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  • #284149
    Lulu
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    Hi Anita.

    Thankyou for your response & wise words.

    I have worked hard to improve myself over the years & went for counselling in my late 20’s to help me deal with issues, I realized that I needed to deal with things for myself & anyone who I might be in future relationship with, and I did not want to turn into my angry Dad. I still use breathing techniques & yoga exercise, which helps to keep me calm & more mindful of my behaviour. Most people that know me well, would say that I am now a very patient & calm person & have noticed the positive changes in me over the years. I am more calm than my partner is now. I have been menopausal the last 3 or 4 years & find I am needing to practice my breathing etc more often, but I am aware of this & realise this is quite normal with big hormonal changes etc. But I feel I have a good handle on it.

    I agree with you, although I find the silent treatment a bit frustrating & not very nice, it is much better than being on the receiving end of overt anger. I have tended to use the time positively where I can, taking long walks, bubble baths, being present, eating well & generally being kind to myself.

    You have really helped Anita. A lot of what you have said, has confirmed some of the things I have been thinking myself. Although sometimes when I am upset, scared of what the future holds without my partner, I have found it difficult to see things clearly. I like your suggestion of giving 3 days to have an honest conversation with each other. I will suggest this when I see him tonight & arrange to do this with him hopefully by the end of this week.

    Thankyou so much for your time Anita. I really appreciate it.

    Best wishes & love,

    Lulu. xx

     

    #284015
    Lulu
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    Hi Mark,

    When I say commitment, I mean Time, as in quality time, doing more things together. At the moment he spends all of his time doing things separate from me. I am also a person that likes my own space, but I would also like to do some things together, this is normal in a relationship. If you do everything separate there is no point in being together.

    When I say shut down, I mean silent treatment for days or weeks. Ignoring me, staying in the other room when he comes home. I very rarely go to him for emotional support, I usually do tend to talk to my Mum or close friends, because he is not good at giving emotional support.

    #284013
    Lulu
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    Hi Mark,

    Thankyou for your reply. It is very honest & to the point. I appreciate that.

    I tried to talk to him again last night, very calmly. I do not wish to be living with someone who is happy to ignore me for 3/4 weeks at a time. This is not good for my emotional well being. I said that I did not wish to argue with him & would like to know how he feels about the current state of things in our relationship. I told him how I feel. He said he doesn’t know how he feels, then proceeded again to tell me how I feel & think. Very frustrating. He also said “You already decided you were doing your own thing”. I think he is annoyed that I went to visit my Mum last week without telling him. Although he spends the vast majority of his free time doing what he wants without me.

    You are right. I don’t believe he will change. So a will or commitment will not make any difference to us at this point. He refuses to discuss anything that he believes isn’t going to work for him. I have been thinking it may be better me walking away from this. From his lack of wanting to meet me halfway or discuss anything it seems like he might be pushing for this, but he would not walk away, it seems he has more care for our apartment than he does for me at the moment.

    Thankyou for your take on things Mark.

    #283975
    Lulu
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    Hi Anita.

    I have been reading through your replies again & I would agree that I probably needed a certain level of distance, hence why my partner was the right fit for me in so many ways. I do find that when people tend to get too much with me too quickly or become overly friendly, it does make me want to run in the opposite direction.

    #283971
    Lulu
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    … How do I talk to my partner to resolve any issues if he just shuts down? I am a very open & honest person & if I feel something is not right, I say so. I am conscious that I need to use a calm approach with my partner, but it is very difficult to improve on things if the other person is unwilling to participate. He accuses me of being confrontational, when I am very calm in my approach, or tells me what I am thinking. Ie..”You’re only doing this because of xyz”. He or no-one else knows what I am thinking or feeling.

    #283967
    Lulu
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    Hi Anita.

