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tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi All,
As I read some of these posts, I canāt help but want to share what ended up working for me in getting out of my toxic relationship.
The final straw for me came when we both went to a therapist together, and he became verbally abusive IN therapy. The therapist finally asked me, āWhat do you really feel youāre getting from this relationship? What value is he actually adding to your life? How is he actually making your life better?ā The answers were that I was getting nothing, he wasnāt adding value and he wasnāt making my life better.
After I finally left the relationship, I spent time working on healing myself. I continued to see a therapist on my own. I read more books than I can recall. I nourished my friendships and my relationship with my family. I focused on me and the things that mattered to me. I wrote positive words of affirmations to remind myself the important things my toxic partner tried to deplete my mind of. I made a vision board of what I really wanted in a partner and I got REALLY specific about it. I wrote a letter to myself a year out, thinking about all of the things I wanted to accomplish in the year.
I am happy to say that Iāve spent almost two years now in a happy, healthy relationship with a man I love more than Iāve ever loved anyone. He treats me with respect. He communicated effectively. He supports me. He never brings me down. We are so deeply connected and we are true equals. We have a deep passion and shared interests and work together to keep our relationship strong and healthy. He is everything that I wanted and needed in a partner.
When I looked at both my vision board and my letter- everything I wanted on the board and in the letter, I had found in him.
Hereās some of the things I did/read that really helped. I hope it helps all of you who need it, too:
-CUT OFF ALL CONTACT and DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT respond or reach out anymore. The only person you hurt is you.
-Read the book, āAttachedā. I learned a lot about attachment styles and attachment theory. Many of us who end up in emotionally abusive relationships have an attachment style called, āPreoccupied/Anxiousā and are usually drawn to another attachment style called, āAvoidantā. In many cases, narcissists are avoidants. This kind of person you must stay far away from. They donāt change. Repeat after me: THEY DO NOT CHANGE.
-Research a therapy called, āEMDRā. Itās a highly intensive therapy designed for victims of trauma. Do not for a second think that being in an emotionally abusive relationship isnāt a trauma. Plus, chances are, thereās a lingering trauma you may not have dealt with that lead you down the path of being in a relationship like this. Look into EMDR, find a therapist and if you canāt afford one, read the books on EMDR.
-Spend time along thinking about the life you want. Donāt hold back. Donāt be afraid to desire greatness for yourself.
-Thereās another book called, āYou Are a Bad Assā. I didnāt read this at the time, but Iāve read it since and I recommend it for everyone, in general.
-Learn to love yourself. Going back to these awful people, is not loving yourself. Staying away and getting healthy IS.
Good luck!
xoxo
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi Jules11ā
Iām glad this post helped you find some clarity. Honestly, just writing it and then seeing everyoneās responses really helped me, too. Especially from Enigma.
Itās not an easy road getting out of an emotionally abusive relationship and although we may all be experiencing similar situations, oftentimes, the thing that keeps us going back (the root cause or causes) can be different. What I do know is that itās a cycle that becomes addictive. And it is ultimately up to you to move past the addictive behavior in letting go. You will have days where you feel so strong and so yourself, and you will have days where you MISS THE LIFE out of them. But, you have to remember that what youāre missing, isnāt healthy and if you want a healthy, happy life, then that person doesnāt belong in it.
Even after writing this post and being inspired by the responses, I still went back a couple of times, but each time I felt stronger than the last. The final straw came when he wanted to seek counseling together. I decided that perhaps seeing someone together might either help validate what I was experiencing so I could truly let go, or it could help guide us into a healthy direction. To me it would wind up being a win/win, and it was.
My ex was even emotionally abusive to me IN THERAPY. To the point where the woman had a 1:1 with me and asked me a lot of very blatant questions like, āWhat is it about him that makes you feel happy?ā and āWhat is it that makes you really want to be with this man?ā She looked me right in the eye and said, āHe is verbally abusive to you. Right here in front of me. If he ever wants to change, itās going to be a very long road for him, and before that even happens, he has to want to, and he doesnāt appear to be there.ā After a few years of dealing with this man, of writing a blog post, seeking personal therapy, talking to friends and family, reading booksā thatās what did it for me. The validation of someone who watched it happen before her very own eyes.
I havenāt looked back since then. I will admit I still have love in my heart for him as a human being, but I have no desire to have a future with him anymore. I, too, wonder about him sometimes. I feel bad for him sometimes. But, then I think about how damn happy and full my life is without him and the missing thoughts become fleeting.
With that said, as soon as I felt truly moved on from wanting this man in my life, literally, like clockwork, the most amazing man has entered my life.
