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August 4, 2014 at 2:18 pm in reply to: can someone define love and show how to love myself and others #62619The RuminantParticipant
Trying to be more humble helps when seeking to understand love.
The RuminantParticipantHello Luna,
Whilst exactly that scenario hasn’t happened to me, I can understand how it must feel right now. Cliche or not, it still hurts.
In the past I’ve ended up in situations where I’ve become the shoulder to lean on and a psychiatrist for some men. Always there to understand and listen, but didn’t get the attention I would’ve wanted as a woman. That said, I kind of put myself in those situations and invited such treatment, but that’s another story. In any case, as I allowed that to happen, I let myself know that my needs do not matter that much and that I should always be there for other people. That’s a great source for bitterness in the long run. I felt used, unloved, unwanted… I could’ve changed it all myself.
He telling you that he can not cope without you is kind of emotional blackmail. It is not your job to hold him together. Being supportive doesn’t mean being the only support that holds everything together. Besides, you need support and understanding right now as well. Be straightforward about that. You are a human being and it hurts when we get rejected, no matter what the reason and even if it would’ve been the right action to take. Don’t distance yourself out of revenge, but you might want to distance yourself, at least for a while, to heal your emotional wounds.
It might do good for both of you to be more involved with other people as well for a while. Spread your attention a bit more. Being so involved with someone in such fashion can lead, and seems to have already led, to dependency and obsession. When you spread your attention, you become more balanced and can put things in perspective.
Also, based on my experience, such dependency is a real romance killer, so from that perspective, he is right about it not working as a romantic relationship.
Attend to your needs and remember: nothing is forever. Life is dynamic and things change 🙂
The RuminantParticipantI also must stress that my sister is not married to our brother 🙂
Really depends how people age. If one partner still wants to live an active life and the other one is suffering from arthritis and wants to stay warm, it can be difficult. The difference in development is pretty much the only problem with age in general. Then again, if truly in love and there is a deep connection, would any of it matter that much?
August 3, 2014 at 12:27 pm in reply to: can someone define love and show how to love myself and others #62512The RuminantParticipantRahel,
Forgetfulness is very normal whilst depressed. I know, I’ve been there and seen it in other people. Getting sucked into anger and emotional turmoil is also something that happens to many people. I’ve experienced that as well. What ever the reason for that is, you’re not alone in experiencing that and it is possible to move past it. It’s not easy to change the thought patterns, but it can be done. Like Jasmine said, it took her 6 months to get to one point. It took me around a year or more to get to a certain point. What you are experiencing is to be expected and it takes a while to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
The RuminantParticipantDo you mean that 7 years would make things more difficult after both are past child rearing years? I don’t know what you mean, so I can’t agree 🙂
P.S. My sister is 7 years younger than her husband. She’s 48 and he’s 55. Looking at them, I can’t quite see it as a problem in the future either.
August 3, 2014 at 11:46 am in reply to: can someone define love and show how to love myself and others #62498The RuminantParticipant@katiebunting The site was down for a few hours, so I’m guessing that there was a technical problem when you posted.
August 2, 2014 at 10:34 pm in reply to: can someone define love and show how to love myself and others #62469The RuminantParticipantRahel,
Like Matt said, what you are going through is normal and expected.
Think of it this way: when you were young, you were in an accident and something got damaged, but never fully attended to and healed. Now you are going through rehabilitation. If it was a leg, and you had difficulty walking, would you stop going to the physical therapy after couple of times because the leg wasn’t healing fast enough for you? Would you rather continue limping?
Your belief of being a failure is not based on reality.
The RuminantParticipantI have daddy issues, so I better not speak based on my personal experience 🙂
I’d say about seven years, based on a feeling. It’s not really linear though, is it? When young and when old, the gap should be smaller, but in your thirties, for example, it could be much wider and not be problematic. Then again, having a small gap is no guarantee of anything. People still sometimes get ill or die sooner than expected. Then there’s the issue of having children, which may or may not be a factor regardless.
Realistically though, you’re not going to fall in love based on age 🙂 Though if you do, and you keep falling for significantly younger or significantly older, it might be a good idea to look into “why?” Generally speaking. Not aimed at you Big Blue 🙂
The RuminantParticipantShowing love and compassion towards her heart might be more effective than trying to influence her mind. The mind is influenced with words, whereas the heart is healed with presence and warmth.
The RuminantParticipantI know it’s really easy to comment as an outsider, but somehow it just seems like overcomplicating things that one should try to “find” oneself. I mean, there you are. Not online and not found in some articles. I’m not against reading articles and talking with other people, but you have access to your authentic self every moment of every day. You just need to be honest.
I really don’t mean to be callous. Looking back at my own life, I’ve made things so very difficult myself, when what I should’ve done was to allow myself to have a natural relationship with the world. I overcomplicated everything. Now I find myself trying to simplify and declutter as much as possible so that there is more room left for actually living.
Allowing life to connect directly with your heart as opposed to thinking what you think about life and what you think about yourself.
The RuminantParticipantI saw this just before going to bed last night and pretty much fell asleep imagining what others would look like 🙂 I am really bad at that. I don’t get any kind of strong visions of what someone might look like, and if I do, it’s usually wrong 🙂 I do usually imagine something, but it’s all very vague.
