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December 9, 2013 at 8:35 am #46465AndrewParticipant
OK, i made the call to the suicide prevention lifeline. Eighteen minute wait time, glad I was not suicidal. The problem is all their solutions require resources and she has none. They require her to voluntarily go to get help. That wont be happening unless she is at the point of desperation and unless I am not around she is not at that place. I have been her resource,. If it comes down to it I can continue to pay to get her help but, again I am not breaking things off by doing that. I am continuing to enable her. They provided numbers and gave me some numbers locally that I can contact all of which are treatment facilities. I have called and spoken to them and basically I need to take her in physically if she is to the point of taking her life. That will be hard to accomplish. They also advised if I feel she is going to kill herself I can call the police and get a mental health warrant possibly.. The police are telling me it is not illegal to commit suicide in this state. So, I have that information to use when needed. . Hopefully the police will take her to a place that will keep her from harm. I also talked to her psychiatrist who prescribes her meds and her therapist all of which I have been providing for her in an effort to keep her off the ledge and functional. It is a house of cards. She is expecting me to come meet with her and I will be right back in the middle of it all again. I have been able to prevent her from being on the ledge for the last several days but, I cannot keep the balls in the air much longer. I am coming to the end of this. I do not want to continue to have to support her and I do not want to have be in the relationship any longer I wanted to explain to them the situation hoping someone can give me a solution The reality is there really is no easy way out of this.
December 7, 2013 at 6:30 am #46360AndrewParticipantAmy, I appreciate your advice. I know helping her out does only give her hope and therein lies the biggest part of the problem for me. Help me understand how “cutting all ties” will be the best thing I could do for her? That is the part I can’t receive. I hate to see a person in a state of hopelessness. I don’t think she wants to harm herself, but she will. I am sure that is what will happen. She is deadly serious about taking her life. The problem is she has no money, no job, no family that cares and without assistance, she is indeed in a very bad situation. I have been the life jacket. So whenever I start to disengage she begins to spiral fast and gets to the place again that ending her life is her answer. This month again I paid her rent and all her bills and gave her spending money to go to Florida and now she will be coming back early because I am not going there and I am not calling her. She is upset and starting to talk about ending it all again already. I know now all the calls will start again, again the downward spiral will begin. I do really care for her and I want no harm for her. But I can’t feel the way she wants me to feel. I feel like she sees no choice without me to help her and frankly she is probably right, unless she meets someone else willing to take care of her. She has been wanting me to marry her since we first met and and I have been resisting that for so long. I did not know what I was getting into. I have drama that seems to never stop with all this. I have my daughter going away to a retreat facility for depression and bipolar this week as she has never really been able to get it together since my divorce about 4 years ago,. My ex continues to struggle with alcohol and is not able to cope or really help with our children, nor has she since I took custody after the divorce. A son who has been drug free for over a year after a battle with drug use thankfully. But, I feel like I can’t have a life or move on with a life until my children are on their own, which they should be already , but that is not the reality. My daughter has become obsessed with making sure I am not involved with this woman. Her motives pure or not only serve to complicate the fact that being with her would only serve to make things even more difficult. I want to help her out, but do not want to be in a relationship I have been doing that for a long time now. She will be in a hopeless state unless I am with her. So do I pack up all her belongings from the house I am renting for her and kick her out into the street and say good luck it has been fun! Wish you the best! I know full well she has no real options and no resources and no one to really help her but me. I do not want to be that one , but I am. So I have to reconcile the fact that without me to help she does not wish to live and she will end it all. I am haunted with the image of living with her death because I did not care enough. Very difficult situation to resolve.
December 6, 2013 at 5:12 am #46301AndrewParticipantFor the present moment and the next few days I have been able to get her out of state to a place of safety. I know when this week is over and I attempt move to forward yet again with the thing I have to do she will again go to that place of despair and become suicidal again. I caved yet again because of the relentless calls and texts and pleading and promises of certain suicide. So, I sent her for some help and got her meds reviewed and propped her up , give her money and a vacation and start it all over again. She will not accept the fact that I am not at the place she is in life or in this relationship. She is delusional and convinced we will be together.
