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  • #106890
    Janine
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    Hello there,

    I am working on transitioning in life. I am turning eighteen in a few days. I have lived with both my parents until this point. Over my lifetime, I have collected a lot of unconscious anger towards my mother, which has eaten away at me. I do not feel love for my mother and cannot recall ever feeling secure around her. She tells me she has always been loving to me and that we were close when I was younger, but I started rejecting her love. And I have been bitter and cruel towards her since. Being around her makes me tense and fearful. It was confusing for me as a child, and is still hard for me to grasp. Why would a child reject a source of unconditional love, if it is truly a warm embrace? Recently she has told me that I have broken her heart and it is up to me to forgive her in order to receive her “love” again. But I feel no interest in receiving her love or being in any form of relationship with her. Some people have told me that this is just typical teenage rebellion and one day it’ll have faded away.. I’d rather that be all it is, then there is less to figure out. Underneath my anger there is a core feeling of emptiness. Trying to interact with her leaves me feeling extremely defensive and I end up making cruel statements. She could make a simple statement and instantly I feel attacked by her, and then I go into fight mode.The dynamic gets complicated when my dad enters the picture because he is codependent on her and cannot separate her feelings from his own. So if I insult her, he starts doing all he can to hurt my feelings. I love my dad and do not doubt his love for me, but his lifeline is my mother… So if anything threatens her, it becomes something for him to attack. And then during his rampages, my mom stands back and says to me, “Look at what you do to your father. Look at how much you torment him. YOU cause this.” And then she goes into her hero role, and “saves” him from me. This has left me frustrated and ashamed time and time again. Today there was an incident where he was throwing things around and screaming in the kitchen because of something I had done, and my mom decided that it was time for me to go upstairs because of what I was causing.. So she grabbed both of my arms and started yanking me towards the stairs. And then my dad joined her. My instinct of course was to start yelling for them to let go and to fight back in any way.. I ended up digging my nails into my mom’s arm until she let go.. which caused her to bleed. Afterward she then took pictures and started sending them through her phone (I am not sure who she sent them to or if I should be concerned about that). I feel like I am evil and undeserving of ever being loved. I am having a hard time coping with the fact I physically hurt another living being.

    #106893
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Janine:

    Your mother rejected you, attacked you with accusations again and again and again until you withdrew from her, stopped feeling loving feelings for her. When something or someone hurts us again and again, we withdraw, and that is what you did.

    Because she accused you of being evil so many times, because you were the child and she was the mother, you believed her. In reality, you were born good and you are good. Reality is she wrongly accuses you of ..doing this to your father and whatever she accuses you of. Reality is you are being mistreated by her (and by your father).

    You did nothing wrong to your mother or your father. They did something- lots of things- wrong to you.

    Hope you move out soon and maybe have little to no contact with your mother, at least.

    Post again, please.

    anita

    #106912
    Janine
    Participant

    Hello anita,

    I am grateful for your response. I feel like you understand, which is comforting to me. I am always afraid that people will not believe that I have been hurt, and I have spent time trying to somehow prove that my feelings are real and I am not just crazy. I have gone to many extremes and because of that, was not an easy child to deal with.. But I feel I was basically in this messy guessing game of “How do I receive love?”, which led me to have collected many unproductive behaviors along the way. I go in circles about this being all my fault and thinking that I will always be evil and unlovable. At the current moment I cannot explain how I feel though, things are shifting.

    Thank you.

    #106915
    Maria_L
    Participant

    Hello Janine,

    You kind of described my relation to my mother in short… Looking from outside, as a stranger, she didn’t do anything wrong. We lost our father when I was 13, and since then she tried to take care of me and my sister, provide for us, clean the house, cook meals. From outside she was ‘the perfect’ parent, the victim, the strong woman raising 2 kids in tough times. But behind closed doors, there was constant screaming, blaming, constant negative energy. She comes from abusive alcoholic family, and she never knew happiness or love, so she was unable to channel it to us. She loved being the victim, loved the sympathy from the environment. No one believed me that she was an addict from pain killers and sedatives, that she smokes in the house though I begged her not to (my dad died from cancer, and I was worried about mine and my sister health, cancer genes can be passed on). And yes, at times she’d throw objects at me. I can’t remember how many times I stayed for days at a friends’ house, and later at my boyfriend’s.She wouldn’t even call to check where I am. No one from the family tried to help me cause how can you attack a grieving widow who dedicated her life to her kids (she never re-married or dated anyone after my father’s death). I can only say she was more interested in the ‘glory’, the sympathy and the attention from the environment than in men or the mental well being of her kids .