    Sorry for the delay. I was having a chat with my Mum on the telephone 😉

    Yes I agree that “The silent treatment is very quiet, you can’t hear it, but you can definitely feel it.” Maybe this is how his Dad reacted & he has learned to react in the same way. I don’t know why, but never really thought about this before. Maybe just because his Dad comes across as very chilled & layed back. I would say my partner is very similar personality to his Dad & he has learned the silent treatment to avoid conflict, discussion about things he doesn’t wish to talk about.

    My Dad expressed his temper by completely blowing his top. Shouting, screaming in your face, very threatening, red face & sometimes physically violent. I left home at 17 years old, and spent a lot of time terrified he would hurt my Mum & middle brother. I was the only one that ever really stood up to him. I would tell him he was a bully & that his behavior was disgusting. He would fly off the handle very easily, even if someone said something that he disagreed with or didn’t like, or felt like things were out of his control. He would even say things to provoke, like he wanted an argument. I have been on the receiving end a few times as an adult when I have visited. But have made clear that I will not tolerate this behavior towards myself or other members of my family. He seems to listen when I stand up to him, but it can be extremely stressful & I have threatened to involve the police unless he can control himself. He is a lot calmer since he is older. I have had many sleepless nights worrying about my Mum after I have left.

    #283947
    Lulu
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    … I would also like to add that I am aware I do have a fiery side to my nature, usually comes out of frustration. Although I have been working on better ways to respond for many years, since my early 20’s. I am now a much calmer person & very rarely respond in this way. I hated being on the receiving end of this as a child/ teenager and I don’t wish anyone to be on the receiving end from myself. I understood that it was learned behavior & that I needed to make conscious efforts to change this. Which I believe I have.

    #283941
    Lulu
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Thankyou for you reply.

    Yes, I met him when I was 21/22 years old & living together 26 years. Yes about 3 years ago his family ( 2 sisters & Dad) started contact with his son again, after 30 years or so. They all kept this secret from me, until his sister slipped to me during a telephone conversation. I said that I was very happy for them & that I felt it would also be a good thing for my partner to reconnect with his son. Although he has decided against it to date, as far as I know. I think it has more to do with his ex partner (mother of son) as she was angry with him & said she knew where we lived & wanted to turn up on our doorstep. This started me worrying more about our living arrangements & what could happen in the future.

    I agree I have been feeling very lonely & since my Mum has been ill, I have been in need of more emotional support. She lives the other end of the country. I go every couple of months to visit her & talk to her every other day on the telephone. I have one brother who lives just 15 minutes away. But he has been a constant drain on my energy for the past 20 years since he moved here. He was a heroin addict & has been an alcoholic for decades. I would have cut him off many years ago, but he has a son, my nephew, who is now 16 and was adopted. He was born addicted & went into foster care as a baby. His mother committed suicide. I wanted to adopt my nephew (my partner was dead against). In hindsight it was much better for my nephew to be away from my brother, he lived to close & would have had a very negative impact on my nephew’s life. All this was taken into account at the time. I visited him very regular for the 4 years he spent in foster care, he was adopted at 4 years old. I went to court to keep contact with him & the court granted me 4 times a year visits, after a three year fight & many appeals. I couldn’t afford a family law solicitor & was told I would lose all contact, but I went to the court & represented myself & my Mum. Problem is my brother shares 2 of these visits with myself & my Mum (when she was well). I did request that my visits were kept separate from my brother, as I was worried that he would jeopardise the contact. But adoptive Mum found it too difficult to travel that often for the visits, which I do understand. My brother is now under threat to lose his contact, because of innapropriate behavior & turning up drunk. He has made no effort to improve his situation & just thinks of himself.

    I met both my partners parents. His Mum passed away a few years ago. I know she worked a lot & his Dad is extremely calm & chilled out personality. I never heard an argument in their house. I often said they were like the Walton’s. He has never mentioned any conflict in his home as a child.

