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MinaParticipant
Anita,
You wrote that my email was so refreshing and it was a breath of fresh air for you.
Which part of the email that was so “impressive” or “meaningful” to you?
I thought that you had read this email from months ago (A closure after a tough break up thread- in that thread I wrote what he said in general although not in detail as in words per words)
Regardless, I am very happy to read your words below :
“I am definitely inclined to think that he does care for you.”
You have no idea how much this meant to me. No idea how much I needed to hear that, from anyone. My friends in general keeps minimising my pain, saying how he was a very shitty boyfriend so it was a good riddance for me, but they weren’t the one in a relationship. It was really hard to make them understand that after a while, I just stopped explaining and sharing. I do not need them to validate how my ex boyfriend feels about me. I know how he feels and he know about how he feels.
The two of us are enough. We cannot expect anyone to understand because they aren’t us, but the fact that you understand – God, you have no idea how relieve I feel reading your feedback. Thank you, Anita.
-Mina
- This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by Mina.
MinaParticipant[MORE / IMPORTANT UPDATE]
I just re-read his email. I will write the whole conversation here.
Mina : Happy Birthday! I wish you the best for your future plans, to always study well (hopefully in ***
hehe) and make a lot of new friends next year. I hope that everything is well with you & have a great birthday Ex Boyfriend sent me a heart emoticon (he does not do it very often but sending heart emoticon or emoji is often in Korea when you are close to them as friends or boyfriend/girlfriend – in this context, I think it was just him expressing his feelings being touched)
Ex Boyfriend : Thank you!!! Thanks for supporting me even through my whims and even though I was not a good boyfriend to you. I hope you spend the rest of your summer well, and I would like it if you have fun next semester as well!
My mind was being delusional at that time when I read it first. He did not apologised on his email, I just realise that.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
Thank you very much. I needed to hear some of the words you wrote above. It is very comforting me reading this.
Especially this part,
You wrote : “I imagine he still does.”
Every single time I think about ending it all, ending my pain – I think about this. I should live, even if it isn’t for me – then for him. He probably does not know about what is going on but he will want Mina to live. That he at least still care for me as an ex boyfriend or as a friend or as a 1human being – I do not care about the context.
I am fighting a lonely battle with depression but the thought of someone accepting me is very comforting. The thought that at least one person truly understands me. When I think about him and his last email to me, it really does not feel like I am fighting alone anymore.
I would like to explain the meaning of a sentence I wrote yesterday : “I became the person that knows the least about myself.”
For 19 years, I have never tried to understand or listen to myself. I do not know who Mina is without her education, her looks, her boyfriends, her friends and her parents. Those things I have wrote DEFINES me as a person for 19 years. I became accustomed into thinking that without them or those things, Mina does not exist.
I have always been so harsh on myself, saying so many terrible things that I would never say to anyone but I say it to myself most of the time. My ex boyfriend of 4 months knows Mina better than Mina, even you, Anita. A kind stranger from the other side of the world, we never even met but you already knows Mina more than Mina knows about herself.
I never listen to myself, I realise that. I always see the worse in me, when people always try to see the best in me.
That is why a simple break up shook up my entire identity, I had an identity crisis because I never knew who I was in the first place. Mina is always been about being someones boyfriend, someones daughter, someones friend, and someones student. To tell you frankly, I still do not know who Mina is very well. I am trying to get to know myself, taking a break for a bit. Trying to use this time of my “depression” to explore and heal.
To figure out … who is Mina? I also realise that being depressed gives me a lot of space and time to think about myself. My future. I listen more to myself, I try to express myself truthfully and only surround myself with the people that I truly like because pretending is very tiring. I can go to school wearing anything, because I do not care about what anyone says anymore. I do not care If I lose a few “friends” during this period as well.
I am filtering out people. I am filtering out everything in my life that is worth keeping or needs to be thrown away.
Being alone is a comfort to me as well. I realise how I haven’t been alone with myself for a very very long time.
-Mina
MinaParticipant[Sept 20, 2017]
Gyunnie!
Today was a very happy day for me. For a really long time, I feel accepted again.
I went to the Catholic club today and I did not get nervous and I talked more relaxedly – I started to open up to people there and live my life again. It is a small step, but I am at least walking towards something. Maybe a future or a hope that things will get better, even without you.
I talked with the Vietnamese guy today at that Bubble Tea place – I started to see some good things in him. Maybe he isn’t so bad. He told me that he is also very lonely, just like me. He was concerned saying that I must have been so busy last semester since you did not have much time for me. It is true but you were still a good boyfriend, regardless of what you or people says.
I hope that one day – we will be able to meet again as different persons in a different situation. A better one, I hope. So I can sincerely smile and wish you well in your life. To always be happy and grateful.