    I didn’t really follow what are the reasons for your anger toward your mother, but I can totally relate to her constantly feeling like ‘the victim’,the good mum syndrome, the guilt trap, the support from your father that goes to her. I know you are teenager and your hormones make you even more sensitive in the situation, and part of you knows this, that’s why you feel guilt. But, I don’t know.. I still don’t have kids, but maybe the first step for you is to stop feeling guilty. Because we’ve all been teenagers, our future children will be teenagers, those are sensitive years, and girls your age shouldn’t be judged with the same criteria as someone who is 28 for example. If I were a parent, i think I’d expect my children to act impulsive, to be sensitive, to make mistakes at that time. I think that at that time parents should be the ones who make the ‘forgiving’, not the other way round.

    And if she is ‘technically’ good mother, I think as well you do your best to be good daughter too. I was the best student in my class, never misbehaved, never stayed late, never did drugs, alcohol or smoked, never asked for expensive clothes, never did incidents of any kind. i was not ones praised for anything, she’d just rather yell for hours for a banal thing like ‘you didn’t wash the dishes 5 minutes after you finished your meal’. However innocent it seems, this can be quite damaging.

    One of the most difficult lessons we have to learn in life is that our parents are just.. people, common mortals who also make mistakes. That they might have had best intentions, but it doesn’t mean that they always knew what’s best. We can only pray that we’ll get that part better with our children, and won’t allow trivial things or problems to build a wall of negative energy between us, that we will hear them when they have problem and help instead of attacking them. And we’d know where to draw the line. One of he toughest thing to do is to break free from our parents’ shadow, acknowledge that we have our own path to follow, and new horizons to reach. Forgive them for not doing their best, forgive us cause we expected for them to be perfect just because they were our parents. I know that it seems impossible for you to realize this at this point, but once you gain your independence, your distance, your objectivity, it will be much easier to get rid of that anger. Don’t feel guilty now because of it, I am afraid that it is only the time and the natural development of events that will get you there…Just be patient, and believe in yourself.

    In the mean time, enjoy some of the perks of teenage life, like spending time with your friends, dreaming about the future, falling in love, listening to good music… These things have special wonderful taste when you are 18… I am sure you have many reasons to be happy and smile.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 6 months ago by Maria_L.
    #106926
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Janine:

    You wrote that you became a child not easy to deal with. I want to explain to you my view of Cause and Effect. You being difficult to deal with is the Effect, not the Cause. The Cause is: your parents mistreating you. The effect is: the behaviors you developed as a result of being abused by your parents.

    Please notice I used the word abused. You were and are abused by your parents, both of them. And as a result of this abuse, you are suffering. Your suffering is none of your fault, none of your responsibility and all your parents’ fault and their responsibility.

    Unfortunately, although they are fully responsible for your troubles in thinking, feeling and behaving, they will not correct the damage they already caused you. The solution is not in reaching out or waiting for your parents to fix you.

    Your parents are the Problem, not the Solution.

    I strongly believe you will need to live away from that house, away from your abusive mother and father and attend psychotherapy with a competent, caring psychotherapist so to heal from the damage caused by your parents.

    I know you doubt your thoughts and your feelings, being confused about cause and effect, believing wrongly, often enough, that you are the problem, from birth or soon after, a bad child. Sometimes you see the truth, as part of you knows the truth but often enough another part of you believes you caused this. In psychotherapy, if it is competent therapy, your thinking will become clearer and clearer over time until you see the truth and believe in it, consistently: “Oh, I see”- you will tell yourself; “oh, I see now: I am good. I was always good. There is nothing wrong with me after all!” And there will be great relief and lifting off a heavy burden that you are carrying.

    Life can be good for you, outside that place where you live, following a difficult but totally worth is healing process. Please do post here anytime and I will respond to you every time, for as long as you are willing.

    anita

    #106979
    Janine
    Participant

    Hi again anita,

    I struggle to accept that I was abused. It was hard for me to even type that in a sentence, “I was abused”.. because growing up I had all of material needs met, and my parents did go to great lengths to find me doctors and therapy for when I began struggling with health, mentally and physically. And they say they did these things out of love. It is hard to explain how it felt.. because I did not feel loved.. I felt like I was being dragged around as a problem, yet a trophy for my mother because she could play hero AND victim.. “Oh, my daughter suffers so much, it is so hard for the family.. but I have loved her and have been her only friend.” She says now that I do not appreciate or recognize the things she has done for me and that she hopes one day I will realize how well she has treated me and will come back to her. We are a well off family, live in a nice area, I had the toys I wanted and clothes to wear. What do I have to be complaining about? I would love to talk about this more with you, Anita. Today I spent time reading a few of your other posts and replies here on Tiny Buddha, and I found that I really appreciate your perspective.

    #106980
    Janine
    Participant

    Also, hello Maria!

    I am glad you shared part of your story with me, it is helpful for me to hear other people’s experiences.