    My Mum is the most amazing lady, not demanding. Very laid back, encouraged me to follow whichever path I choose. My Dad on the other hand could be very controlling (didn’t work on me) had a bad temper & was pretty distant with myself & my 2 brothers. My middle brother lives near to my parents in a care home. He got very ill as a teenager & was diagnosed schizophrenic. He spent more than 20 years in a phsyciatric hospital. My Mum fought for years to get him out of there, & found a place for him in a lovely care home about 5/6 years ago, where he is now flourishing & has made great improvements. Even with his illness he is a lovely person & much nicer to be around than my addict brother.

    I hope some of this info helps. Thankyou so much Anita.

    #283923
    Lulu
    Participant

    … I would also say that we are spending less & less time together, which doesn’t help. He is very often home very late from work. Does not let me know till last minute most of the time. He has a very busy job, which I have always been supportive of. Although when he is not at work, he fills his time by going for drinks after work, every weekend doing his own thing, travelling to football matches, friends, meetings, community work. He makes no time for our relationship anymore.

    #283921
    Lulu
    Participant

    Hi Mark. Thankyou for your response.

    I have always been bothered to an extent. The first few years he was very attentive, but not clingy. I am not a person that needs to be showered in attention, but I do need the basics. Every so often I have said that I am feeling unwanted/ ignored. He then says he understands how I feel, and he will try harder. He does for a while, then things go back to usual. His actions do not match his words a lot of the time.

    More commitment I mean a civil partnership, or marriage. I would be happy with us making wills, if he is not up for that level of commitment. He tells me he is organizing it about 2 or 3 years ago. Then nothing happens. We have lived together all this time & I feel I have no security. Although I have paid half the mortgage. He has a son from before we met, who he has never kept in contact with. I have tried to encourage him to make contact over the years. He shuts down again & refuses to talk.

    I have always wanted more commitment, he hasn’t. We are now both getting older and for me it is becoming an issue. If anything were to happen to him, half of my home would have to go to his son and I would have to sell up and move. It has also been on my mind more since my Mum has been ill, it made me maybe evaluate things more. I would have also liked to make sure that he is ok (safe in his home) if something happens to me.

    I really do love him with all my heart. I just do not feel like my needs are being met anymore.

    Thankyou for your input Mark.

     

    #283839
    Lulu
    Participant

    Hi Anita. Thankyou for your reply.

    It wasn’t a falling out to begin with. He left for work without saying goodbye (he would usually kiss my head, even if I was asleep). When he got home, I asked him why he didn’t say goodbye, acknowledge me in the morning (I was up & about), he said he didn’t have time. It then turned into a falling out, as he doesn’t like discussing relationship issues. I told him that even when I am in a rush, there is always a few seconds to say goodbye. I wasn’t confrontational & was calm when I spoke to him in the evening. He got very irate, told me I was shouting (I wasn’t) & that I was crazy. He uses the silent treatment to avoid discussing any problems we may be having and has been very emotionally distant from me for some time. After a few days of silent treatment from him. I suggested calmly that we owe it to each other to have a conversation about things. So we sat together for a couple of hours. He suggested that we talk about general stuff, rather than our relationship, to avoid an argument. I chatted about my week, my visit with my nephew, work, my time spent with my brother. He half listened, which is normal for him. I can tell because 10 mins later he questions me about something I have already told him. He often isn’t fully present. But no return conversation about his week & what he has been doing. I have to almost squeeze the information from him. He is always very vague about what he has been doing. I said that I felt the conversation was very one way & I didn’t want to share everything with him, if he is not happy to share with me. This made him very agitated again. Since then 3 more weeks of silent treatment & I have slept in the other room.

    I’m sure he did assume that I had gone to visit family & friends for a few days. Although it does ring alarm bells that he didn’t know for sure & didn’t seem at all bothered. I arrived home last night & he looked almost shocked to see me.

    I really appreciate your time & look forward to your response Anita.

    Best wishes, Lulu.

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