I really appreciate the comments and the advice. Joanna you are absolutely right. It is the facts I need to hear. I do need strength to do what I have to do. I hate to see her suffer, but I have to move forward some how. I have my daughter also getting some help as well for her depression and because the two of them are such opposing forces it has given me a little respite from the constant stress and meltdowns I have between the two of them. I am going to find a way to make peace in my life and I must maske changes to do so. Change is needed. Change is required.December 3, 2013 at 4:31 am #46126AndrewParticipantHend,
Thank you for your comments you made some good points, they really struck a cord with me and I have and will consider, pray and meditate on them more to gain strength based on the the insight they have provided. Perhaps I will never be able to have peace if I contribute to her taking her own life. I have to consider what I need to do to come to peace with that idea or if I ever can come to peace with that.. Either I stay with her for her or accept the fact that if I don’t she will take her own life. I once again caved in to the emotional pressure and the constant calls and pleading to reengage partially for fear of her sincere threats of death. I know she was going to end it all this weekend after her other attempts at suicide earlier in the week. I felt the agony in my spirit growing as the feeling of her death became real and I just had to reach out to her to again and fall back into prevention mode. It is not what I want but I just cannot reconcile her death. Her path to happiness is in her mind only through me. I cannot get her to look beyond me to anything else and it is indeed because I have been her provider and her caretaker. But in her mind she has no way to make it on her own and the fact is she is probably right. She is in a desperate way without me paying out and caring for her. My heart is in it from the stand point that my empathy is great but my feelings are of pity and care not from a standpoint of a healthy relationship kind of love. All I will ever be is a caretaker. Selfishly, I resent that and I feel guilty for feeling that way. But, she does not do what she needs to to be better and that is not attractive to me. Not so much in a physical sense but from a sense that I value. Things like maintaining a drug free life style, which can never be because of her mental health issues and I get that she needs them, but I still don’t find that a good thing. I just do not think I can ever fulfill my hopes and desires with her for a relationship. But then my self doubt sets in and I think I need to serve, not be served and perhaps I am just asking to much. I need clarity.December 1, 2013 at 6:32 am #46021AndrewParticipantSo far she is still alive. I have been able to be involved to the extent that I helped her get through the past few days and her severe meltdowns,anguish and suicidal attempts/desires that she has had. I have tried to continue moving forward, albeit very slowly continuing to let her know my priorities and my absolute need for change but at the same time trying to give her hope. I cancelled my credit card I let her use because she said she was going to buy a gun. Apparently ,she tried but there is a waiting period. I don’t know if she can come to a place to realize I am not her answer or her solution to peace and happiness. My prayers have been answered that she for now is of the cliff. But, she is so wrapped up in this whole me or nothing matters mentality if I am not talking to her she starts going to that cliff again. She has called me like a hundred times the last three days most of the time drugged up and almost incoherent. I talked to her step mom and she has no real empathy for her to really sincerely comfort or help her. The fact is she has been in a bad place. She tried to overdose by taking all her Xanax and slept for like 16 hours. She did not know what day it was. I feared she had overdosed since the constant calling stopped. I was relieved that it did, but had a terrible sense of fear at the same time thinking she had taken her life. I had someone go make sure she was still alive. I gave her friend money for food get her dogs fed and food purchased. I was told she also sat in the garage with the engine on while texting me to take care of her dogs and not to come to her service. When she had the gun idea she texted me an apology for the mess it would make but that the coroner would clean it up. It is very touch and go with her right now. I am trying to be available enough so she does not do something to herself but hoping I can slowly get her to another place. A place were she is at least safe so she has a foot hold. She sent me an long email all about ending it all and I just tried to point her to positive thoughts and future hope which mad her mad but maybe that is good if she gets to a point of anger it is better than despair. Prayers are needed! Need to keep her safe, but stay strong.
November 24, 2013 at 5:31 am #45705AndrewParticipantYou are setting yourself up for a life of misery, hurt and disappointment if you do not get out of this relationship. Immediately accept the fact that this man is not good for you. Accept the fact that you deserve better and should never accept being in an abusive relationship. Value yourself enough to find the strength and the smarts to start a plan to move on.
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