foremost your friend.” This is an example. You write it your way, not too long, short enough and clear. You can even send me a first draft if you’d like input on it. Then Final Draft and hit that Send button.
It is an option that will give you (and I am not an optimistic person) 5% chances of success, that is that he will respond and indicate he wants to be your friend, at the least, and follow with more intimate and frequent communication with you. 5% which is 5 more than the zero percents you have now.
If you don’t communicate with him, you can keep waiting. If you do communicate and succeed, a new door is open for you, a possibility to grow and experience more of life. If he does not respond or does not respond positively, you stop waiting.
Remember my stories about my long time crush in high school, Robert? There is nothing good that I got from not having him walk me home that evening and nothing good by focusing on my nose that whole date. And all those years and decades that I was too afraid to live, there was no benefit to it. I learned nothing. I was just frozen in fear. No living, no learning. Nothing but a waste of life, youth.
If you are at all considering sending him a clear, direct message- you must be prepared some for a possible no response or a rejection. You can prepare yourself. But if you do send him a clear message, you will be honoring yourself. You will feel the exhilaration of victory, victory over the fear.
And I will be here for you, if you honor yourself with the assertion I am suggesting, here for you to express your anxiety and worry and hurt, whatever you feel.
But the victory of doing what you were too afraid to do before: what can top that?
anita
February 16, 2016 at 6:17 pm #96228WisdomParticipanti wish i could just send him something like that, but i think that if he were to either be oblivious to it or reject me, it would totally rip my heart apart. i can’t seem to get ready for that, especially since i feel mostly that he’s kinda not supposed to hurt my feelings if i were to send him that because i believe that he’s (probably) my soulmate. i don’t know if i’ve been god given confirmation, but i think that the way my heart feels during concentration on the situation is enough for me to believe it.
it’s easier said than done for sure, but i think one day, hopefully soon, i’ll be able to do something like that. i’m taking your story into so much consideration, but actually going and telling him, it’d be so awkward i think. just because i don’t feel like we have a close enough connection for me to talk to him about things like this. it’d almost be like a stranger confessing their love for you, even though we’re not complete strangers. we just haven’t gotten to know each other.
February 16, 2016 at 7:04 pm #96241AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
I understand. Maybe you can get to know each other better online? Ask a small question here and there? Like I wrote before, I wouldn’t want you to do something when you may not be able to handle the results. If you took my suggestion in my last post and he rejected you, I will not be there physically with you to hold your hand and I may not even be online every moment of the despair you will feel. This is why it is important that you will initiate such a thing only if you are prepared for the possible rejection. Not before. And maybe not at all- your choice.
When I give you a suggestion like the one I have, I am not invested, wishing and hoping you will take it. Reason is that I respect your choices very much, your independent thinking, your ideas, understandings.
Till later-
anitaFebruary 19, 2016 at 6:17 pm #96540AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
I hope you are well. It’s been three days almost since I sent you the last post above. I always wanted you to know that I am interested in talking with you more and more, no time limit. Please write to me anytime, no matter how long of a break from our communication that you take. I will leave it up to you and will post to you only following a post by you.
Take Care:
anita
February 20, 2016 at 9:18 am #96564WisdomParticipanti haven’t had much to say lately anita, but a recap of how i’ve been feeling (especially yesterday): worthless.
probably the worst feeling i’ve had lately. i just felt almost emotionally immobile. like the life was sucked out of me. i was just drained. i didn’t feel pretty and i felt like i didn’t and wouldn’t amount to anything. today i’d say i probably only feel a notch better because i dressed up a little bit to avoid feeling that depressed again. other than that i am at a point of “it is what it is”. i keep procrastinating a paper that’s probably due on monday haha. i just don’t really have the energy to want to do it.
but i hope you are okay too anita. the whole time i was just at a loss for words and checked back everyday in case you posted anything. how are you?
February 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #96567AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
I don’t like chasing people, so next time you do not reply to a post I write to you, I will not initiate the re-starting of our communication. So when I post to you and you don’t answer, I will understand that you choose to not communicate with me and I will wait for as long as it takes you to reply. And.. if you choose to not reply to me at all, then I will let it be.
