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November 7, 2020 at 5:34 am in reply to: Will getting married before finishing residency affect your relationship? #368752KatieParticipant
Hi Lisa,
I’m unclear with your question, but believe you are asking if you get married while in medical school, how would the schedule you’d be undertaking in residency affect your relationship.
My son’s girlfriend, who he intends to marry, is in her second year of her residency program. Their relationship began a few years ago when she was in medical school. There is a lot of stress in the residency program; her hours fluctuate and she can be quite exhausted. During COVID, he’s been living with her in her apartment, as he is finishing up his Master’s degree in grad school but all is remote. They had some difficulty because when she got home and needed time to unwind, which meant going into the bedroom for hours just to read, he was feeling a bit neglected. They talked about this and he understands that she needs the space to decompress.
I think, and I’m not an expert, that as long as you communicate your needs upfront and you know what your partner needs in order to unwind, which may not include togetherness, you can manage a relationship.
And also, there’s the issue of the “matching program” in your last year of medical school. Where you go where you’re “matched”. You need to think about if you are both willing to go to wherever the program sends the medical student.
I hope I helped you a bit. I’m basing this on my son’s relationship with his girlfriend who is in her residency program. Communication is the key, as it is in any relationship.
Best to you,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you. That does sum it up. He and I always thought we came full circle…him knowing way back when that he wanted to be with me, and us ending up together nearing our retirement years. But, I guess full circle has a different meaning now. His anger back then, and his anger now.
And, after all is said and done, I miss him, the him I knew before this last year of judgment.
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
Your insight amazes me. He expressed many times that he did not feel “normal” in high school. Your last paragraph says it all.
He has known for years that I lost my virginity in high school. He would not offer this information about himself to me. It wasn’t important to me so I didn’t press for an answer. I guess he was embarrasses/ashamed. I don’t know.
Knowledge of the dead guy somehow threw gasoline on the fire of the one I lost my virginity to, as this became an issue as well.
I do feel I need to mention that after my divorce I went away on an overnight stay with a man I was seeing, but there was no sex involved. My boyfriend found out about this simply because he and I were planning vacation and he was thinking about staying at the B&B where I stayed with this other man. Me, being honest to a fault, suggested another B&B because I knew due to his jealousy if he found out I stayed with someone else at the inn he and I were staying at, he would want to know why I didn’t tell him. But I guess I should have kept my mouth shut. Just vacationing in that town threw him into a funk. Apparently, I was supposed to be his and his alone. (He has said that before.)
My life was my life. I can’t change it. It made me who I am today. And I guess his life made him who he is today.
Thanks Anita,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
I think he thought I was this pure, innocent child. His first sexual experience was with his wife; mine was in high school. I guess he thought everyone should be like he was. Although on the other hand he will say that he thinks he was “not normal” in high school. He didn’t have the “normal” high school experiences as others. I guess he wanted me to be like him…. no sex until marriage.
But, having sex with 1 guy in high school is not a lot. I was with 1 guy for a couple years in high school. He was my first and of course this doesn’t sit well with my boyfriend either. He actually had my first’s high school picture on his cell phone pics and showed it to me. At first I had to really look to see who it was, then was like what the heck do you have that for? To him it was just a reminder of my first.
Crazy right?
Thanks,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
Yes, he is angry at me because he thinks I am the cause of his suffering. He’s made this known in the past. I have heard in the past “You’ve ruined my happiness.” Meaning, his thoughts are directly because of me. Once he found out about the high school guy, I all of a sudden was not who he thought I was.
I do know that I am the same person he met 6 years ago. I’m not the person from high school. People grow, but I guess he has not. I do also know that he does not appear to be the same person I met 6 years ago. This past year he’s been a Jekyll / Hyde, to the point where I could have spoken with him at lunchtime and then 4 hours later he’s angry at me, because of the thoughts in his head. I was always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Not a great way to live.
But here I am….forever hopeful.
Thank you,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
I realize the relationship wouldn’t be the same; and I wouldn’t want it to be. He would have to be healthy in mind. I would have to trust that he would not, after awhile, pick up where he left off before the break. I don’t want that relationship.
I many times wished for the magic wand. Wow, wouldn’t that be great~
Thank you again,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
Is it realistic to be hopeful?
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
His therapist is bringing him back to catholic school, so hopefully things will progress from there. I’m hoping she deals with his inadequacies from high school and finds the link as to why he is so obsessed with my high school days.
And, you hit the nail on the head, it is like a police interrogation, asking the same question in different ways. I have even said to him “you’ve already asked me this and we’ve talked about it.” And, yes, he does accuse me of lying because my memory is so foggy that sometimes the information I give is incorrect, or I rethink it and say that’s not what happened. Nonetheless, I shouldn’t be on trial for my past, any of it; the good, bad, or ugly.
I don’t respond to any text messages that touch on the past. Our last two communications he did not mention anything of the past, so perhaps that’s progress. (Can you tell I’m holding on for hope?)
Thank you again for your insight. I truly does help.
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you so much for the insight. He is very much in high school, but I never really thought about the comparison of him to others. He would often want to know if he satisfies me sexually, constantly wanting reassurance. I never even thought in his mind he was going back to high school. I can hardly remember high school, and I told him as much. I’m 58!
I do not answer any question about the guy in high school. I really don’t have the answers he’s looking for because my memory is so poor. But, there is no answer that would ever stop the onslaught of questions; no answer that would satisfy him and be done with it.
Again, I hope his therapist is qualified to help him. If not, the relationship will not survive.