I also noticed that your songs playlist has been changing, your songs are not as depressing anymore. You listen to a song about how changing the address of where you live does not change you as a person. I am here to tell you that it is true. You are still an amazing person, without our prestige university and without student council – you are still so amazing. Everything might change but you will always be Gyunnie. Always. Do not lose faith.
I hope that you are proud of me, If you somehow gets to read this. I know that you will. Because I did one of the bravest thing in my life after the break up : living again. opening up to new people. making friends.
Your Princess,
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
So to summarise your feedback :
1. My ex boyfriend did or does care about my well being, and it did became one of the reason of the break up BUT the MAIN reason was my ex boyfriend well being, right?
2. He had to ejected me as a girlfriend but he did not rejected me as a person when the break up happened, correct?
You wrote : “..That is all fine in my mind because he represents for you accepting-Mina (the opposite of rejecting), of valuing Mina as a person, and what he represents is real, it really is comforting.”
What do you mean when you wrote that he represent me? You are saying that there 2 different Mina then? The mina that rejected herself vs mina that accepted herself – and the latter identity was represented by my ex since he accepted me as a person?
If so, does it means that right now I am “accepting” myself ONLY because my ex boyfriend told me to? Because the memories and his words to me are so meaningful that I started to believe and accept myself because of it?
You wrote “his legacy” – can you explain about this? Is it the same concept as me honouring me, in a way – by accepting myself?
Please elaborate, If you do not mind 🙂
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
So, he did NOT rejected me but he REMOVED / EJECTED me from his life, correct?
Lost Star wrote : “I do not doubt his love for you as my personal view is that he let you go out of love as he knows that he cannot fulfil your needs and that is why he hopes that you can live your life without him.”
This is how I feel most of the time. I wanted to believe this. Is this just another fantasy of mine or it is indeed the reality?
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
You wrote : “It is your thoughts of him in the present that give you comfort. You shared on your other thread that you go to places that you used to go with him, sitting where you used to sit with him. You do so to feel that comfort that he represents for you.”
Is it .. wrong? When things gets or feels very unbearable for me to handle, I would go to our favourite places and sit for 5-10 minute. I imagine him besides me, supporting me, and accepting me. Telling me how everything is going to be ok again. That I will make it out alive.
Sometimes I would cry, some other days I would just stare at his empty position. and often, I would just sit, think and listen to his favourite songs. Imagining that he is right here with me, nagging about how I prefer Selena Gomez over Ed Sheeran. Talking about our favourite rappers and tv shows that are currently airing. Talking about life. Talking about college. Talking about … anything really.
Even the idea of him comforts me. The idea of imagining that he is here with me gets me through my rough day. I am back to my old bad habits, making decision based on what my ex boyfriend would prefer me to do.
Anyways – did you read what Lost Star have wrote about my ex boyfriend not rejecting me? Do you agree with her or you think that my ex did rejected me because the reasons of the break up was his distress that was caused by me?
I would love insight.
I will explain the whole “I realise how I became the person that knows myself the least” tomorrow, I hope you do not mind, Anita.
-Mina
MinaParticipant[Sept 19, 2017]
Gyunnie,
Today, it was raining very hard in Seoul. I think it might be the last rain of the season before Fall weather starts to kick in.
Are you doing well? Are you eating well there? I hope so 🙂
Suddenly during the lesson today, I remember how you used to do my Korean homework. I got a perfect score on that and you said that I do not have to thank you at all.
By the way – the AC in Political building was broken. It was so freaking hot!! Everyone was saying how they want to move to Business school. I cannot help but feel a sting of pain, I do not think anyone mentioning Business school will be just another word or major to me. It will always be a reminder that you were here.
I promise now that every time someone mention Business school, I would think you came to “visit” me that day.
I miss those moments. I miss you, everyday.
Your ex girlfriend,
-Mina
P.s : That vietnamese guy was totally rejected by his crush. I do not know why I feel happy about it inside. Am I a bad person, Gyun-ah?
MinaParticipantDear Anita,
Thank you so much for your beautiful post. Thank you for always supporting me and being by my side all these time. It has been a very difficult time in my life, the most difficult in 19 years. I am realising a lot of stuff that I have not even talked about to anyone, except for you. I realise how I became the person that knows myself the least.
I do have a lot of hidden emotional pain from my parents. I realise that as well.
Maybe that is why I ended up becoming into a very self conscious person. I cannot grasp the concept that not all people will like or understand me, every time I find someone who does not, I will blame myself and be very sad. My ex boyfriend who knew about this told me his mantra : shake it off.
Not everyone is going to like me, and I have to accept the fact that sometimes I am too nice and too trusting of people that it ended up back firing on me. My ex told me to shake it off and live my life the way that I want to. Because their opinions on me does not really matter – these days, I have been feeling very anxious and depressed that everyone hates me very much but I keep telling myself to just shake it off.