I understand that you feel worthless. It is amazing to me how strong and powerful our emotions are. When you feel worthless, that feeling of depression about the idea that you are worthless.. that is a devastating emotion, isn’t it? It is a terrible experience, that which follows the belief that you are worthless. I know that feeling only too well.
And yet, I learned that a belief as strong as: “I am worthless” can be completely untrue, no matter how convincing the emotion,the feeling.
It is like when you are sick with fever and you are sweating and feeling so hot even though the temperature in the room you are in is low, it is cold in the room but you feel so hot, with fever. What is true in that circumstance? Is the room really hot or you just feel hot?
Same here: you feel you are worthless (like you feel hot with fever) but the room is cold (you are worthy!)
anita
February 20, 2016 at 10:39 am #96574WisdomParticipantbut what would you think about this: someone could give out all the love they wanted to. all the love they ever had, yet only get either nothing or a bad thing in return everytime. is the heart really a thing of worth or would you say that love around us is just void?
do you think it matters if we give love? what’s the point if we don’t recieve a good or true attitude in return? what are we benefitting?
and this is a question i had yesterday as well too, but i really had to think on it. because i really do believe that love is essential and love is always right, but in anyone and almost everyone else, i don’t see it. i feel like everyone is just out for themselves (which is probably true for the most part) or their motive is to hurt people. i don’t really see the point in giving or showing love when it’ll just go by ignored. and when i fet ignored or hurt, it makes me wonder if i really am worth something. i don’t see why people with good looks are somehow better and more worthy of fine things when there are people that actually show true beauty and they only get hurt.
February 20, 2016 at 10:40 am #96575WisdomParticipantthat may be where the illusion of am i hot or is the room hot comes in. it could be both cases at the same time, or the illusion is something that has become a belief.
February 20, 2016 at 12:06 pm #96580AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
I strongly believe you are correct in your observation. Indeed there is very little love in the world and this is why there is so much misery. Problem is you are born loving and lovable AND you get hurt being loving. You get rejected, ignored. It hurts terribly. And you get discouraged, understandably. Thing is being loving is in our nature, we need to love and be loved. And it is also true that many, many people are not loving, not anymore.
So we look for the people capable of loving us and stay away from those who can’t or won’t.
I too thought I was worthless, not worthy of being loved. I didn’t understand that I wasn’t loved not because I wasn’t worthy of being loved but because … there is so little of it in the world.
Will be back in a few hours. Take care of yourself!
anita
February 20, 2016 at 3:10 pm #96591WisdomParticipantno problem anita and you take care of yourself too!
the answer might be obvious to this one, but do you think that material items can sometimes make us happy? especially when we don’t have friends? do you think that doing something for ourselves, doing something to make us happy will actually make us happy? and if not, what is it that someone can do to obtain some form of fun, confidence and happiness?
February 20, 2016 at 7:26 pm #96600AnonymousGuestDear Wisdom:
Material items can make us happy for a short time. Maybe. Sometimes. Doing something for ourselves, like taking a hot bath? That can be relaxing and relaxing is good for us. Doing something to make us happy, like the time you contacted the guy online, simply because you did something you were afraid to do before- that did make you happy! For a short time.
There is no such thing as living “happily ever after.” Best you, Wisdom, accept your life just like it is now. All of it, every bit of it just as it is. Be okay with it even if this is all that it will ever be.
Then look at your life tomorrow, look around, pay attention to an opportunity to do something different, to do something that is a bit scary to do, to reach out for something you want when before you were too afraid. This way you build confidence. Every time you practice courage, acting in spite of fear, you build confidence. You start thinking: hey, I can do this! I can!
Like the train that could… find a little challenge and take it on, one challenge a day, no matter how small, but take one every single day and make it happen. Then write me a post every day letting me know what challenge you took on that day, tomorrow and every day after.
Starting tomorrow, a challenge per day…?
anita
February 20, 2016 at 7:59 pm #96605WisdomParticipantthat actually sounds pretty exciting! i think i can try and do that. hopefully i can find something to do each day or tomorrow at least. i’m pretty much a homebody and nothing usually goes on even once i get outside, but i think i can definitely try! and if i don’t necessarily overcome a fear maybe breaking my usual cycle will count for something and i can tell you about that.
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