Thank you again,
Katie
KatieParticipantDear Anita,
I have told him before that my past is none of his business and is not his to own. I’ve told him at times that he needs to deal with the issues that he has with this high school guy. He has even gone as far as to look up where this guy is buried and wants to go spit on his grave. I know… sounds crazy. His anger directed toward this guy with regard to me should be that this guy hurt me, not that, in his OCD mind, this guy and I had this amazing sexual experience. But regardless, my boyfriend and I did not know eachother so it shouldn’t even matter.
I’m hopeful that he can get his OCD under control. He does have his rituals before he leaves the house…checks the lights, toaster, doors (a few circles around), and will at times get out of the car to make certain he locked the front door. This I’ve known about him. And he does need to get things under control.
I’ve always taken very good care of him. I’ve been kind, considerate, respectful. I believe in talking about issues (here’s where all my therapy comes in to play) and coming to a compromise or solution. He at times, because he is passive aggressive, will shut down….silent treatment. Who knows, this could be learned from his previous marriage, as his ex was a yeller, quite the opposite of me.
Thank you for your insight.
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
It always puzzled me that he had no real issue with my ex. I thought it was because he was dead, but the guy from 40 years ago is also dead. I would tell my boyfriend that I cannot even go back to high school, that my real trauma is my 25 year marriage that I needed to heal from with therapy.
I do agree that his obsession is more of what happened to him with this guy from 40 year ago. Whatever happened between me and the high school guy is irrelevant. I would try to explain that I did not know him (boyfriend) in high school and whatever his issues are with this guy are not related to me. But he created this triangle of the three of us. And the thought of me and this guy having sex is tormenting him. It’s his own made up image. What saddens me is it isn’t what happened but he’s simply sticking to the story or movie that’s in his OCD mind.
I never really thought about the ex wife cheating being projected onto me. That’s interesting.
I do agree that he needs to work on his own issues of his past, not my past. And, that he cannot be the one to try to make me remember what happened to me. Because maybe I don’t want to remember. After all, that was 40 years ago and if I want to pick at the scab, I should be the one to do it, not him.
I hope his therapist is a good one. He definitely does need the help. To have our relationship end over high school stuff when we’re in our late 50’s seems just plain dumb.
Thank you, Katie
- This reply was modified 4 years ago by Katie.
KatieParticipantAlso, in addition to my post above, he and I have been together for almost 6 years.
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
The issues in his previous marriage were that the marriage was arranged, and he didn’t love his ex. His ex was only 18 at the time and turned into a party girl and drinker, which she never grew out of. She cheated on him as well. There was no respect, obviously, and one thing he brought up in therapy was that she smoked in the car which made him feel ill. He asked her to stop but she would not. The therapist told her to stop doing that in the car, but she never did listen. He then decided to have therapy on his own. He didn’t get divorced for religious reasons, but found a loop hole in the bible.
I’ve been in therapy about 10 years because of my marriage. My ex was an abusive alcoholic. I continued therapy after the divorce, and was going occasionally because I believe that mental health checkups are just as important as physical health checkups. Of course now I’m going every 2 weeks because of what is happening in my relationship.
My boyfriend’s jealousy about my past has been over this past year since around last summer. It’s almost as if his OCD ramped up when he thought I was sexually involved in high school with someone he hated in high school (who actually died 20 years ago), but my memory of this person is very cloudy. I believe I was molested/raped by this person and my mind blocked it out. And, it was 40 years ago. But my boyfriend kept prying and memories started coming back that I didn’t want to talk about. But he wanted answers, which I couldn’t give. I can’t even remember how I met the guy that molested me.
When we are together we talk all the time, not just small talk but good conversations and we could talk on the phone for hours (we saw eachother only on weekends because we live 1.5 hours away from eachother). We even have cemetery plots together.
I believe he feels that he wants to talk about my past trauma and has said I can’t sweep it under the rug. But how to talk about something that I don’t remember? And what benefit is it to him? My memory came back as “I think we dated for 3 months maybe” then, “I don’t think we dated.” I can’t remember how I met this guy; I recall bits and pieces of the encounter which makes me uncomfortable. I could have been drugged. I’m not sure. But I want to leave this alone and don’t want to be badgered about it. I think this is the main issue with him about my past, but he really just can’t stand the thought of me with anyone. The only guy he has no issue with is my ex, who died long before my boyfriend and I started our relationship.
I have no issue with his past. I would rather focus on the present and future. I’m so sad about this.
Thanks Anita,
Katie
KatieParticipantHi Anita,
His therapist said that he should not see me for awhile and not contact me too often because he is so angry with me. He never mentioned anything to her about seeing me in therapy with him. I’m not sure how qualified she is. He wanted to see her because he said he felt comfortable with her because he saw her for couples therapy with his ex wife when they were having issues, which ended up as him seeing her by himself. There was no hope with the marriage.
He and I actually texted each other yesterday and he said he trying very hard to not contact me but he misses me terribly. He talked about how he misses our time together, fishing, holding hands, etc. It was a good conversation and was the first time he did not touch on the past. Then in the evening he texted me goodnight.
He can at times get very angry about my past, asking the same questions about relationships over and over, and expecting me to provide more and more info, which I refused to do. It doesn’t make anything better.
Hopefully this therapist will guide him to a good place.
Thank you. Just venting all this helps.
Katie
- This reply was modified 4 years ago by Katie.
KatieParticipantThank you Anita,
My therapist did say that what my boyfriend is experiencing goes back to his childhood. My boyfriend mentioned a trauma from catholic school that he never could talk about. I never pried. But this he says has come up in his therapy. I know he was and has witnessed abuse by the nuns.
He is reluctant to try new drug therapy; he says he has tried other meds in the past and complained of side effects.
I’ll mention to him a visit with his therapist, but he’s not really on board with this. I think she should see me and know who he is talking about. We try not to contact each other too much. His therapist didn’t recommend it because she said he’s too angry with me (hence the verbal abuse)
I’m still hopeful but am exhausted emotionally.
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