    I liked what you said about parents just being people. And thank you for the reminder about moving forward and enjoying life, I get stuck analyzing all of these things sometimes. 🙂

    #106981
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Janine:

    I have no doubt you have been and are abused. Children who are abused don’t believe it, not as children and not as adults. As children we believe everything the parent says, so when your mother says she did things out of love, you believe her, only deep inside you don’t feel loved, you feel she took you to doctors not out of love for you but to show herself as a victim. You live in cognitive conflict: knowing and not believing what you know- this is the torture of being abused by parents.

    And the word Abuse, sounds like it would fit the stories you read about, starving children in the basement, hit with belts, broken bones… and you look at yourself, why you have all those clothes and toys and fancy food, how can YOU be abused?

    I knew right from the beginning of your thread that you were abused because the injuries of the abuse you suffer are evident. I can see your injuries. It is like I see you bleeding, so I don’t have to have a video of you being stabbed. The bleeding is proof. In other words, the results of the abuse done to you are evident.

    I was abused too, severely and it took me more than five years after my first serious therapy and three years of having no contact with my mother, to believe that indeed I was abused.

    Bed time for me, almost. Please write more. I will come back to your thread tomorrow morning my time (W.USA) and re-read your post above and any you might write next and write to you more then.

    Good night, take care…

    anita

    #106990
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Janine:

    It may be your 18 birthday today, one of these very days you have turned or are just about to turn 18. I have a gift for you. My gift for you, in potential, can save you decades of life with much distress. It is the following: part of you and a whole lots and lots of people want to deny the reality that is painful to see as is. This denial may feel pretty good at times, postpone unwanted pain for a little while, but pain there will be until reality is confronted and injuries healed.

    People (and part of you) will tell you, again and again: you, Janine were not abused, not mistreated, no way! Your mother (and father) had the best intentions for you. They did their best. They are only humans. They make mistakes. No one is mistake-free. So forgive them and move on. Be happy! After all, you have lots of reasons to be happy: you are young, you have all the material things you need, you can have any kind of life that you want.

    I am taking on correcting these messages for you right now:
    1. First about being abused: in my experience, abuse is very common and is not limited to physical abuse, or blood and gore/ starvation abuse. At least half of all children are abused, at the very least. And most of the children abused- through adulthood- don’t fully believe it. But if you check the numbers of how many people are under psychiatric care for anxiety and depression alone, the numbers are staggering. I don’t want you to be in that statistic.
    2. If you are coming out of your childhood, now 18, as a mentally healthy individual, feeling love for your mother, no anger (other than temporary and resolved incidents); if you feel safe enough to get out into the world as an adult, then your parents were good enough. Then it would be true to say that they made mistakes. As is true, all people make mistakes. But if you come out of your childhood feeling unloved, scared, “afraid to be me” as your title indicated; troubled, then your parents were not good enough and their “mistakes” with you are expressions and acts of cruelty against you, lack of empathy, seeing you hurt and continuing to hurt you, never trying to change their behavior so to help you. This is cruelty, abuse, not mistakes.
    3. Once you are significantly injured in childhood, as you have been, you can’t just move on, not before you heal. There is healing work to be done. I highly recommend you attending psychotherapy with a competent, caring, hard working psychotherapist that will be on your side, take on your self interest (not your parents’). You wrote that your parents are well off, well, they can pay for such therapy for you, but without being involved in it, just you one on one with the therapist.

    Here are my evidence that you were abused, all quotes from your original post: “Over my lifetime, I have collected a lot of unconscious anger towards my mother, which has eaten away at me. I do not feel love for my mother and cannot recall ever feeling secure around her…Being around her makes me tense and fearful…I feel no interest in receiving her love or being in any form of relationship with her…Underneath my anger there is a core feeling of emptiness. Trying to interact with her leaves me feeling extremely defensive…instantly I feel attacked by her, and then I go into fight mode. The dynamic gets complicated when my dad enters the picture .. he starts doing all he can to hurt my feelings…So she grabbed both of my arms and started yanking me towards the stairs. And then my dad joined her.”

    You asked a question in your original post: “Why would a child reject a source of unconditional love, if it is truly a warm embrace?” My answer is: you didn’t reject a source of unconditional love. You didn’t reject any kind of love. A child does not reject love- it is impossible. A child rejects abuse. You were not loved; you were attacked and that is why you are defensive, why you are ready to fight- you fight an attacker, not a lover.

    Please take my post here for you, this whole thread if you want to print it, and take it to a competent therapist and start working on healing from the abuse you suffered as a victim, abuse by both parents.

    Please do not accommodate your own denial and the denial others will so generously hand to you. See reality for what it is- through therapy and heal. Post anytime.