Similar to Enigmaās story, except this new relationship is only a few months old.
This man is kind, sensitive, yet confident in who he is as a person. He allows me to be me 110% of the time. He never makes me feel bad or guilty for anything. Heās extremely communicative, loving, patient, altruistic, passionate, romantic. Heās all the things a woman should find in a man. He openly shares his struggles and his flaws and allows me to share mine safely. Heās supportive and balanced. Heās consistent, every single day in his behavior. With my ex, the red flags were present very early on (first month). This man hasnāt given me any reason to believe heās anything like my ex. In fact, heās allowed me to share my experience with him and never once acted jealous. If anything, heās taken on a protective role, but without being invasive, overbearing or possessive. He has proven to me that these amazing men, the kind of men we all deserve to find are out there.
I feel like Iāve found the kind of man I had always hoped would be out there for me, but I am here to tell you- he didnāt come until I was truly moved on from my ex and until I had found love for myself again. It took me being back to a truly authentic self before this man came around.
Work every single day on letting go, and spend your time getting back in touch with the real you that is still in there.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi inthebliss,
It breaks my heart to read your story. Both because no one should have to go thru what youāre going through and because it sounds all too familiar for so many of us who have posted on here.
Hereās one thing I know for sureā this is no longer just about you, this is about you AND your unborn child.
As much as I hope that you stay away from this monster for the betterment of your own life, I especially hope you do so for the sake of your child. You need to be the best mom and person you can be for this baby and thereās no question you canāt be while in any kind of relationship with this man.
Every time you consider going back, think of your baby. Ask yourself, āIs this really the kind of person I want my baby to be raised by? Is this really the example I want to set for this completely innocent little life?ā
You have a lot of control right now to move forward and do the right thing for both you and for your baby.
I say this with all the love that a stranger could haveā please stay away and do whatās best for you and that precious little one.
Sending you positive thoughts and strong arms.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHI E. Buddha,
I like getting your replies. Itās sweet of you to take time to write to some of us who are in the midst of all of this, even though youāre past your situation.
I donāt blame myself for the abuse at all. I know itās not MY fault heās an abusive guy. I do know that in relationships like these, things become a vicious cycle and that as the waters become murky and the abuse goes on longer and longer and anger and resentment build up inside of me, I become reactive and I stoop to a level I donāt like or want to stoop to. I also know that itās hard to control that when youāre in such a messy, complex situation. Making sense out of abuse and the dynamic within abuse is a lost cause.
What I meant by my statement is that, I have always logically known this relationship was wrong. Iāve always logically and consciously known better than to go back. Iāve done a lot of work and a lot of ālifting offā and even thought I had other decisive moments in the past. But, I also think thereās a deeper attachment issue going on for me thatās pulled into the feelings from the abuse.
The one thing I havenāt shared is that I was abused by a family member when I was a little girl. Itās something I spent years and years working on and getting past. I actually had gotten to a really good place with it and thought the baggage was behind me, but being in an abusive relationship only added to both triggers and to an innate pull towards the feelings from the abuse. Itās all very complex, but Iāve become aware of it.
Itās also tricky because my ex uses my past as a crutch for his manipulation. That I do X, Y, Z not because of the abusive dynamic weāre in, no way- itās because I was abused as a child. I try to stay on the side of logic as much as possible, but thereās a very delicate place inside that can get really muddled when you have a guy who is emotionally abusing you, playing into a very insecure place inside. I run from him, rather than ācommunicateā through our issues, because Iām a runner due to my former abuse. Although, ever single time I have tried communicating in a rational manner, go figure- unless I take all the blame, we end up in an hour+ convo where he does most of the talking and blaming and itās all about what Iām doing wrong. Never about him.
Anyway- I know all of this is wrong. Iām done dealing with it with him, and writing it out to you ladies really helps me realize how completely RIDICULOUS the whole thing is.
I, like you, never WANTED or even thought I would wind up in an abusive relationship. Part of why I did so much work to move past my former abuse was to try to avoid being in a relationship like this. But, like you said, men hide the behavior and then it comes up once youāre so hooked and in love with the person you THINK they are. Then you get stuck on this IDEA of who they are and who they ācouldā be and if only they could be that way you hope they would be, the relationship could be wonderful.