My ex boyfriend`s thinking is indeed very different from mine. He told me not to believe in anyone but myself and do not tell anyone to believe in you, tell them to believe in themselves as well
I miss talking to him. He always know what to say to me, the perfect thing to comfort me. I know that what I am seeking right now is a temporary comfort so I will not reach out to him until I know exactly how I feel. but there isn’t a day that passes by without me thinking about him. My emotions is in a weird position right now
-Mina
MinaParticipantHello Lost Star!
I am very happy to hear from you (again) and thank you so so much for writing such a long and meaningful reply to me. I appreciate it and I do agree that we have a connection just based on our small and short interaction. I am looking forward to talk to you more in the future. It means a lot to me that you are reaching out to me and sharing your amazing insight and story as well.
I will go through what you have written, especially the important part :
You wrote : “But that is not so my dear Mina. His inability to be in a committed relationship at this point in time reflects nothing on your worthiness. He is not rejecting you – he just cannot be in a relationship now.”
I understand this concept. But the thing is, he did rejected me because we broke up NOT because he cannot be in a relationship but because I DROVE him and made him feels very distressed about his life. I used to be the one that would make his days better after a long and tiring day – but after a while – my ex boyfriend realises that me being his girlfriend was not actually helping him but was burdening him.
Even if he isn’t moving college or going to the army – will he still date me? if the answers is no it means that my ex boyfriend did reject me. I have talked about this with Anita a few days ago, you can check. The real reason why my ex broke up with me was because he got very discouraged by me.
It is true that the fact that my ex boyfriend rejected me crushed me very hard. I already have rejection issues starting with my mother but I cannot believe that the person that I love the most in the world is rejecting me as well. I am having a hard time accepting it.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
-Mina
MinaParticipant[MORE]
To give you a background, my mother was an only child.
I was assuming that she lived a happy life because my grandparents were rich but I guess her childhood was not that smooth. I heard a lot of rumours about my grandfather who was a prominent figure in my country had cheated and has several affairs, it was later confirmed by my grandmother – I was very sad to hear that later on.
My mother also had a very rocky relationship with her mother in law (my grandmother) – because my mom was not the usual house wife. She works outside and isn’t the type to cook and work to clean the house. My mother grew up with 20 maids, you can imagine her culture shock coming into the real world. When my grandma died, I think my mother was quite happy as well.
She got married with my father because she got pregnant with me. I secretly found an old diary of hers, during her study in Australia. My father wanted to abort me but my mother said no. I am here because of her, in a sense. For that, I will always be grateful. Maybe there are times when she hate me because of it as well, because I ruined her life.
I personally do not want to marry someone like my father, maybe my mother is thinking about this everyday. I feel so sad for her.
I do not want to hate my mother, Anita. Even If she is indeed rejecting me, imagine how life must have been very difficult for her to act like that towards me.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
I never really explore my relationship with my mother very deeply until I talked to you here.
But now reading your reply – I guess it is true that my mother is rejecting me.
My ex boyfriend was the first important person in my life that accepted me, and the reason why I seek acceptance and love outside my family because I am not accepted there.
That is why I seek marriage very quickly, even at the age of 19 – to accept and feel love. To make my own little family, I would choose someone very different from my father and I will be a different kind of mother to my own kids. I will make sure that I marry someone because of love, and that my partner is the type of person that I can always count on to love me and my kids.
That is why my dreams isn’t to be a successful women, but to be a supporting wife and a good mother to my kids.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
In a serious tone, not really often – only when I embarrass her by refusing to participate in social related things.
The last time was 3 months ago after my break up, I was very mad all the time and was just not in a right place.
She told me that I am “weird” and If she wasn’t my mother, she would never even be friends with me If she is the same age as me, that I am the type of person that people dislike the most, and how I do not have a lot of friends.
That really hurts me when she said that.
I am also very picky when it comes to food, I eat mostly expensive food, and I do not like spicy food and vegetable. She scolded me for this and told me how people are never going to accept me because of this. How in front of me people are going to be nice but actually behind my back – they are bashing me to death. It isn’t true because my friends has always been accepting of my picky taste.
How I always overreact about things that drives people to dislike me.
That is exactly what she told me.
-Mina
MinaParticipantAnita,
What I mean by upset is that she is very disappointed because unlike other kids, I am not very social and outgoing.
My mother has a hard time accepting my introvert personality and she has been quite vocal about it.
If It weren’t for my looks and my brain, maybe I will never have real loyal friends or anything really because I do not know how to build a wide connection with people (according to her)
-Mina
MinaParticipantHello Cherly!
Thanks for stopping by on my little diary. Thank you for the words of encouragement. I need that.
-Mina
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