With Inky’s previous name, I imagined her as this cool blonde, of German descent. Curls (but not naturally curly). Now I see her as this rather tall woman, slender constitution. Dark strawberry blonde, the sort of hair that you can’t quite say if she’s a redhead, blonde or a light brunette. Wavy hair, or even a bit curly. A tough, survivalist type. I guess “survivalist” can mean those people who are actively waiting for doomsday, and I don’t mean that in this case 🙂 I don’t know if and when she lets her guard down, but when that happens, I have a feeling that underneath there would be a very delicate and ethereal being; fragile, but still never weak.
Jasmine, to me, is like this compact force of nature 🙂 Like a giggling whirlwind that comes in, does her magic and then goes again somewhere else, where it’s interesting. Dark, straight hair. I also have this certain image that is Asia-Pacific type, but when I focus on the Aussie aspect, it kind of puts everything in different perspective and perhaps even makes more sense to me 🙂 I have experienced Aussies as very direct, but in a different way from us Finns. We’re rather reserved and shy, whereas they are more dynamic, and so even though I appreciate the directness, I am sometimes left slightly shocked and confused by it 🙂 So, dynamic, tropical, playful storm 🙂
I still see Big Blue as a young man in his early thirties, even though I’ve understood from his posts that this could not be possible 🙂 A gentle, shy giant, probably unaware of the potential for having a really commanding presence. It is adorable and perplexes me in the same time. It’s like with those really big, calm dogs that don’t understand that they are so powerful, and they just look at the really small, yapping dogs with both interest and slight fear, seeing them as more powerful than themselves. In reality it’s kind of the other way around. The yapping dogs and people yap because they are scared and they are also probably scared of the gentle giant. So it’s safer to keep the giant believing that he’s not that strong. I can understand that. If Big Blue were to really harness all the power that he has, women would be in trouble 🙂 They would no longer be able to control him, and that is both scary and exciting.
Matt I see as someone in his forties, dark, short hair. Regular height, regular weight. I can’t really imagine anything else, because I see him as so balanced 🙂 Likes good food, but not too much. Exercises, but not too much. When there is a nice flow, it’s hard to grab onto any particular thing. I think the friction happens when the natural warm flow meets the rest of the world 🙂 It’s like he would’ve spent three years in the Himalayas and has come back to the chaotic “real world”. There is both frustration and awe on both sides: we want to have that calm and serenity as well, but are still stuck in the chaos. Matt knows how to access the calm and serenity, and sees the potential and beauty in everything, but isn’t always understood by others who are still stuck in the chaos. He also communicates from his heart, which is healing for those who can accept it and confusing for those who can not.
As for me…wild hair, yes, though I don’t allow it to be like that 🙂 Big eyes, yes, but brown. I like to move swiftly and quietly if possible, and I do like graceful behaviour, but a lot of the time I have the grace (and eating habits) of a hobbit (despite being rather tall). I absolutely do not see myself as enlightened nor can I directly help anyone achieve such a state. I’m not even sure if enlightenment would be my goal. If the world would be a sinking ship and enlightenment would be the salvation, I think I’d be someone who deliberately stays in the lower decks after finding out where some of the exits signs are. So when others are in chaos and don’t know where to go, I can show one or two ways to get them going, or even slap a few faces of people who are too confused to function or are going in circles and don’t even realise it. There are other people on higher levels who can help others on different ways and to possibly reach salvation in the end. I might be going down with the ship in this reincarnation, even though I keep vowing that I’m never coming back again 🙂
The RuminantParticipantActually, nothing is wrong with you. Your mind is working just like it does for most of us. There is a pressure to live up to some standards set by media, that is mostly just looking for readers/viewers.
People are naturally curious about how others live their lives, because we kind of only have access to our own. So we like all kinds of statistics and reality shows and anything that will give us an idea of how other people might live and behave, and then automatically compare it to ourselves. I think we all do it more or less.
As for pressure, sex isn’t the only thing that people feel pressured about (and you really aren’t the only one to feel the pressure). Same goes for looks, hobbies and lifestyle in general. I remember reading an article about an island where people were pretty much OK with everything, but the moment TV was introduced, a majority of the girls started suffering from eating disorders.
We all feel the pressure in various ways and it requires some strength to not care about it and live your life as you please. Treasure your sexuality and don’t let the peer pressure get to you. Only do things that you really want to do, as otherwise you might do more harm than good.
The RuminantParticipant“Floating in space alone” is exactly what it feels like when releasing yourself from entanglement. At least that’s what it felt like to me 🙂 You’ll have to give yourself time to find your own gravity so that you’re not going to keep orbiting around others, your emotions tied to the ebb and flow of particular relationships. First you just need to let go. Even momentarily so that you get the time to build yourself.
The RuminantParticipantI feel like I must stress that I really wasn’t judging you for not telling 🙂 It was just an observation mostly based on the type of words you used (“come clean”) and the explanations. Keeping things hidden for what ever reason can start to weigh on a person over time. It’s not just about keeping things hidden from other people, but yourself as well. If you can be unapologetically yourself, then there’s no room for second guessing anymore about whether or not you should’ve done things differently.
July 29, 2014 at 6:04 am in reply to: can someone define love and show how to love myself and others #62048The RuminantParticipantGood job, Rahel, and thanks Jasmine for the valuable resources.
Judging by what you’ve told us, you’re not bipolar. A person with bipolar disorder goes through cycles of depression and mania. During the manic phase the person’s mood is very elevated and hyper and they do things like leave their job and spend all their money to buy a new car, etc.
No need to overthink everything. Just allow things to progress gradually as you do these small things for yourself and others.
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