I was the same way. It got intolerable after I moved in with him. I moved out within 3mo and never moved back in, but I kept going back to the relationship. Heās always blamed me for being āone foot out of the doorā and because Iām that way, it doesnāt lend itself to being able to work things out. Yet, my stipulation was that if I was to be ātwo feet back inā, he needed to do the work on his end, he needed to take responsibility for his part. Big shocker- never happened, and the issues post- moving out were then all my fault. Thatās when the area became grey and messy. At the end of the day, it was always me taking ownership of things I started to say out of anger. Be taking ownership of my triggered responses to him and how those donāt help us. YUCK.
Okay, okay Iām all over the place here, and at this point in this post, just using it as an outlet to get thoughts out. But, thanks again for your replies. Theyāre insightful.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi Claire-
Couple of thingsā I have written so many letters/texts/emails similar to yours. In the early days they were much more rational, but as time went on they took on a different tone. What I read in yours that I found to be true in mine is that at some point, I was clearly seeking validation from HIM. It was as if I was trying to help him make sense of his monster-like ways and in doing so, maybe I would finally get acknowledgement of the behavior, an apology and have him make some sense out of it. I obviously knew better, but it didnāt stop me from trying.
Ultimately, Kelly is right- we often project our feelings in these reach outs. You probably are trying to project feelings onto him. You probably are seeking validation. You probably are conditionally loving him at this point. Even if all of this is true, thereās another truth hereā GET OUT. STAY OUT. From there you can do whatever work needs to be done on your end, just as E. Buddha has mentioned.
And as far as Match goes. Iāve been dabbling in online dating and all Iāve come to discover is that A.) Iām not ready B.) I seem to only attract unavailable men, likely because I am also emotionally unavailable at the moment. Despite online dating, I still went back to my ex. And guess what? He said if I had dated and at any point been physical with anyone else, then I was, ātaintedā. So, guess who then had to live with lies over completely innocent things, in the back of my mind to avoid further abuse and the fear of being viewed as ātaintedā. I mean, how completely absurd on all levels, from both sides. That I would choose to go back knowing that way of thinking is emotionally unhealthy AND immature.
I think E. Buddha is right that you havenāt hit that decisive moment. You donāt owe anyone anything in regards to that trip. My guess is, youāre going to go on that trip. If you donāt, Iām so proud of you and if you do, I donāt blame you. Getting out of these relationships isnāt easy. You have to decide when enough is enough. Itās all up to you. But, I hope this forum is helping you feel less alone. Itās certainly helping me and every post inspires me more and more to continue staying away from that monster.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi Ainka-
The fact that he feels the need to reach out to you and say ANYTHING to you at all, is proof that this man is still a manipulator. Donāt be fooled by what you see on the outside. To the point E. Buddha made, get yourself away from him where you donāt have to see things in front of you. Move somewhere else if you can. Change your number. Do something different for yourself. A man who could make you feel so low and question yourself, even when he is with another woman is NOT the man for you.
Think of it this way- if this man is so happy with his wife and is such a, āchangedā man, then why would he EVER feel the need to reach out to you at all? Heās doing it, because heās the same old nasty, abusive man he was when he was with you.
Just because he had a child with this woman, doesnāt mean he doesnāt have other ways in which this behavior will come out.
Spend time healing yourself. Spend time loving yourself. Spend time focusing on what you really want so that when that man comes, youāre ready for him.
Good luck.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantHi E. Buddha,
Wow. Iām sitting here sobbing, tears and snot pouring out of me like a broken faucet.
I canāt even begin to tell you how not only impactful your reply is, but also how spot on you are on so many levels. No one has ever been able to compare it and pull out the feelings and emotions so well. Points number 3, 4 and 5 really hit close to home. No one ever stops to consider the fact that there have been positives and good things that keep people in situations like this coming back for more, making excuses for the abuse because there are good things and you minimize the abuse in your mind, because after all- thereās all this other, āgood stuffā. Iām lucky and feel blessed to have friends who havenāt left my side. However, to your point, they hit a breaking point where they were tired of hearing about it and finally starting practicing some ātough loveā on me. Itās taken time to repair some of the damage being with him caused in those friendships, but they are back on track.
The past 3-6 months have been the biggest moments for me in terms of change. We used to work together and I had to see him every day. Needless to say, pretty hard to detach and move forward when that person is in front of you, EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. I had a great job at an amazing company, but it made it impossible to fully move forward, so in December, I left, took the last 3 months off and spent time traveling and focusing on myself. A week before leaving for a trip half way around the world (which was 2 weeks ago), we started speaking again and spent time together, and low and behold- there I was back in it. When I returned, I thought maybe we were going to work things out, but the DAY I returned (this past Saturday) we fell back into another cycle and the abuse started again and I ran away (again), and I think, no.. I KNOW, Iām finally at my #5 of your point.