    Make your birthday special with this resolution, and so Happy Birthday!

    anita

    #107037
    Janine
    Participant

    anita,

    I do currently go to a therapist who is aware of my experience.. She was the first person to point out the abuse to me. I will take your advice and print this out. Last night and this morning while re-reading your responses, a few questions arose..

    Which are:

    What is the importance of going through the healing process? What are the consequences if you do not go through it? I feel like many of the people who were abused go on living seemingly unaware of it.. What happens then?

    I feel sometimes I cannot access my pain. Intellectualizing it and talking about it has become a method for me to avoid feeling it. What does the healing process look like?

    Thanks again.

    #107039
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Janine:

    I am so glad you are seeing a therapist who did point out to you that you were indeed, abused.

    As to your questions:

    1. “What is the importance of going through the healing process?” The importance is to have a good quality of life in the present and in the future, improved over time, finding your life meaningful, interesting, satisfying, looking forward to the next day; being able to make good choices for yourself, from who you interact with to what profession to choose, where to live, to how to take care of yourself when you are distressed, how to not automatically react to distress, etc. engage in and enjoy healthy win-win interactions and relationships, love and being loved in return. And if you choose to bring children into the world, bringing up healthy children.

    2. “What are the consequences if you do not go through it?” Hundreds of mental disorders such as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, psychosis, anorexia, binge eating, many anxiety disorders, mood disorders, personality disorders; obesity, suicide, violence, crime, child abuse, bullying, drug abuse, alcoholism, many syndromes, such as some of the chronic fatigue syndromes cases, and many, many physical illnesses ending in dysfunction, handicap and earlier death, increased accidents due to destructive behavior such as drinking and driving, lack of attention caused accidents, and more. And there is that situation where no matter what you do, how hard you try, and following short periods of time of feeling better, you…always find yourself back in pain. Again and again.

    3. You wrote: ” I feel like many of the people who were abused go on living seemingly unaware of it.. What happens then?” The thing is, when we are not aware of the truth, or when we are only a little aware of the truth (like you are- you are aware of your abuse intellectually but you are not aware of it emotionally), what happens is the truth of your injuries is not going away just because we are not aware. Oh, no. The pain of the injuries will keep hurting you until you hear it, see it, become emotionally and intellectually aware of it and then tend to it. You will hear people in denial all the time. I was and you are. Truth will not accommodate denial. You will see people who were abused who seem to have it together but if that is so, it is only for a short time.

    I assure you, if you don’t heal, you will have breaks from misery, you will have periods of time of feeling good, but they will not last. The misery you already experienced in your young life- that misery will come back. It is not going anywhere until you heal.

    4. You wrote: “I feel sometimes I cannot access my pain. Intellectualizing it and talking about it has become a method for me to avoid feeling it.” I did that too, of course. What happens is when you are a child so dependent and so loving of the people who are actively hurting you, keeping in awareness that you are in danger of being hurt day in and day out, is too much to bear. So you split your emotions, you dissociate. The brain does its best to not be overwhelmed by not being emotionally aware of what is going on. It doesn’t do a perfect job as you are still miserable, just not as badly as if you were completely aware. So you grow up dissociated.

    5. “What does the healing process look like?” For one thing, a process of re-integration takes place, integrating the dissociated emotions to the intellect. Now you know what happened in a dry intellectual way. When healing you will know what happened in a … wet (as in crying and sweating) way, you will know what happened as your heart races and you feel like vomiting and you feel dizzy… this is why it should be done in therapy with a competent, caring therapist. She/ he has to be there with you as you get to know emotionally what happened, as you put the emotions together with the intellect.

    You will grow empathy toward yourself. You will find out that you were a victim, that you are not guilty. You will discover- emotionally- that you loved your mother completely and that it was her who rejected you, not the other way around. You will find out how hurt you were. You will come back to yourself.

    This healing process will take time, I would say a couple of years, a wild guess on my part. I mean a couple of years of therapy. Wild guess, again. But the process will continue for a long time after. There is no happily-ever-after existence “after” healing; there is no second childhood- that is lost forever. You wake up to reality and it is like earthquakes in the brain, every time you find out something new, so different than what you thought before. You apply relaxation and calming techniques so to withstand, endure the distress of changing core beliefs about who you are, who your parents are, and what life is about. You let the changes settle and you continue, day in and day out, persistent.

    I started this process at 51. I did only (!) two years of therapy and three years of full time work myself, using the insight and most important the skills I learned in therapy.

    I can tell you more, but enough for now. We can communicate further, if you’d like, for as long as you wish. I am willing to share more as long as it may be helpful. The thing is, this kind of work, healing, is highly personal. You have to FEEL it, to integrate your emotional side with the intellectual side… and that cannot be done intellectually. That is why few people are persistent in this kind of work. No one wants to feel pain, so they drop out.

    Post anytime.

    anita

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