I spent 3 months empowering myself, feeling happy and carefree again. Nourishing and nurturing friendships and family relationships that had all been bruised and impacted by having this man in my life. I finally thought, āHow the HELL could I give all of this up again for THIS? I DONāT hate myself, so why would I act like I do?ā Iām at a pivotal time right now (I just walked away on Saturday) where I need to do all the hard work to stay the F away from this man.
I threw myself back into therapy immediately. I went and saw an energy healer (which I know sounds a little silly, but a friend recommended it and Iām willing to try anything at this point), and she picked up on EVERYTHING without me even having to utter a word.
Luckily, the energy healer gave me some techniques that are already helping me feel the strength to detach, not just physically, but also emotionally. But, I know this road isnāt going to be an easy one and I also realize thereās some deeper digging I need to do in terms of what drew me to a relationship like this in the first place. Luckily, I have an understanding of where that needs to begin.
Anyway, E. Buddha- to hear that you were in such a similar situation and were still able to find your way to a happy, healthy, respectful relationship and marriage is inspiring and gives me hope. I have so many wonderful people around me who are in very loving, balanced, healthy relationships and all I want is to find that and have that.
I visualize myself in this happy partnership with a solid, kind man, but thereās this place, deep in the back of my mind that plays games with that process. Sometimes I can visualize it and feel it and believe it, and then, every so often this little voice inside says, āBut, you wonāt find it. You are only capable of drawing in the wrong ones.ā I hate that voice and that place and all I want to do is make it go away.
So, I guess thatās where I am todayā at a place where I see the writing on the wall, know what needs to be done and dealt with. Just need to make a promise to myself to stick with it and know that it wonāt be easy and thatās okay, because eventually itāll all be worth it.
Iām so happy you found a great guy. If youāre reading this, when youāre done, go to him, give him the biggest hug ever from all of us who are inspired to know that men like him exist.
Thank you so much for your words and sharing your story. Iām printing this out and keeping it close by to read during the moments when I feel the weakness of his pull tugging at me.
Strange to feel so connected to a stranger after something as simple as a blog forum response.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantWow, I am so, so sorry to hear that. I know that, āIām sorryā doesnāt help the situation youāre in, but I hope it does empower you to know that your story and your advice helps others to avoid falling deeper into a web with someone like this.
Iāve many times in the heat of passion thought maybe if I gave him more security in our relationship by taking things to another level together, that it would help us, but luckily Iāve come to my senses shortly thereafter each time.
Itās scary to think how common this can be for women and what a crazy web it becomes.
While I hate to hear you had to dedicate 14 years of your life to such a terrible situation, Iām glad that youāre able to finally start getting to a place where you can move forward and take care of yourself. I just hope your son is able to steer clear of the emotional baggage your ex carries with him.
Stay strong. I am rooting for you. I am a believer that the more energy you put into the positive things you want out of life, the faster you can get there.
Big, stranger-cyber hug to you.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantClaire- hopefully youāll be able to get some clarity as you seek to escape your situation, too. I felt so empowered the first time I left him, but each time we go back, it chips away at that empowerment. The last time I left, I was out for months and was on top of life and recently caved again. Sometimes it almost feels like an addiction and it makes me ill to think that I could even be that way.
Does your guy make you feel like in your time away, while youāre healing yourself or practicing self-love and self-worth that youāve somehow done something wrong? Iām made to feel that way every time. When I take space and tell him I canāt reconnect until he works on his issues and then he fools me into believing he has, he turns around and makes me feel like Iām a monster for creating space.
As much as I hate to hear someone else is going through a similar situation, itās nice to not feel so alone. Especially as all my good friends move into the next phases of their healthy relationships with engagements, marriages and babiesā¦ such a lonely place to be stuck in.
tinywanderlust
ParticipantThanks for this, Enigma. I had never really thought of him as a, āNarcissistā. Heās not really a materialistic guy or self-consumed in the way youād think a narcissist would be, but he definitely thinks of himself as better than most people and superior in the way he thinks as compared to other and of course the behavior as listed in the second link all line up. However, this is a new way of looking at him and his issues.
The more logic I can help make out of so many illogical moments, the easier it is to start moving forward.
And, youāre right. I know thereās a deep rooted place that needs to be better dealt with on my end that keeps bringing me back to him. Trying to work on that as we speak.
Thanks again!
tinywanderlust
ParticipantI meant I do NOT want to love this man anymore*
tinywanderlust
ParticipantLetting go is so hard. Try hypnosis. I know it might sound crazy, but find a certified hypnotherapist. It really can help move past things.
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